Good point Bbo I apologise to the four legged brigade.

That's OK then - the 'lads' were a little concerned.

They have a trend of running out of legs in the 4th. I reckon I've watched at least 5 of their games this year and every one had them in with a chance at 3QT before being run over.

We were playing a side that lost by 20 goals the week before to Saint Kilda not Hawthorn.

Their selected side had as many un tried kids as ours and still they beat us.

Brisbane only lost by 3 goals to Sydney today. we lost by twice that margin.

It is not Demonland that is the problem it is the donkeys that represent us on match day that is the problem.

They'll absolutely thrash us and it will be shitful and embarrassing. The only way we can win is if they kick 7.18 instead of 18.7.

They'll absolutely thrash us and it will be shitful and embarrassing. The only way we can win is if they kick 7.18 instead of 18.7.

Roos better show them a replay of what happened last year. From memory we went in distinct favourites and it was probably one of the worst losses we had in 2014.

Still have nightmares about Jordie's kick on goal.

Changes aren't relevant this week, just kick straight

Although Howe must go. Ridiculous he keeps getting gifted games and it is making Roos look inept in his decision making.

Roos doesn't look inept with his decision making by playing Howe, but it becomes harder each week for people to say he isn't simply playing Howe to give us some leverage come trade week.

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Unless he already has an offer on the table, Howe's doing himself no favours financially. If GWS offered him $750k last year, surely they can't offer the same this year? They've locked away most of their kids on large contracts since and would have dwindling cap space.

Lions looked good again for 3/4 against good opposition, prob won't run out of legs against us.

Need to clamp Rich and Beams. If Rich plays half back play Cross on him, Viney to beams which leaves Vince to go to who ever is getting dangerous during the game.

Roos doesn't look inept with his decision making by playing Howe, but it becomes harder each week for people to say he isn't simply playing Howe to give us some leverage come trade week.

People keep saying that, but I can't see how playing like poo and getting slammed by the fan base every week increases his trade value. When was the last time he even took a speccie? It also hurts the team with the way he's playing. It's just a little too conspiracy theory-ish for me.

If Roos doesn't want to play him, just get Misson to give some vague story about a hamstring injury and leave it at that.

Unless he already has an offer on the table, Howe's doing himself no favours financially. If GWS offered him $750k last year, surely they can't offer the same this year? They've locked away most of their kids on large contracts since and would have dwindling cap space. He hasn't even taken a screamer for a few weeks.

they looked good tonight.

Rockliff, Beams, Zorko, Hannely will tear us apart if we aren't careful.

Yep, they are very quick as well. We can't (but inevitably will) turn the ball over so much. These guys will kill us.

People keep saying that, but I can't see how playing like poo and getting slammed by the fan base every week increases his trade value. When was the last time he even took a speccie? It also hurts the team with the way he's playing. It's just a little too conspiracy theory-ish for me.

If Roos doesn't want to play him, just get Misson to give some vague story about a hamstring injury and leave it at that.

That I don't have an answer for, but I suspect that plan would eventually come undone or become too suspicious and we'd have less at the bargaining table come trade time. 'Why should we give you a first rounder for Jeremy if he was struggling to get games in a bottom four side?'

Yep, they are very quick as well. We can't (but inevitably will) turn the ball over so much. These guys will kill us.

Have to keep it close and contested, otherwise they will run all over us. We get hammered by the quick sides, but if the game is played on our terms (see the first half against GWS earlier this year), we can dominate. Sustaining it for four quarters is the tough bit.

Are they getting more players back from injury next week? Brisbane are fast but they don't have much going on in defence.

Nonetheless, I rate their side more than the team we played yesterday, so we need to be accurate or we're looking at another defeat.

Was at the Brisbane game this evening, and they have us covered in the middle. They are much stronger with Hanley back in.

In saying that, their talls are rubbish. I think we play McDonald forward, and let Hogan and McDonald try and work over Merrett. Apart from him, they have very little, and I reckon we might be able to get a hold of them that way.

Are they getting more players back from injury next week? Brisbane are fast but they don't have much going on in defence.

Stef Martin back from suspension

We might have to bring in Jamar , Fitzy or Spencer as they have Leunberger too

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Was at the Brisbane game this evening, and they have us covered in the middle. They are much stronger with Hanley back in.

In saying that, their talls are rubbish. I think we play McDonald forward, and let Hogan and McDonald try and work over Merrett. Apart from him, they have very little, and I reckon we might be able to get a hold of them that way.

Christensen was absolute crud tonight, but I'm sure we'll play him into form based on what happened with Cloke and Spudiher. Sounds like we just need to give our forwards a chance, rather than handballing around in circles through the middle.

"Take the first [censored] option!" as Brayshaw emphatically told Jones.

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That I don't have an answer for, but I suspect that plan would eventually come undone or become too suspicious and we'd have less at the bargaining table come trade time. 'Why should we give you a first rounder for Jeremy if he was struggling to get games in a bottom four side?'

I would agree this is pretty much the reasoning.

I don't buy into the theory that Roos is playing him for this reason, but Howe's trade value arguably goes down further by him being dropped than by letting him play poorly. It's more difficult to mount a case for a player deemed not good enough to make the best 22. Henderson isn't playing at his best right now, but he's still getting game time and his trade value will remain high at the end of the year.

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Brisbane's key forwards are Staker, McStay and Bourke. Combined today for 0 goals.

In fact, their goals all came from midfielders - Zorko, Beams, Adcock and Hanley.

Clearly this game is going to be won or lost in the midfield. That's all Brisbane has. If their mids are on top of ours we're going to be in trouble.

Stef's back? Cool.

I want to be around when the hand wringing starts.

Bring it.

Hahaha the old "don't bother replying" line hey.... Must be written on that last straw you're clutching for

You can PM me and stop wasting everybodies time reading through the thread because I aint clutching at anything. but please explain your point again in a PM of course what Vanders did to "earn a call up" as I believe you refer to it as to the reason why we can't discuss changes prior to Casey playing

Spencer in.

Need two ruckmen.

If we win and it is a big if "No singing of the club song" 4 years now of failing to put two wins together and god knows is it 10 years of failing to put 3 wins together. Win next week and pat each other on the back and immediately start focusing on the Saints the following week

Roos better show them a replay of what happened last year. From memory we went in distinct favourites and it was probably one of the worst losses we had in 2014.

Still have nightmares about Jordie's kick on goal.

No one deserves the punishment of having to watch that game again. One of the worst in the history of AFL...

Roos doesn't look inept with his decision making by playing Howe, but it becomes harder each week for people to say he isn't simply playing Howe to give us some leverage come trade week.

As much as I want Howe to be dropped, he is likely to stay in because of his versatility and there's not really a better replacement

No one deserves the punishment of having to watch that game again. One of the worst in the history of AFL...

I was there!! Thanks fror the reminder about Jordie's kick for goal. Not!!