Nasher 33,686 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, faultydet said: Ban on being at the club is over as of today. Welcome back Jake. Hope you can make most of your talent with us. He'd be feeling relieved and excited and nervous I'd think. Moving on from this sorry saga starts today. Good luck to him. People have their views on him as a player, but for me, I've erased all past views and biases, go in with an open mind and am looking forward to seeing what he can add. 18 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 He Better be good.... 4 Quote
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 14 minutes ago, Nasher said: He'd be feeling relieved and excited and nervous I'd think. Moving on from this sorry saga starts today. Good luck to him. People have their views on him as a player, but for me, I've erased all past views and biases, go in with an open mind and am looking forward to seeing what he can add. On a purely theoretical level Nasher, I agree. He's done his time, we move on and hope he plays well for us. But my gut doesn't feel right about it. I accept the situation, but with some unease. I feel the same way about Hibberd. I don't think there's anything rational about the feeling, it's just there. 1 Quote
TheoX 1,222 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-14/melksham-set-for-medical-check-before-kicking-off-dees-career Nice line about Hogan at the end too 3 Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 With all the talk of us being such a young side this season, the addition of Melksham and Hibberd would increase the average age/games overnight. Not sure how significant that is though if they can't play at the required level, as adding Dunn, Garland and or H would have a similar statistical effect. When adding just two players has such a significant statistical effect, I do wonder if this stat/claim was over played a bit by the club this year? Quote
Satyriconhome 10,880 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: He Better be good.... You gonna hold ur breath if he isn't, Goodwin wouldn't have recommended him if he didn't think so Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: He Better be good.... Or else? Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said: Or else? We throw him back! 3 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said: Or else? It is a big risk with a year wasted He better be good. 1 Quote
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Just another element that Roos nailed for this club. Goodwin could very well be the league's next Clarkson - different style obviously, but equally as effective. Already love the bloke and what he has contributed to this club thus far. Quote
hemingway 7,633 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: He Better be good.... I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, hemingway said: I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. above average at best on an AFL scale i would say 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: With all the talk of us being such a young side this season, the addition of Melksham and Hibberd would increase the average age/games overnight. Not sure how significant that is though if they can't play at the required level, as adding Dunn, Garland and or H would have a similar statistical effect. When adding just two players has such a significant statistical effect, I do wonder if this stat/claim was over played a bit by the club this year? What are they? 24 and 26, with 100 and 80 games experience respectively. They'd increase the average but hardly send it sky rocketing. The youth thing does get overplayed but in some regards it's right. The midfield starting to get some continuity with Gawn, Jones, Viney, Tyson, despite a young average age/games they are entering/in their prime. But up forward it was often Hogan, Petracca, Brayshaw, Kent with only Watts and Garlett/Pedda as experience and those last two aren't exactly Luke Hodge style leaders. Then down back it was Tommy Mc, Jetta and a bunch of kids. To have Frost, Oscar, Hunt, Harmes, Wagner all with 30 games and under 22 or whatever they are in the same side there's definitely an inexperience factor there. Especially if trying to play a zone defensive system that relies on players making aggressive decisions on when to come up, when to drop back, when to fly for marks etc. It might take some time to mesh but I'm sure the hope is that a couple of experienced players being added to the backline group solidifies the unit. Quote
hemingway 7,633 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: above average at best on an AFL scale i would say Maybe, does provide depth beyond that is debatable. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, hemingway said: Maybe, does provide depth beyond that is debatable. And how do you judge his form? Juiced up or Clean... Massive gamble along with a wasted year... he has to excell to make it worthwhile. 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, hemingway said: I think we know from his EFC days what he brings. 9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: above average at best on an AFL scale i would say I don't know about that. I'm cautiously optimistic, although I would've preferred him playing this year. There's a few reasons: 1. He was very promising in his first few years and then seemed to hit a snag the last couple. Who knows how much the ASADA stuff played on his mind. 2. Then there's the chance that like many players they hit a bit of a wall around the 60-80 game mark where expectations have overshot performances and they have to fight through a bit of a dry spell to really become fully formed players. Nath Jones the best example of that. 3. The change of role to half back might see a lift in output. He can run, he plays well overhead for his size and he has kicking penetration. In our game style that is based upon defenders coming up to win the ball back and then attacking out to space and overlapping he might be valuable. 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: I don't know about that. I'm cautiously optimistic, although I would've preferred him playing this year. There's a few reasons: 1. He was very promising in his first few years and then seemed to hit a snag the last couple. Who knows how much the ASADA stuff played on his mind. 2. Then there's the chance that like many players they hit a bit of a wall around the 60-80 game mark where expectations have overshot performances and they have to fight through a bit of a dry spell to really become fully formed players. Nath Jones the best example of that. 3. The change of role to half back might see a lift in output. He can run, he plays well overhead for his size and he has kicking penetration. In our game style that is based upon defenders coming up to win the ball back and then attacking out to space and overlapping he might be valuable. I hope he is a star DS considering what we paid and what he didn't do in 2016. Half Back was our weakness this year... Quote
deelete my account 1,194 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I hope he trains hard and gets his body ready for the Round 1 Honorary Friday Night Melkshake Cup Clash with Essendon. Edited September 14, 2016 by DominatrixTyson 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 These blokes will both bring lots of information too as well as experience, even while they were out i would expect. Quote
poita 3,944 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 He has had 12 months to think about things, and get himself in the absolute best shape possible. I am not convinced about Melksham as a footballer, but I would be bitterly disappointed if he is not the hardest worker at the club between now and round 1. He should be absolutely desperate to prove himself to the club and to his teammates. 5 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, willmoy said: These blokes will both bring lots of information too as well as experience, even while they were out i would expect. I think whatever value there was to take from Hird and Thompson's time at Essendon we've got covered with Goodwin and McCartney. That said, the small group of banned bombers have been training with Sean Wellman who coached our backline better than anyone I can remember and it's been a select group featuring some pretty classy players in Watson, Hurley, Heppell and Hooker. 1 Quote
What 18,810 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: I hope he is a star DS considering what we paid How many stars get traded for pick 26? He doesnt need to be a star, but I would hope he is a mainstay in our best 18 and a very good player. Edited September 14, 2016 by Petraccattack 6 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: How many stars get traded for pick 26? He doesnt need to be a star, but I would hope he is a mainstay in our best 18 and a very good player. Sorry considering the circumstances he has to be better than just a mainstay. How do you read his form? Juiced up or not.... Quote
chook fowler 19,772 Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: He Better be good.... Or we supplement him. 1 Quote
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