Is he actually any good?
Melksham's a better player than Bugg and you guys have all bagged Melksham like he's the worst player of all time.

Is he actually any good?

Melksham's a better player than Bugg.

I agree. Which is why I'd only offer up a 3rd rounder. I think he would be good as a half back flank type of defender. Can play on smalls or mid-sized forwards and also generate run.

Ok then, how about Bugg + Scully and their second rounder for our first rounder?

;)

are you looking to join bbo, moonie?

Bugg and Plowman were talked about last year.

Melksham and Bugg should be worth about the same - third rounder or straight swap for the likes of Toumpas, Watts, Grimes (potentially plus a sweetener).

Both would be in our best 22, but both have got massive spots on them. neither are big possession winners or inside mids, and both have shown to have horrible decision making at times.

If we can do Toumpas for Melksham and Bugg for a third rounder I'd be pleased.

When Silvani reflects on his time at GWS, in spite of the unprecedented number of top end picks, he will surely concede to himself that he picked an incredible number of duds. Kristian Jaksch, now Carlton, may be one of the worst footballers I have ever seen (I'm not joking here - he's putrid) and, for mine, Bugg doesn't seem to have it either. Patton's been a flop, Whitfield hasn't lived up to his hype and then there's phat phil.

are you looking to join bbo, moonie?

He not my preference dc. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Is he actually any good?

Melksham's a better player than Bugg and you guys have all bagged Melksham like he's the worst player of all time.

On ability alone Melksham probably is better then Bugg. But Bugg doesn't have a 2 year suspension hanging over his head, so for that reason i'd rather Bugg if i had to choose between the two.

If our third rounder is used on Melksham maybe our first rounder for Bugg and their first rounder

We only go 2 spots down in the draft order for Bugg and GWS have more draft 'points' to use on their academy selections

Nope. I think there's a decent chance of Curnow slipping to us at 6 depending on what St Kilda do. Not so at 8.

Played his juniors at Gembrook so has a bit of you know what in him. Roos-type of player. Had 33 possies against us last year. Right age and experience.

yes, but wood he be an improvement on bail, McKenzie, or terls?

Easily.

Is he actually any good?

Melksham's a better player than Bugg and you guys have all bagged Melksham like he's the worst player of all time.

Milkshake is two years older with an extra 50 games under his belt. Not the fairest comparison.

On ability alone Melksham probably is better then Bugg. But Bugg doesn't have a 2 year suspension hanging over his head, so for that reason i'd rather Bugg if i had to choose between the two.

Melksham's best would be more damaging than Bugg's. But Bugg's average game is better. Plus Bugg is super consistant. He is not a guy who will go missing during games or seasons. Melksham goes missing all the time.

Bugg is much better defensivly and I would not hesitate to sign him up for 4 years. Even if the majority of our youngsters improve, Bugg would still be able to slot into our best 22.

Melksham would slot into our best 22 next year, but I would expect a number of kids to go flying past him by the third year of his contract.

If he's more defensive orientated (and we have mids like Vince, Viney & even N Jones who can do a job but still hurt teams going the other way) then Bugg sounds like a potential understudy to Jetta as a lock down small who may be able to release Salem further up the ground in the interim. I like the sound of that very much. I've been thinking we needed to shore up the back half smalls, especially with White still on the Rookie List next year. When Jetta & Salem were injured we struggled with small forwards this year IMO.

Of course midfield is still priority number one with a bullet, but as stated elsewhere, we can't be complacent & need more/better everything. He can pinch hit in the midfield too & what I've liked about this bloke when I've seen him is his mongrel, we could use several more dollops of that all over the ground too!

To those who say melksham is better, I've seen plenty of him over the years & am not a fan. Whilst I haven't seen much of Bugg, they are clearly very different players, melksham has played predominately forward of centre as a mid. Very hard to compare players in different positions/roles & stages of their careers. But as I said in the melksham thread, I'll trust our current mob to make the call on either of them.

When Silvani reflects on his time at GWS, in spite of the unprecedented number of top end picks, he will surely concede to himself that he picked an incredible number of duds. Kristian Jaksch, now Carlton, may be one of the worst footballers I have ever seen (I'm not joking here - he's putrid) and, for mine, Bugg doesn't seem to have it either. Patton's been a flop, Whitfield hasn't lived up to his hype and then there's phat phil.

NFI.

Whitfield is worth more than our first rounder, would take him in a heartbeat.

NFI.

Whitfield is worth more than our first rounder, would take him in a heartbeat.

Yeah I agree I laughed reading that clueless .

If he's more defensive orientated (and we have mids like Vince, Viney & even N Jones who can do a job but still hurt teams going the other way) then Bugg sounds like a potential understudy to Jetta as a lock down small who may be able to release Salem further up the ground in the interim. I like the sound of that very much. I've been thinking we needed to shore up the back half smalls, especially with White still on the Rookie List next year. When Jetta & Salem were injured we struggled with small forwards this year IMO.

He wouldnt be an understudy to Jetta, he would comand his own place in our 22. Although he could play the small defender if Jetta is injured.

He is pretty much a rich man's Jack Grimes. Better disposal, better speed, slightly better defensively. Eats steak.

Ralph adding Bugg to the list we are interested in and I've heard it is reasonable info.

I'm not a huge fan but he's another in the 'better than Matt Jones or Terlich column'.

Brings some hardness and could play lock down small defender, tagger or defensive forward.

As said earlier, I've been told by Tommy himself that hes agreed to a contract with us. Although it was acknowledged anything could happen between clubs before the deal goes through but he has committed to us on his end

I'd love to get Tom Bugg to the club. I rate him as a player and think he's been undervalued at GWS because of all the other young budding 'stars' over there. Also reckon he'd be a great personality to have around the club. Does everything required of him and plays his role week in, week out.

As said earlier, I've been told by Tommy himself that hes agreed to a contract with us. Although it was acknowledged anything could happen between clubs before the deal goes through but he has committed to us on his end

Source?

Source?

"Tommy himself"... we share mutual friends. Probably the only time I'll ever have any single ounce of insight into anything behind the scenes in club land

Source?

He just said it....

He just said it....

I think it was a joke

I think it was a joke

Yep, a little weak trade season satire.

The joke was not on you I hasten to add. You have rock solid info and have named the most reliable source possible. The joke is on all those posters that require iron clad sources during this silliest of all seasons

Edited October 5, 20159 yr by binman