1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Ban on being at the club is over as of today.

Welcome back Jake. Hope you can make most of your talent with us.

He'd be feeling relieved and excited and nervous I'd think.  Moving on from this sorry saga starts today.  Good luck to him.  

People have their views on him as a player, but for me, I've erased all past views and biases, go in with an open mind and am looking forward to seeing what he can add.

He Better be good....

14 minutes ago, Nasher said:

He'd be feeling relieved and excited and nervous I'd think.  Moving on from this sorry saga starts today.  Good luck to him.  

People have their views on him as a player, but for me, I've erased all past views and biases, go in with an open mind and am looking forward to seeing what he can add.

On a purely theoretical level Nasher, I agree. He's done his time, we move on and hope he plays well for us.

But my gut doesn't feel right about it. I accept the situation, but with some unease. I feel the same way about Hibberd. I don't think there's anything rational about the feeling, it's just there.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-14/melksham-set-for-medical-check-before-kicking-off-dees-career

 

Nice line about Hogan at the end too

With all the talk of us being such a young side this season, the addition of Melksham and Hibberd would increase the average age/games overnight.  Not sure how significant that is though if they can't play at the required level, as adding Dunn, Garland and or H would have a similar statistical effect.

When adding just two players has such a significant statistical effect, I do wonder if this stat/claim was over played a bit by the club this year?

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He Better be good....

You gonna hold ur breath if he isn't, Goodwin wouldn't have recommended him if he didn't think so

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He Better be good....

Or else?

8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Or else?

We throw him back!

25 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Or else?

It is a big risk with a year wasted

He better be good. 

Just another element that Roos nailed for this club.

Goodwin could very well be the league's next Clarkson - different style obviously, but equally as effective. Already love the bloke and what he has contributed to this club thus far.

 

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He Better be good....

I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. 

6 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. 

above average at best on an AFL scale i would say

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

With all the talk of us being such a young side this season, the addition of Melksham and Hibberd would increase the average age/games overnight.  Not sure how significant that is though if they can't play at the required level, as adding Dunn, Garland and or H would have a similar statistical effect.

When adding just two players has such a significant statistical effect, I do wonder if this stat/claim was over played a bit by the club this year?

What are they? 24 and 26, with 100 and 80 games experience respectively. They'd increase the average but hardly send it sky rocketing. The youth thing does get overplayed but in some regards it's right. The midfield starting to get some continuity with Gawn, Jones, Viney, Tyson, despite a young average age/games they are entering/in their prime. 

But up forward it was often Hogan, Petracca, Brayshaw, Kent with only Watts and Garlett/Pedda as experience and those last two aren't exactly Luke Hodge style leaders.

Then down back it was Tommy Mc, Jetta and a bunch of kids. To have Frost, Oscar, Hunt, Harmes, Wagner all with 30 games and under 22 or whatever they are in the same side there's definitely an inexperience factor there. Especially if trying to play a zone defensive system that relies on players making aggressive decisions on when to come up, when to drop back, when to fly for marks etc. It might take some time to mesh but I'm sure the hope is that a couple of experienced players being added to the backline group solidifies the unit.

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

above average at best on an AFL scale i would say

Maybe, does provide depth beyond that is debatable. 

2 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Maybe, does provide depth beyond that is debatable. 

And how do you judge his form?

Juiced up or Clean...

Massive gamble along with a wasted year...

he has to excell to make it worthwhile. 

17 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. 

 

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

above average at best on an AFL scale i would say

I don't know about that. I'm cautiously optimistic, although I would've preferred him playing this year. There's a few reasons:

1. He was very promising in his first few years and then seemed to hit a snag the last couple. Who knows how much the ASADA stuff played on his mind.

2. Then there's the chance that like many players they hit a bit of a wall around the 60-80 game mark where expectations have overshot performances and they have to fight through a bit of a dry spell to really become fully formed players. Nath Jones the best example of that.

3. The change of role to half back might see a lift in output. He can run, he plays well overhead for his size and he has kicking penetration. In our game style that is based upon defenders coming up to win the ball back and then attacking out to space and overlapping he might be valuable.

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

I don't know about that. I'm cautiously optimistic, although I would've preferred him playing this year. There's a few reasons:

1. He was very promising in his first few years and then seemed to hit a snag the last couple. Who knows how much the ASADA stuff played on his mind.

2. Then there's the chance that like many players they hit a bit of a wall around the 60-80 game mark where expectations have overshot performances and they have to fight through a bit of a dry spell to really become fully formed players. Nath Jones the best example of that.

3. The change of role to half back might see a lift in output. He can run, he plays well overhead for his size and he has kicking penetration. In our game style that is based upon defenders coming up to win the ball back and then attacking out to space and overlapping he might be valuable.

I hope he is a star DS considering what we paid and what he didn't do in 2016. Half Back was our weakness this year...

I hope he trains hard and gets his body ready for the Round 1 Honorary Friday Night Melkshake Cup Clash with Essendon. 

Edited September 14, 20168 yr by DominatrixTyson

These blokes will both bring lots of information too as well as experience, even while they were out i would expect.

He has had 12 months to think about things, and get himself in the absolute best shape possible. I am not convinced about Melksham as a footballer, but I would be bitterly disappointed if he is not the hardest worker at the club between now and round 1. He should be absolutely desperate to prove himself to the club and to his teammates.

7 minutes ago, willmoy said:

These blokes will both bring lots of information too as well as experience, even while they were out i would expect.

I think whatever value there was to take from Hird and Thompson's time at Essendon we've got covered with Goodwin and McCartney. 

That said, the small group of banned bombers have been training with Sean Wellman who coached our backline better than anyone I can remember and it's been a select group featuring some pretty classy players in Watson, Hurley, Heppell and Hooker.

55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I hope he is a star DS considering what we paid 

How many stars get traded for pick 26?

He doesnt need to be a star, but I would hope he is a mainstay in our best 18 and a very good player.

Edited September 14, 20168 yr by Petraccattack

19 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

How many stars get traded for pick 26?

He doesnt need to be a star, but I would hope he is a mainstay in our best 18 and a very good player.

Sorry considering the circumstances he has to be better than just a mainstay. 

How do you read his form?

Juiced up or not....

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He Better be good....

Or we supplement him.