Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

Brendan Whitecross is an UFA this year

Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

I don't mind Schoenmakers as a 2nd/3rd tall forward. Surely he would like more game time?

Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

What about James Fra... oh, wait.

This thread is a red herring

Does he wear a leatherjacket?

I think Selwood could be a bit of a roughy to end up with us.

David Swallow

surely Swallow is more likely to settle in a swans, eagles, crows, or hawks nest, than to dive on our hell pool ?

I voted Josh Kennedy. Love the way he goes about it.

A couple of weeks back I checked Josh Kennedy's age, & thought that puts him out of our picture;

..... but with our dearth of leaders & lack of real talent in our +27 Yr bracket, I checked again a few days back on his contract status, & started to think the idea of Josh Kennedy from the Swans, could really help us sort out our culture & leadership issues, even if for only 3 or 4 seasons.

I don't think we could do any better to help us get a move along than to do a deal for his services. he is contracted, but the Swans do have salary cap issues, & have so many elite Mids coming through that they have to try to keep happy, & on their books.

maybe, but he's not what i'm herring

wadda you know dc?

There have been a few 'big fish' caught in this thread already.

do carp on wise

I think I'll just open this thread tomorrow and trawl through it then.

there's bound to lots of by-catch, in these broad trawling threads. lets hope JTaylor is environmentally sound when it comes to trawling the AFL c-scape for the best catch.

Andrew gaff.

the eagle's landed him, in 2014, And' put him in the bag, til end of 2016.

Hogan is currently contracted on his current rate for two more seasons.

Doors/Grimes/Watts are all out of contract at the end of 2016. I'm guessing about 1.3 mil will be freed up.

Tmac will get some of that in his new contract.

Young players like Brayshaw/Petracca would be on minimum as 1st/2nd year players.

Jones contract is hopefully front loaded.

Whatever H is getting he's over paid.

Young players who will be guns get their payday about 22-23 - 28. Treloar being a great current example.

Hogan is 20, 22 in 2017, that's when his payday will come.

The club has done its numbers and thinks considering we have a young side we have a window to offer up big $$$$ and shake someone from the tree.

Thinking out loud, we missed on Danger, rather than target the best player at each club what about a second tier like a Steele Sidebottom(or someone similar).

dat phat laDee hasn't sung. yet

Shuey would be handy...

can he kick & handball well, off both feet ?

Edited September 26, 201510 yr by dee-luded

Apparently it's a very dangerous fish caught a couple of k's west of Fairhaven Surf Lifesaving Club.

I can believe this, in the topsy turvy games world of modern AFL... I'm holding fast to this idea with baited breath. a dangerous fish you say, & this fish can become rednblue through & through?

Edited September 26, 201510 yr by dee-luded

Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

whitecross suckling and shoemaker are rumoured.

hale will retire.

Edited September 27, 201510 yr by Moonshadow

Shoemaker is happy playing back up at hawks, he rather be around greatness then having more playing time, not the type a club needs to improve, we won't land a big fish, and i would not vote for anyone on that list because bennall is trouble, and the others are just pipe dreams.

Big fish? I don't know. But there is the potential for a bit of a seafood combination.

Tom (Moreton Bay) Bugg

Rory Lobb(ster)

Trent (John) West

Jesse White(bait)

Cale Hooker

Aaron Mullett

Aaron Black(fish)

Farren Ray

Mike Pyke

There is talk that we can't spend big cap space on a "big fish" because we need to keep the money for Hogan, but given that Hogan is contacted for the next two years I reckon one of the best ways to get him to sign that extension is to land a big fish midfielder who will deliver to him up forward.

There is talk that we can't spend big cap space on a "big fish" because we need to keep the money for Hogan, but given that Hogan is contacted for the next two years I reckon one of the best ways to get him to sign that extension is to land a big fish midfielder who will deliver to him up forward.

We have plenty of cap room, just front load the contract for the first two years.

Im sure Melk's wouldn't mind his first two years being bigger in pay, he is the big fish yeah?

Edited September 27, 201510 yr by Ethan Tremblay

We have plenty of cap room, just front load the contract for the first two years.

Im sure Melk's wouldn't mind his first two years being bigger in pay, he is the big fish yeah?

No he would be the sardine.

Big fish? I don't know. But there is the potential for a bit of a seafood combination.

Tom (Moreton Bay) Bugg

Rory Lobb(ster)

Trent (John) West

Jesse White(bait)

Cale Hooker

Aaron Mullett

Aaron Black(fish)

Farren Ray

Mike Pyke

LoL... ah you beet me to it. can I add some more?

obviously you've got >

Bugg, Tomas

Mullett, Aaron

Pyke, Mike

can we go through the fish families?

ConGa, Reece

Fisher, Sam

Jack, Brandon

Jack, Kieran

Rowe, Sam

& to land a big fish you must have a >

Gaff, Andrew

There is talk that we can't spend big cap space on a "big fish" because we need to keep the money for Hogan, but given that Hogan is contacted for the next two years I reckon one of the best ways to get him to sign that extension is to land a big fish midfielder who will deliver to him up forward.

Josh Kennedy (Swans), who would have to be front ended, for a 4 or 5 year contract. this helps the swans from their cap dilemma & to keep their young guns. I think they could be interested?

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-sydney-swans--josh-p--kennedy

.... he is a leader we need, & his age bracket actually works with Hogans contract timeframe, if JK's contract is loaded to the front end.

Edited September 27, 201510 yr by dee-luded

Why aren't hawthorn players talked about as trade possibilities?

There must be good players who are not getting regular games, and good players who could earn stacks more elsewhere.

James Sicily would be a good get to play the 3rd tall forward role who pushes up into the midfield.

Also Jed Anderson as a line breaking midfielder. Either would be good.

I'm going for a double.

Pick 6 in this years draft from Kennedy from the Swans. Reason being Swans need early draft picks to have enough points to pick up Mills i think it is and Dunkley in the draft through Academy selection and father/son.

We'll also trade Howe and our first round pick of next year for O'Meara. Reason being Suns will know he's out the door end of 2016 and they wont want to risk another injury effected year lowering his trade value. So they'll take a 1st round pick in next years strong draft and a promoters dream in Howe.

Decided to amend my prediction of above.

Pick 6 in this years draft for Tippett from the Swans. Reason being Swans need early draft picks to have enough points to pick up Mills i think it is and Dunkley in the draft through Academy selection and father/son. The Tippett/Franklin experiment hasn't been working for them and they'll stick with Buddy all the way. Been some rumblings Tippett not entirely happy, so we could swoop which also frees up Sydney's cap whcih they need.

We'll also trade Howe, Grimes and our first & second round pick of next year for O'Meara, Gorringe & Gold Coast third round pick next year and fourth round pick this year. Reason being Suns will know O'Meara's out the door end of 2016 and they wont want to risk another injury effected year lowering his trade value. So they'll take a 1st & 2nd round picks in next years strong draft, a promoters dream in Howe plus an experienced Grimes to help with their leadership.

Tippet and hogan would be an awesome combination. Pity we would never get it to them. Mids, mids and mir mids

Pulled off the M Clark deal one trade period. Regsrded as the deal of the draft at the time.

20/20 - No - then, yes.

surely Swallow is more likely to settle in a swans, eagles, crows, or hawks nest, than to dive on our hell pool ?

A couple of weeks back I checked Josh Kennedy's age, & thought that puts him out of our picture;

..... but with our dearth of leaders & lack of real talent in our +27 Yr bracket, I checked again a few days back on his contract status, & started to think the idea of Josh Kennedy from the Swans, could really help us sort out our culture & leadership issues, even if for only 3 or 4 seasons.

I don't think we could do any better to help us get a move along than to do a deal for his services. he is contracted, but the Swans do have salary cap issues, & have so many elite Mids coming through that they have to try to keep happy, & on their books.

wadda you know dc?

do carp on wise

there's bound to lots of by-catch, in these broad trawling threads. lets hope JTaylor is environmentally sound when it comes to trawling the AFL c-scape for the best catch.

the eagle's landed him, in 2014, And' put him in the bag, til end of 2016.

dat phat laDee hasn't sung. yet

can he kick & handball well, off both feet ?

I'd be interested even if he could only handball on his preferred right foot.

Surely a big factor in any likelihood of 'big fish' movement is next years free agency.

Clubs seem generally to want to trade players before they walk for pitiful compensation - that mood will only be increased by Dangerfield's departure.

Brisbane's Redden is already on the move a year early. As is Yarran from Carlton.

Other possible big fish going FA in 2016, with an (!) next to what I'd call dream targets, are -

Daniel Rich

Scott Pendlebury

Steel Sidebottom (!)

Cale Hooker

Todd Goldstein

Jack Ziebell

Hamish Hartlett

Jack Riewoldt

David Armitage (!)

Dan Hannebery (!)

Kieran Jack

This could be out of date a bit, but you get the picture. Lots to work with and really, anyone is guessing.

Jack Riewoldt 'for the lols', just to watch Richmond fans turn inside out.

Surely a big factor in any likelihood of 'big fish' movement is next years free agency.

Clubs seem generally to want to trade players before they walk for pitiful compensation - that mood will only be increased by Dangerfield's departure.

Brisbane's Redden is already on the move a year early. As is Yarran from Carlton.

Other possible big fish going FA in 2016, with an (!) next to what I'd call dream targets, are -

Daniel Rich

Scott Pendlebury

Steel Sidebottom (!)

Cale Hooker

Todd Goldstein

Jack Ziebell

Hamish Hartlett

Jack Riewoldt

David Armitage (!)

Dan Hannebery (!)

Kieran Jack

This could be out of date a bit, but you get the picture. Lots to work with and really, anyone is guessing.

Jack Riewoldt 'for the lols', just to watch Richmond fans turn inside out.

Off the top of my head JRoo and Hanners both re-signed this year, not sure if any others have

Sam Rowe

( has that one been done yet ?)

Josh Kennedy 2015, Dion Prestia 2016 ??

Oh ... ohhhhh ...

I won't be gutted if we don't land an A grade mid, even if Roos has continually said we need one.

We lack depth players more than anything. The fellas let go so far aren't considered depth in the eyes of the coaches and most would agree. We need a list that can maintain a performance standard once injuries start to take their toll. Our best 22 will be starting to get some playing time together by the end of this year and I'm more confident than ever that if fit, we can push into finals.

Draft/trade some decent depth players first and foremost.

Edited September 28, 201510 yr by McQueen

I won't be gutted if we don't land an A grade mid, even if Roos has continually said we need one.

We lack depth players more than anything. The fellas let go so far aren't considered depth in the eyes of the coaches and most would agree. We need a list that can maintain a performance standard once injuries start to take their toll. Our best 22 will be starting to get some playing time together by the end of this year and I'm more confident than ever that if fit, we can push into finals.

Draft some decent depth players first and foremost.

Yup. Depth is more important than anything for the list at this stage. Landing an A grader will be great but wont amount to anything if we have to continually top the team up each week with VFL standard footballers each week.