Onya Frankie...i suspect PJ is asking the same questions.

There is something missing at this club

Nobody knows what it is....

it's the clubs balls SWYL

time to let every bloke on our list know they haven't earned the right to be untouchable, every single player has two games to prove they deserve to stay.

time for some big calls, we know Roosy can coach, they have a plan, the players either fit into that or they go elsewhere and we get someone in who will.

No other profession would allow such below par performances consistently without jobs being on the line, we should be no different.

I don't know if it says more about me or the club that I've become so used to and desensitised by games like today that I don't even find myself outraged anymore

Same. You can feel it in the crowd too. I just didn't care when Carlton got ahead, I didn't find it surprising. Lucky we played a little good footy to not make it a complete waste of a day

I feel you mate. Today I have just been miserable. I have tried so hard to remain positive all year but the last 8 matches have been disgraceful overall and have chipped away at my resilience until I just broke today. It is getting extremely hard to see us ever turning around what seems to be an ingrained cloak of failure that surrounds us. I feel like I have been cheated in a way for all the misery this club has made me suffer. The game of Aussie Rules is supposed to be enjoyable, how can it be when you are asked to remain strong through torture after 9 years and no end in sight? I actually stormed out at half time cos I couldn't take it - the idea of doing that even a few years ago would have been laughable, but this is how much they have broken me down. I have been to 1 non-mfc game this year when in previous years I would go to 15 easily. This mob is killing me. I have read tonight a great deal of people talking about how today represents the last straw after long periods of unconditional support and inevitable disappointment, and I cannot blame anybody one little bit.

I feel exactly the same C and B. Well put.

Edited August 23, 201510 yr by old dee

Same. You can feel it in the crowd too. I just didn't care when Carlton got ahead, I didn't find it surprising. Lucky we played a little good footy to not make it a complete waste of a day

Yep. I was there yesterday also for a very dirty day for the Pies - but their supporters were so loud, even in the face of a terrible display they showed passion. I am not bagging our supporters but it is clear and obvious to me that your average Melbourne supporter has just been completely numbed and jaded over time that there isn't even outrage at the atrocities of footy being commited before our eyes. Seeing our supposedly best players such as Vince hit the opposition on the chest under no pressure is not even an eclamation point at this stage. It's just like 'yeah what else is new?'. At half time you could just see people streaming out with a dead look of resignation that suggests it will be even harder to drag themselves in and try to support them next year. Very grim times.

From the Club's website:

Football Department

- Paul Roos - Senior Coach

- Todd Viney - Manager Player Personnel

- Josh Mahoney - Manager Football Operations

- Simon Goodwin - Senior Assistant Coach

- Ben Mathews - Midfield Coach

- Jade Rawlings - Backline Coach

- Daniel McPherson - Forward line Coach

- Brendan McCartney - Devlopment and Strategy Coach

- Brett Allison - Head of Development

- Brad Miller - Development Coach

- Shannon Byrnes - Welfare and Development Coach

- Justin Plapp - Casey Scorpions Coach

- Mallory Smith - Football Administration Manager

- Sean Larkin - Football Operations Coordinator

- Andrew Nichol - Player Development Manager

- Jason Taylor - National Recruting Manager

- Kelly O’Donnell - Pro scouting

- Darren Farrugia - Recruiting Technology Coordinator

- Tim Lamb - National Recruiting Officer

- David Misson - Elite Performance Manager

- Robert Jackson - Strength & Conditioning Manager

- Charles Allen - Load Manager

- Alex Sakadjian - Sport Science Co-ordinator & Rehabilitation Coach

- Paul Blackman - Head Doctor

- Zeeshan Arain - Club Doctor

- Bianca Scotney - Match Day Doctor

- James McLaren - VFL Doctor

- Steve Allan - Physiotherapist

- Sam Pietsch - Physiotherapist

- Joel Ames - Physiotherapist

- Peter Roberts - Training Services Co-ordinator

- Anthony Brown - Property Manager

- Pete Roberts - Football Technology Manager

- Michael Scott - Football Analyst

- Joanna Shinewell - Nutritionist

- Spike Harris - Team Manager

I suspect the technology bloke does an OK job and the team manager gets the team to the right ground on time with the right coloured shorts.

Any evidence the rest are any good?

Jeez, there's nearly one for every player at the club.

Maybe get rid of 10 of them and spend a few hundred thou on a sports psychologist

Same. You can feel it in the crowd too. I just didn't care when Carlton got ahead, I didn't find it surprising. Lucky we played a little good footy to not make it a complete waste of a day

It was a waste of a day, mate.

I suspect the technology bloke does an OK job and the team manager gets the team to the right ground on time with the right coloured shorts.

Any evidence the rest are any good?

So, including the players the club is staffed by about 100 people - what a miserable job this company does.. maybe they should all pack it in and start manufacturing corn tortillas or something, might at least be profitable

There was a whole lot of nonsense on the website about Roos saying they had to come out like maniacs this week after the doggies loss. What an absolute joke.

they came out like maniacs fresh from lobotomies. Is it wrong of me to be considering attending this Friday's training at Domain stadium with the intention of heckling the players and coaches?

it's the clubs balls SWYL

time to let every bloke on our list know they haven't earned the right to be untouchable, every single player has two games to prove they deserve to stay.

time for some big calls, we know Roosy can coach, they have a plan, the players either fit into that or they go elsewhere and we get someone in who will.

No other profession would allow such below par performances consistently without jobs being on the line, we should be no different.

Totally agree. I woul sack the ENTIRE leadership group on monday morning if i was able to.

The output in the first half was the worst i have seen. We were playing a rubbish busted team on the MCG and they toyed with us....

What I want is a serious number of changes to the team that plays Freo next week.

We have been giving players who cannot produce games for weeks now.

How about we change a few?

Oh no that will make Casey worse and after the effort they put in to make the finals why should they be penalised.

On reflection lets play the same lot why should they be allowed to get out of the spot light.

Yep. I was there yesterday also for a very dirty day for the Pies - but their supporters were so loud, even in the face of a terrible display they showed passion. I am not bagging our supporters but it is clear and obvious to me that your average Melbourne supporter has just been completely numbed and jaded over time that there isn't even outrage at the atrocities of footy being commited before our eyes. Seeing our supposedly best players such as Vince hit the opposition on the chest under no pressure is not even an eclamation point at this stage. It's just like 'yeah what else is new?'. At half time you could just see people streaming out with a dead look of resignation that suggests it will be even harder to drag themselves in and try to support them next year. Very grim times.

It used to be funny hearing the crowd react to our mistakes, now there's not a lot of reaction. In fact it was really quiet around where I was bar one guy who stood up and didn't even wear Melbourne colours. There's not of joy to be had for fans (especially when we don't even kick it long towards Hogan) and they are too used to the poor stuff that they just find it boring to get involved yet again.

Hope the trip west is a wakeup call of sorts. Whether that takes place before or after the game. I don't think Roos will wanna get flogged so it'll be interesting to see if we try to fight for a nil all draw (which is probably a good thing given our first quarters in the past few weeks)

I don't normally rant and rave and start threads complaining but today is the last straw.

I want an apology from the playing group and a proper explanation to why they decided to give up or not try against the bottom of the club side.

There is no pressure no taclking no running and no leadership.

After years of being a member and watching every game I've had enough and I won't renew my membership unless I get an apology from the club players.

This performance is utter [censored]

worst part of today was the no tackling and every one of their tackles stuck, we were pathetic in that regard, could NOT break a frickin' tackle......pisspoor!!!

worst part of today was the no tackling and every one of their tackles stuck, we were pathetic in that regard, could NOT break a frickin' tackle......pisspoor!!!

What about Garlett jumping up bring down that monster, just grabbed him arund the head, gave away a free, and just clung on, not even impeding the bloke's ability to dispose of the ball, one of the most feeble attempts at a tackle I've seen in some time, flat out embarassing. Other times he just gets brushed asideor doesn't even try, he is weak as [censored]

It was a waste of a day, mate.

Well I've been second guessing myself since I opted out of the North game two weeks ago and stayed home for a family lunch

What about Garlett jumping up bring down that monster, just grabbed him arund the head, gave away a free, and just clung on, not even impeding the bloke's ability to dispose of the ball, one of the most feeble attempts at a tackle I've seen in some time, flat out embarassing. Other times he just gets brushed asideor doesn't even try, he is weak as [censored]

Garlett's really started to spectate around contests lately. Defensive pressure has gone

Bunch of girls being beaten by kids.

Bunch of girls being beaten by kids.

No need to be a [censored]/sexist about it.

EDIT. That was f.log.

Edited August 23, 201510 yr by AdamFarr

I left at half time and tuned in to Gold FM, can't be fcuked anymore!

it's the clubs balls SWYL

time to let every bloke on our list know they haven't earned the right to be untouchable, every single player has two games to prove they deserve to stay.

time for some big calls, we know Roosy can coach, they have a plan, the players either fit into that or they go elsewhere and we get someone in who will.

No other profession would allow such below par performances consistently without jobs being on the line, we should be no different.

Well said... Enough is enough! Club has invested in coaches & resources etc .. About time players did the same...

I don't normally rant and rave and start threads complaining but today is the last straw.

I want an apology from the playing group and a proper explanation to why they decided to give up or not try against the bottom of the club side.

There is no pressure no taclking no running and no leadership.

After years of being a member and watching every game I've had enough and I won't renew my membership unless I get an apology from the club players.

This performance is utter [censored]

A friend who supports another club suggested that this was the playing group calling for the coach to be sacked.

I'm going to the GWS game just to boo and heckle.

Never done it before so I have ten years of [censored] to get off my chest.

Our memberships are paid for a full season. We've effectively pulled the handbrake after round 12 for years. We especially get more pathetic in the last few rounds. Every other team in our position on the ladder is still having a Crack. We didn't even try yesterday. Why would you bother renewing your membership? The players just don't care.

Don't be

I'm embarrassed I support this club

Well I am.

Yours is a laughably naive response.

Welcome to following a football club.

Well I am.

Yours is a laughably naive response.

Welcome to following a football club.

This is not normal though. This is not a football club its a disaster zone. No other clubs supporters have been through such a long period of darkness and ineptness. A club should bring its supporters some joy every now and then... we get none.