Jacks is clearly one very positive and very mentally tough guy. There aren't many guys who have to put up with as much during their career and the way he has handled it has been fantastic. I cannot wait to see him back on the park, because I imagine the joy he'd be feeling at that time would be absolutely amazing.

this is why he's so special in my eyes.. he is one of the few who inspire me these days. he won't back off, & won't throw the towel in. made of special stuff.

I have faith Trenners will play next season and play well.

There are few people I have wanted to see succeed more than Jack.

Poor bloke would be rated as an A grade midfielder by now if his body hadn't failed him. I hope like hell that he can get a good run at it and become the fantastic player that he looked destined to be

I have faith Trenners will play next season and play well.

I hope you are right because that would mean we have two new recruits, Trengove and Petracca (two pick 2's) to add to whomever we pick up this draft/trade period. Could be a very exciting because if we get competitive in the midfield we will start to win games because we are well setup forward and down back I believe.

It's going to be a special match when, not if, he runs on to the field this year.

_{at least he realises that his next season will have a significant impact on his football future, a lot smarter than some of those who played for us this year.}

It only remains to be seen whether he can recover, you only need to look at his first few seasons to understand how the injury effected his running and strength at the contest.

Of course it did, though there will of course be the usual sad suspects who will say he was a dud from the start, or that the captaincy ruined him.

Others of course blame Missen and / or the medical staff for failing to diagnose what is a very difficult to diagnose injury as opposed to a bit of persisting foot soreness that I imagine most if not all who run a lot suffer from time to time. (Rather like the supposed ineptitude that "allowed Hogan to play" at Alice in the pervious preseason when he had some back soreness, again a very common complaint.)

Trengove is my second favourite Demon. I hope he can recover. If he can I genuinely think he can become one of the competition's elite.

But that's just me.

really hope he can come back.

hopefully the lessening of the rotations will make him more valuable.

You don't understand what it's like being asked to fork over your hard-earned whilst blokes earning 5 times what you do strut around looking like they don't give 2 shits.

Nobody is forcing you to fork over anything mate.

Trengove is my second favourite Demon. I hope he can recover. If he can I genuinely think he can become one of the competition's elite.

But that's just me.

Nope, me too.

I'm probably just spit-balling a little but, I have the feeling that if Trengove manages to get back to playing seniors next year, it will mean so much more to the playing group apart from having another very good midfielder available. A Trengove comeback will help galvanise the group and help instill the belief that serious injury does not mean career over, but instead proves that obstacles such as these are part and parcel of your time as a footballer - this is how you deal with them!

Trenners playing footy next year in any capacity will be extremely pleasing to say the least.

He said "best foot forward" without the slightest hint of irony.

I worry that he has 'a lot of somethings without enough of anything' to make it, but then I thought the same about Jetta. I really hope that my predictive success is as good as it was with Nev.

He said "best foot forward" without the slightest hint of irony.

I worry that he has 'a lot of somethings without enough of anything' to make it, but then I thought the same about Jetta. I really hope that my predictive success is as good as it was with Nev.

The only real flaw that I saw in Trengove's game was his speed, and that wasn't always a problem for him. If he can get healthy and regain his speed, he will be a very valuable addition to our side.

In 2011 Trengove averaged 20 possessions per game, kicked 13 goals and had a rating of 89.7. That rating would have placed him third this year. He was in his second year. He played all of that year as a teenager.

He was injury free.

In 2011 Trengove averaged 20 possessions per game, kicked 13 goals and had a rating of 89.7. That rating would have placed him third this year. He was in his second year. He played all of that year as a teenager.

He was injury free.

People forget how good he was.

Was my favourite player. Still is my favourite player.

I loved everything about him from his draft day.

Just a natural footballer who could easily have been in the top echelon of mids within the AFL.

Incredibly unlucky to have endured what he has since being drafted, but I'm holding hope that he'll make up some serious ground in the second half of his career.

As long as he stays injury free over the summer and can complete a full pre-season, I expect him to make a return to our starting 22 next year.

I think it's obvious to say that for the longevity of his career, he needs to be managed very carefully next year. Play him off the forward flank perhaps rotating with Petracca. Give him games off. Just make sure he has a consistent run at it. We shouldn't expect him to be firing. Just contributing.

Next year should be a preparation year for 2017 and onwards really. When you spend this much time off your feet and with a very limited running base, you need more than one pre-season to be at the right level of conditioning. Speed, power, strength, endurance. He'll be behind in all of those areas even after this coming pre-season.

I know I'm guilty at times of looking at scenarios with a 'glass half empty' perspective, but with Trengove and Petracca I'm refusing to be negative. They're such rare talents. Players who suffer injuries like these guys always have to face a more challenging road. But I'm standing strong in thinking times are changing for both the team and individuals. I'm looking at Dan Menzel and Robbie Gray as inspiration. And I hope Trengove and Petracca are too.

I love Jack and I really hope we see his true value and talent as a player in the coming years. Fingers crossed at this stage.

Edited October 7, 20159 yr by stevethemanjordan

In 2011 Trengove averaged 20 possessions per game, kicked 13 goals and had a rating of 89.7. That rating would have placed him third this year. He was in his second year. He played all of that year as a teenager.

He was injury free.

Still massive 'if' for me - I know he looked good, but I'm also conscious that we have been easy beats and I wonder how much other teams really cared about a kid getting a few kicks. So few teams have had to try to beat us for so long. Unless his speed reappears, I think he cannot make it.

I also hope to be wrong.

Still massive 'if' for me - I know he looked good, but I'm also conscious that we have been easy beats and I wonder how much other teams really cared about a kid getting a few kicks. So few teams have had to try to beat us for so long. Unless his speed reappears, I think he cannot make it.

I also hope to be wrong.

I understand this view, but it's not like he had great protection in those first couple of years. Also he's a great contested mark and tackler, which holds him in good stead.

But I absolutely agree about the pace. He's cactus if he can't regain it.

Still massive 'if' for me - I know he looked good, but I'm also conscious that we have been easy beats and I wonder how much other teams really cared about a kid getting a few kicks. So few teams have had to try to beat us for so long. Unless his speed reappears, I think he cannot make it.

I also hope to be wrong.

I agree with stevethemanjordan that Trenners is a natural footballer. Total natural, more so than Scully who was the classic athlete first footballer second draftee. It is for this reason that whilst of course it is optimal he gets his pace back he can cover the loss if it doesn't by becoming an inside mid who, like say a Mitchell, compensates by how well he reads the game.

The problem with this for the dees is we are so so slow across the board.

A fit, injury free treners back next season will be absolutely huge for us. Even more huge if he regains his pace

Even if he doesn't come back with extra speed, he can still play the Beau Waters/Daniel Cross intercept half-back role with his elite marking and footy IQ.

Still massive 'if' for me - I know he looked good, but I'm also conscious that we have been easy beats and I wonder how much other teams really cared about a kid getting a few kicks. So few teams have had to try to beat us for so long. Unless his speed reappears, I think he cannot make it.

I also hope to be wrong.

From memory he was held in very high regard by his peers at other clubs and seen as the next Bartel prior to injury. Abosolute natural footballer. There is a reason why Richmond came knocking...

I understand this view, but it's not like he had great protection in those first couple of years. Also he's a great contested mark and tackler, which holds him in good stead.

But I absolutely agree about the pace. He's cactus if he can't regain it.

Kicking penetration as well.

I would love to see him back playing next year. He deserves a great reception from us supporters if he can manage to get back.

I agree with stevethemanjordan that Trenners is a natural footballer. Total natural, more so than Scully who was the classic athlete first footballer second draftee. It is for this reason that whilst of course it is optimal he gets his pace back he can cover the loss if it doesn't by becoming an inside mid who, like say a Mitchell, compensates by how well he reads the game.

The problem with this for the dees is we are so so slow across the board.

A fit, injury free treners back next season will be absolutely huge for us. Even more huge if he regains his pace

Endurance will just as important as pace with the new restrictions on interchanging next year.