This article, like the last one, is nothing but an excuse to have a crack at clubs he feels the competition would be better off without. His own beloved Port was virtually on the scrap heap before the AFL swept in with a multi-million dollar rescue mission. Never a whisper of that from this dope.

Am i right in thinking Port still have considerable debt issues? MFC on the other hand are getting our fiscal house in order.

Another point Russel misses is that if we continue to improve on field and win say 11 games we will average up around the 40k mark in attendance and we play most of our home games at the MCG. So actually not that unattractive after all. Particularly if you factor in that the down side for the Perth teams is that whilst they get a crowd at their home games (though i doubt they will fill a 60k stadium every game) they have to travel interstate very second week. And often have to play at crap venues like ethiad, in tassie and at Metricon.

I heard some talk on the radio on the weekend about the impact on flying from Perth to the east coast every second week. I forget who it was but they were saying that some WC players believed it shortened their career and was particularly hard on big players (which makes sense).

Am i right in thinking Port still have considerable debt issues? MFC on the other hand are getting our fiscal house in order.

Another point Russel misses is that if we continue to improve on field and win say 11 games we will average up around the 40k mark in attendance and we play most of our home games at the MCG. So actually not that unattractive after all. Particularly if you factor in that the down side for the Perth teams is that whilst they get a crowd at their home games (though i doubt they will fill a 60k stadium every game) they have to travel interstate very second week. And often have to play at crap venues like ethiad, in tassie and at Metricon.

I heard some talk on the radio on the weekend about the impact on flying from Perth to the east coast every second week. I forget who it was but they were saying that some WC players believed it shortened their career and was particularly hard on big players (which makes sense).

Interesting ive always wondered why its so hard for teams to win after taking a plane flight? Doesnt seem to be a particularly harrowing experience?? Does it really deplete fitness /fatigue levels that much?? What did they say regarding this?

Keep drinking Dwayne.....

When I see him on the TV or hear his voice I feel my top lip curling and my fist clenches.

I do not know anyone else (involved in football) who has that effect on me.

What a pathetic article.

PS I am a yoga loving, a student of meditation, who practices mindfulness so it takes a lot to push me to this point.

Interesting ive always wondered why its so hard for teams to win after taking a plane flight? Doesnt seem to be a particularly harrowing experience?? Does it really deplete fitness /fatigue levels that much?? What did they say regarding this?

They said it really hinders recovery, again particularly for big fellas because as even though they are in business class and have more room it is still pretty cramped and it is a really long flight. One of them, an ex player said also the pressurised environment didn't help things. The consensus was clear that it shortened careers with someone noting Bluey McKenna was adamant it truncated his by up to 2 years.

Add to the problems associated with a long flight the extra hassles of getting to and from the airport (geelong to Tulla anyone?), flight delays, red eye flights, problems players with certain injuries face with flying and having to spend every second week in hotel rooms and away from your own home and you start to have more than a few disincentives to play for a Perth team. And that's not even taking into account that some players hate the fishbowl effect in SA and WA.

Edit: it would be interesting to see the averga number of games played by WC and Freo players and how they fare with players reaching 200 and 300 game milestones. Is pav the only docker to have played 300?

They said it really hinders recovery, again particularly for big fellas because as even though they are in business class and have more room it is still pretty cramped and it is a really long flight. One of them, an ex player said also the pressurised environment didn't help things. The consensus was clear that it shortened careers with someone noting Bluey McKenna was adamant it truncated his by up to 2 years.

Add to the problems associated with a long flight the extra hassles of getting to and from the airport (geelong to Tulla anyone?), flight delays, red eye flights, problems players with certain injuries face with flying and having to spend every second week in hotel rooms and away from your own home and you start to have more than a few disincentives to play for a Perth team. And that's not even taking into account that some players hate the fishbowl effect in SA and WA.

Edit: it would be interesting to see the averga number of games played by WC and Freo players and how they fare with players reaching 200 and 300 game milestones. Is pav the only docker to have played 300?

We're not doing to well here either.

I think we should put in a petition to stop him commentating Melbourne games.

Not spiteful like he is. Just reminding Foxtel who their audience is and why they would choose to upset them so.

I've always thought that why if you are commentating so many games of one side and you knew who your audience was that you would be so derogatory to their team. Why can't Foxtel get someone like Schwartz or a Melbourne person or someone who actually likes Melbourne to commentate Melbourne games. I mean not only were there not many at the game but the TV audience would have been low and primarily Melbourne supporters, we were happy enough because we won but when we lose and he is commentating he is boring and repetitive just sinking the boot in, quite often when the audience would again be primarily Melbourne supporters.

I'm not suggesting something like Ed TV but his commentary is like the opposite of Ed TV to a Melbourne supporter.

Hit him where it hurts and get him out of a job. It's only what he deserves.

Unfortunately the broadcasters seem to love getting biased commentators doing games. Bulldogs always get Darcy, Geelong always get Lingy, Brisbane always get Browny.

Unfortunately the broadcasters seem to love getting biased commentators doing games. Bulldogs always get Darcy, Geelong always get Lingy, Brisbane always get Browny.

And we get Russell? His biased but not in the way your other examples are. The Anti Bias

When I see him on the TV or hear his voice I feel my top lip curling and my fist clenches.

I do not know anyone else (involved in football) who has that effect on me.

What a pathetic article.

PS I am a yoga loving, a student of meditation student, who practices mindfulness so it takes a lot to push me to this point.

mmm.... a student of meditation student?

Back on topic. Jane he makes me cringe, but I hate fools and he is the grand master of fools.

They said it really hinders recovery, again particularly for big fellas because as even though they are in business class and have more room it is still pretty cramped and it is a really long flight. One of them, an ex player said also the pressurised environment didn't help things. The consensus was clear that it shortened careers with someone noting Bluey McKenna was adamant it truncated his by up to 2 years.

Add to the problems associated with a long flight the extra hassles of getting to and from the airport (geelong to Tulla anyone?), flight delays, red eye flights, problems players with certain injuries face with flying and having to spend every second week in hotel rooms and away from your own home and you start to have more than a few disincentives to play for a Perth team. And that's not even taking into account that some players hate the fishbowl effect in SA and WA.

Edit: it would be interesting to see the averga number of games played by WC and Freo players and how they fare with players reaching 200 and 300 game milestones. Is pav the only docker to have played 300?

Yes, I heard the conversation too.

They also spoke of "air conditioned rooms and runny noses".

If you're a big guy like Hogan, who has already had back issues, why would you want to catch a 4 hour flight twice a weekend every second week during the AFL season ? Glen Kakovich and other West Coast players have commented on the plane travel shortening careers.

If you're Jesse Hogan, who already started his career a little later at 20, I doubt you'd want to risk making it even shorter.

Also, perhaps someone can tell me the last genuine gun of the competition who has moved back home to Perth. And I don't mean a Josh Keenedy, who didn't want to go. And Des Headland doesn't cut it as a "gun".

I can't think of anyone in the AFL era, although I do accept that a lot started there and didn't need to move.

Btw, the [censored] needs to be told that Hogan has already extended his contract once when he didn't have to.

I get the feeling he isn't greatly respected by his peers. How could he possibly be with the constant arrogant dribble that comes out of his mouth? I'd be especially interested in hearing Dunstall's view of him behind closed doors.

This article, like the last one, is nothing but an excuse to have a crack at clubs he feels the competition would be better off without. His own beloved Port was virtually on the scrap heap before the AFL swept in with a multi-million dollar rescue mission. Never a whisper of that from this dope.

The title itself is a laugh: "Crowds and on-field success the keys to avoiding player exodus says Dwayne Russell".

It would have been just as insightful if it read: "Australian rules football played with an oval shaped ball says Dwayne Russell".

The problem is, you can't even say that he will be made to look stupid if Hogan stays past 2017 and the club is competing in September in front of healthy crowds. That ship has long sailed away.

And he would be wrong there too - but the correct description (what is a correct description, says Derwayne) prolate spheroid would be beyond his comprehension

Also, perhaps someone can tell me the last genuine gun of the competition who has moved back home to Perth. And I don't mean a Josh Keenedy, who didn't want to go. And Des Headland doesn't cut it as a "gun".

I can't think of anyone in the AFL era, although I do accept that a lot started there and didn't need to move.

Jeff Farmer?

Edit to keep my post on topic: Dwayne's a [censored].

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How anyone can call this piece of Sh!t an article is beyond me?!

No mention of Father's Day!

The crowd of a designated home game of Mfc at Etihad versus an interstate team will always be discussed or will cop some negatively described flak because Melbourne supporters will always attend their home ground MCG more than they do at a one-off home game at Etihad.

As for Jesse, Der-Wayne (ker) let's just see how brave our club is.

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How anyone can call this piece of [censored] an article is beyond me?!

No mention of Father's Day!

The crowd of a designated home game of Mfc at Etihad versus an interstate team will always be discussed or will cop some negatively described flak because Melbourne supporters will always attend their home ground MCG more than they do at a one-off home game at Etihad.

As for Jesse, Der-Wayne (ker) let's just see how brave our club is.

That was actually the worst bit of the article - and the slight on MFC. Basically saying we were weak and would not offer him a contract because he would say no. I mean seriously what's that about? As Pro Dee we have already asked him for an extension. And surprise, surprise he agreed.

I'm sure Jesse and all of us hope that by the end of 2017 we will be making finals and pushing for top 6 finish in 2018. If that happens he gets to play in front of big crowds, play final, play at the G and be part of something special with a group of mates. If that's the case is he unlikely to want to go back home and start all over again, particularly with Freo who won't have won a flag by then.

Jeff Farmer?

Edit to keep my post on topic: Dwayne's a [censored].

Probably about the best player to return.

Probably the only decent player to return.

Let's not forget that those crowd figures include home games sold to the NT...

When I see him on the TV or hear his voice I feel my top lip curling and my fist clenches.

I do not know anyone else (involved in football) who has that effect on me.

What a pathetic article.

PS I am a yoga loving, a student of meditation student, who practices mindfulness so it takes a lot to push me to this point.

When I meditate on Dwayne,I see his future incarnation as a lab rat.

mmm.... a student of meditation student?

Back on topic. Jane he makes me cringe, but I hate fools and he is the grand master of fools.

See - that's what he makes me do!!

Not important enough to worry about.

As an Age Journalist he is listed in Wiki as the 4th ranked football writer (before he was moved on).

I think they may have had 5 footy writers then.

My colon produces more profound ideas than Dwayne.

Not important enough to worry about.As an Age Journalist he is listed in Wiki as the 4th ranked football writer (before he was moved on).I think they may have had 5 footy writers then.My colon produces more profound ideas than Dwayne.

About the same methane levels too.

If you take out the sold home games our average home crowd was 28,895, and that includes the GWS game.

Taking out other clubs' sold home games, the Dogs' was 24,801. St Kilda's was 27,313. North's was 29,814.

Of the four small clubs we're second for average home games in Melbourne, well in front of the Dogs who made the finals this year. In front of St Kilda who everyone thinks is so much better than we are. Only just behind North, who are still alive in the finals.

Am i right in thinking Port still have considerable debt issues? MFC on the other hand are getting our fiscal house in order.

Another point Russel misses is that if we continue to improve on field and win say 11 games we will average up around the 40k mark in attendance and we play most of our home games at the MCG. So actually not that unattractive after all. Particularly if you factor in that the down side for the Perth teams is that whilst they get a crowd at their home games (though i doubt they will fill a 60k stadium every game) they have to travel interstate very second week. And often have to play at crap venues like ethiad, in tassie and at Metricon.

I heard some talk on the radio on the weekend about the impact on flying from Perth to the east coast every second week. I forget who it was but they were saying that some WC players believed it shortened their career and was particularly hard on big players (which makes sense).

Easy way to fix this. Get rid of the Western Australian teams...

I don't remember him as a player but he played 50 games over five seasons (1987-91) for Geelong - an average of 10 games per year - which hardly puts him in "best 22 category".

Incidentally during his five seasons the Cats performances were mixed - finished well out of the finals twice (9th and 10th), missed the finals a third time.

These facts are derived from afltables.com and confirmed by australianfootball.com. (Interestingly, his elite sports properties biography claims 60 games in four seasons...some sensitivity there perhaps...which probably just goes to confirm his status as a [censored].)

I don't understand why I was censored since the word I used is the singular form of a word in the thread title (rhymes with dog).