Adam The God 30,735 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 If they didnt want to keep him they wouldn't offer him a contract, they would just trade him. Not necessarily. They could just be low-balling him, as we're probably doing with Howe and potentially Garland. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Not necessarily. They could just be low-balling him, as we're probably doing with Howe and potentially Garland. exactly Quote
Mad_Melbourne 877 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 theyre playing games me thinks Hardly would be, at current Essendon can ill afford to get rid of players with potential even if they have been sub performing. The list has suffered from the draft sanctions, poor list management and lack of actual quality footballers. Whilst Melksham is no superstar he is still a top 10 talent who has shown some potential to be a decent footballer. No games what soever they would much rather him on their list than traded. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 No Melksham please, especially if he is banned for 2 out of a wasted 4 year contract this is a bit that actually concerns me. Doesnt the club give any credence to the current WADA appeal.. Do they not understand it 1 Quote
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Essendon wanted wines or wingard and a first rounder for ryder... They will demand hogan,brayshaw or mcdonald Yeh and we'll say no...Essendon ended up getting picks 17 and 37 in exchange for Ryder. A fair trade off in the end in my eyes. WGAF what they ask for? We'll either work out a deal that works for us, or he stays at Essendon? Big whoop. Edited September 17, 2015 by stevethemanjordan 1 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Essendon are notorious for dealing with in October... Hope he is comfortable going through the draft. For the security of a 4 year contract, he may well be. Wonder if any of the clubs selecting before us in the PSD would have any interest. Doubt the interstaters would and Carlton may try and force Carlisle into the PSD. Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 If he is one of the players involved in the WADA case then we can't look at him. It's really that simple for me. 5 Quote
chook fowler 19,774 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Happy to trust Goodwins and McCartneys judgement on this. Also PJ and the recruiters won't pay overs for him. 2 Quote
Redleg 42,164 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Essendon are notorious for dealing with in October... Could we do it in September then? 1 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Jack Watts had at least as good/better year than this C-grader. Same possessions, more marks, similar goals and overall rating. http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=2015&PlayerName1=Jack+Watts&ExactMatch1=true&PlayerName2=&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&Compare=Compare&SelectedPlayers=1997%2C This tells me that we just can't attract anything decent. It falls into the category: We must do something, this is something, therefore, we must do this. Edited September 17, 2015 by ProDee 1 Quote
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Jack Watts had at least as good/better year than this C-grader. Same possessions, more marks, similar goals and overall rating. http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=2015&PlayerName1=Jack+Watts&ExactMatch1=true&PlayerName2=&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&Compare=Compare&SelectedPlayers=1997%2C This tells me that we just can't attract anything decent. It falls into the category: We must do something, this is something, therefore, we must do this. How would you know who the club is interested in or talking to? The trade period doesn't even start for 2.5 weeks. Just because it's not being rumoured on SEN or in the HS doesn't mean we're not being very active behind the scenes. What rubbish. Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,508 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 How would you know who the club is interested in or talking to? The trade period doesn't even start for 2.5 weeks. Just because it's not being rumoured on SEN or in the HS doesn't mean we're not being very active behind the scenes. What rubbish.More often than not the speculation is right. Quote
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) More often than not the speculation is right. Very often you don't hear about trades until they occur. And a lot of the time the speculation is a million miles off. Paying out on the club because we haven't been linked to every Tom, Dick and Harry at this stage? Ridiculous. Edited September 17, 2015 by Tough Kent 1 Quote
H_T 3,049 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 That and of itself isnt cut and dried id suggest. Theyre not going out of their way to ensure he stays. Sounds like " yeah ..you can go" More like: - M: "I want out basically, frankly it's an endless joke, you haven't looked after our best interests, it's a revolving door here as far as coaches go, I don't want to be a part of this club, I need a fresh start, my footy and health has suffered, my family... - I love footy and like some others, I'm not enjoying it here" E: "Ok, well here's a 2 year contract that we think is fair and reasonable, we think 2016 will be exciting and we look to improve and get to finals, we hope that you'll stay and remain a one club player, but you're welcome to look elsewhere at offers, if that's the way you feel. As you are entitled to. But we 'd like you to sign with us. We think we have Woosha as coach...what do you think?" M: "The chemist {sigh}....lol?" 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,552 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Watts for Melksham straight swap? No exchange of picks, no steak knives, nothing , just a straight swap. 1 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Watts for Melksham straight swap? No exchange of picks, no steak knives, nothing , just a straight swap. We lose on that one. 14 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 How would you know who the club is interested in or talking to? The trade period doesn't even start for 2.5 weeks. Just because it's not being rumoured on SEN or in the HS doesn't mean we're not being very active behind the scenes. What rubbish. Because we're interested in this spud. Quote
Dee1987 277 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I'll back Goodwin, Roos and Macartney on this one, Melksham had a very impressive 2013 and 14 for the bombers, only 24, might not ever be an A grade mid that we so desperately need but, he has far more scope to work with than the like of Bail, M Jones, Mckenzie, Fitzpatrick who have well and truly shown the are way off AFL level. As long as we have still got our fingers in a few more pies and with the likes of Omeara, Prestia, Dangerfield etc then I'm cool with that. There was probably question marks over Josh Kennedy at the Hawks and Ben Mcglyn who just looked like players and similar with Vince now look at them, not saying he definitely will but we have something to work with, we seem to be having trouble attracting quality players so we need to do something 2 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 How would Essendon supporters, club hierarchy, etc, anybody for that matter been able to judge whether or not a player was intentionally putting in enough, or for that matter was physically or mentally able to put in enough or not. Time span. Last couple of tempestuous years. Figure? Quote
AllMyTeamsAreWank 564 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Mad keen Bomber mate is very happy to see him leave EFC. Says he is a very frustrating footballer. Acknowledged that he was tough as nails and good in the contest but let down by his deficiencies that include: -very inconsistent from week to week -poor decision maker -turnover king -poor disposal -dumb as d......(gratuitous) Given comments that the Demons want a team that play hard contested footy, this selection would make sense. However, the fact that he could not get a regular game at EFC and that they are happy to let him go says a lot about his future value. His alleged deficiencies are a concern particularly if we end up trading a guy with elite disposal skills. So Mackenzie MKII? Edited September 17, 2015 by AllMyTeamsAreWank Quote
bing181 9,473 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 McCartney and Goodwin both coached him at Essendon. Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 If we want him we will get him.... Quote
Henrietta Lumbago 331 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Watts for Melksham straight swap? No exchange of picks, no steak knives, nothing , just a straight swap. Done in a heartbeat.. 1 Quote
H_T 3,049 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Given comments that the Demons want a team that play hard contested footy, this selection would make sense. However, the fact that he could not get a regular game at EFC and that they are happy to let him go says a lot about his future value. His alleged deficiencies are a concern particularly if we end up trading a guy with elite disposal skills. Define regular. He played 18 this season. 2 Quote
Members' Wing 1,106 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Done in a heartbeat.. You'd do a straight swap of Melksham for Watts? Dear lord! 4 Quote
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