forgive me if I spew so much over my keyboard I am no longer able to type

We won't just forgive you, we will thank you

Freo are cooked. The one year they needed to win the flag and they have blown it. Pavlich is finished.

Typical Ross Lyon

He coaches to win a flag and doesn't plan for the future, not a massive amour of young talent coming through. On the decline.

Its a disgrace to society that Dawson has played as many games as he has.

Putrid player

Memories of '87 keep emerging in my head..

Dammit they just keep punching and winning...

I hate all finalists but ya know what ...
Fork Ross Lyon and his garbage game plan.

Edited September 25, 201510 yr by Fork 'em

I hate all finalists but ya know what ......

Fork Ross Lyon and his garbage game plan.

It will never beat a team like the Hawks.

How many touches for O'Rourke tonight?

Chip isn't the reason they won tonight.

The point isn't what these players have done or haven't done tonight but how Hawthorn are allowed to top up their side. O'Rourke is handy depth and may prove to be a good pick up. Also, while Frawley hasn't won the game for Hawthorn, he shut down Matthew Pavlich for the majority of the game.

Edited September 25, 201510 yr by Demon Jack

10 Goals in 2 Hours is not going to win a big game unless it is pouring rain

I wonder what Lyon will do now?

Taberner and Sheridan not Afl standard. You just can't have these guys out there. We need to heed these lessons. Plus playing injured players is such a huge risk. Hawks look awesome. Assuming Weagles win I see a reversal in result, ie Hawks again. I did think to be fair Frawley played v well. Interest level next week will be pretty low.....from many of us I expect

Lyon - the perpetual bridesmaid.

What I find amusing is how many people are pi££ed at Hawthorn and what they stand for then will jump across and argue why Watts and Toumpas shouldn't be traded.

There's the difference.

Hawks, couple of pats on the back, very low key. They know it all means nothing. They play to win flags.

Rewind to Norths carry on last week.

Tells the story.

I totally understand where you're coming from, but....

Living in WA and hearing for the last month how it's going to be an all WA grand final and putting up with their feral supporters, it's not all bad.

you know what's really bad? Living in WA and never being able to watch the Dees live. Ouch.

Freo are cooked. The one year they needed to win the flag and they have blown it. Pavlich is finished.

Typical Ross Lyon

2013 was their chance.

Lyon - the perpetual bridesmaid.

Didn't even make it to the wedding this time...

Another Hawks win, no injuries, Gunston will be fit next week and a full list available for the Granny for the third year in a row! The Dawks were the better side, the umpires absorbed the early Freo pressure and then they took control. Freo has about 5 players who are a liability at this level.

I don't think I can watch the GF next week with Frawley playing in it. Genuinely makes me sick.

In saying that, Fremantle primed itself for finals and couldn't perform. Hardly beat Sydney who were out on their feet, then pretty comprehensively beaten tonight. Need to learn to score a bit more.

I'm sick of Hawthorn but they have traded brilliantly, no harm in that.

They've traded as well as they have lured free agents.

The successful clubs continue to attract the talent, whether via trade or FA. They can afford to trade first round picks because they're not as desperate for top-end talented youth. It's another reason I hate them.

I meant that they will move into 3rd place on the most premierships won ladder. It's Carlton/Essendon equal first with 16, Collingwood next with 15 and Hawthorn and us on equal 3rd with 12.

All good, my bad. I've been skipping between Demonland and two different group messages. Rapid fire all round.

Lyon destroying Freo with a total misunderstanding of how to play Hawthorn.

He's pushing players back deep into defence and allowing them to control the ball further up the ground. They are chipping it around with no pressure then finding the gaps to move forward & score.

This guy was rated the best coach in the AFL by many, he's an amateur tonight.

You don't play Hawthorn this way, you must, must, must put pressure on the ball carrier.

Unfortunately it was obvious from the first few minutes that Freo, even though hitting the scoreboard were playing it this way, not enough pressure on the ball carrier and it's now come back and bitten them on the a....

Unless they change the plan it's game over.

Come on Rossy, show us why you get the accolades and why you are on the big bucks...

Will run this again...but it looks like Lyon is not the man to take them to the prize.

Not the great coach he is made out to be, he's not a finisher.

There's the difference.

Hawks, couple of pats on the back, very low key. They know it all means nothing. They play to win flags.

Rewind to Norths carry on last week.

Tells the story.

Turn it up, seriously, it's easy to be nonchalant about winning preliminary finals when you've made four consecutive grand finals.

The majority of North's list won't have played in one, let alone won three flags.

you know what's really bad? Living in WA and never being able to watch the Dees live. Ouch.

I flew over 5 times to watch them live for 8 games..

Working hard and having money sucks some times...

Must admit that vision of Frawley belting out the song was vomit worthy.

Thanks a lot Ross Lyon you pretenders.. Thinking you can win a flag by kicking 8 goals... Thanks to you I now have to attend my mates BBQ for the 4th yr in a row & watch Hawks play in 4 gfs & possibly win 3 in a row!

They've traded as well as they have lured free agents.

Frawley is their only free agent and they lost Franklin under free agency. I'd prefer Franklin to Frawley.

Frawley is their only free agent and they lost Franklin under free agency. I'd prefer Franklin to Frawley.

I agree, although Frawley was handier tonight than Franlkin, just.