C & B to avoid playing more sides who are above us so often we have to start winning. Then we will be playing more games against sides below us and not as many against sides above us.

Yeah. I heard someone complaining that Hawthorn (last year) never played anyone above them, while we always did! :-)

In: Grimes, Terlich, Spencer, Michie, Tyson, ANB, Stretch

Out: Garland (inj), vandenBerg (inj), Newton, Jones

I thought you were joking when I first read this. Terlich? Really?

With Hickey out you would expect Goddard to play, any one know if they have been rucking him in the seconds?

If not who will be their second ruck?

Do u realise we are full of excuses and have been for the last 8 years?

I just want us to win a game which we should win.

We all agree. However, the question is "should" the appropriate word when half the team has been run over by a bus. Frustrating as it is, sometimes excuses are reasons.

Excuses this far out is weakness.

It's not like they were in a war, they lost football games FFS.

If they are still scarred, then they are done, get rid of them.

I'd say that is Roosey's way of letting Spencil kno that he is still a required player. At least until seasons end and Gawn has been given a decent run to see whether he's an option as well.

Roos is no doubt looking through all options at Casey for remainder of season before his next clean out and Gawn should get a decent crack at it over the next month or so, just like he did with Spencil.

Look, I thought that too, but you could do that by talking to him in your office. And without publicly starting that Jamar, despite playing better than Spencer, is clearly your third ruck now. Surely that's a bit insulting to him.

To be honest I will be gutted if ANB doesn't get a run. Perfect game for him to wear the green vest. Then rest him against Geelong and give him some more run at Casey. He'll get a feel for the pace of AFL footy and can go back and work on his game. Would also like to see Stretch in the mix.

I thought you were joking when I first read this. Terlich? Really?

Grimes and Terlich are both in to replace Garland who I think has been very solid this year. Will be missed. You would think Grimes has that spot. Hopefully they are trying to build confidence in Terlich again as it would be good to have him and grimes battling for the backline reserve role.

I would actually really like to see ANB play the whole game. He is a player that strives on getting his hands on the ball as much as possible. With Vandenberg out its a good opportunity to get some AFL level match time into ANB. Because of his lack of preseason and injury etc. they won't be able to play him as much as Brayshaw. But bringing him in for stints like they might be doing with Stretch is a good idea.

Hope Billly Stretch wears the yellow vest.

I must be the only one on this board who likes Terlich as a player. I hope he plays, and plays well.

It amazes me that so many paid up members of the Lumumba fan club are so anti-Terlich. Their strengths and weaknesses are very similar, the main difference is that Lumumba has played 200+ games and gets paid a fortune, whilst Terlich has played about 30 games and gets paid peanuts.

I'm hoping for a bench of Grimes, Terlich, Neal-Bullen and Riley (sub).

Worried about this game. Saints have over-performed for most of the season imo. Interesting that the Saints are favourites. No one has faith in Melbourne, and rightly so.

To be honest I will be gutted if ANB doesn't get a run. Perfect game for him to wear the green vest. Then rest him against Geelong and give him some more run at Casey. He'll get a feel for the pace of AFL footy and can go back and work on his game. Would also like to see Stretch in the mix.

Honestly thats a stupid idea. Couldnt think of a more worse idea to use idea to use a young player.

I must be the only one on this board who likes Terlich as a player. I hope he plays, and plays well.

It amazes me that so many paid up members of the Lumumba fan club are so anti-Terlich. Their strengths and weaknesses are very similar, the main difference is that Lumumba has played 200+ games and gets paid a fortune, whilst Terlich has played about 30 games and gets paid peanuts.

I'm hoping for a bench of Grimes, Terlich, Neal-Bullen and Riley (sub).

Would agree on this bench with Terlich as the Sub!

I must be the only one on this board who likes Terlich as a player. I hope he plays, and plays well.

It amazes me that so many paid up members of the Lumumba fan club are so anti-Terlich. Their strengths and weaknesses are very similar, the main difference is that Lumumba has played 200+ games and gets paid a fortune, whilst Terlich has played about 30 games and gets paid peanuts.

I'm hoping for a bench of Grimes, Terlich, Neal-Bullen and Riley (sub).

Lumumba is a smarter footballer than Terlich.

Lumumba isn't a great kick but he is better than Terlich.

Lumumba can push forward, and can kick goals, Terlich can't.

Lumumba can lead, and direct players on gameday, Terlich can't, or doesn't.

Lamumba can play on smalls and talls due to his height, jump and pace. Terlich can't.

Lamumba is proven on the big stage, and can perform in high pressure games.

etc. etc. etc.

The danger players for us to give plenty of attention to for the Saints are Armitage, Stephen, Riewoldt and Bruce.

They have 2 of the best mids in the comp who potentially could tear us apart. I'm glad that little rodent Schneider isn't playing because he can be difficult to contain.

I reckon Vince will go to Armitage and McDonald to Riewoldt.

We need to hurt them with strong tackling that's why I believe Reilly will get a game, and probably not as sub, who I believe will be ANB.

If Terlich gets picked ahead of Grimes I think Jack can start packing his bags.

The bench for me should be Grimes, Riley, Stretch and ANB ( sub )

I must be the only one on this board who likes Terlich as a player. I hope he plays, and plays well.

It amazes me that so many paid up members of the Lumumba fan club are so anti-Terlich. Their strengths and weaknesses are very similar, the main difference is that Lumumba has played 200+ games and gets paid a fortune, whilst Terlich has played about 30 games and gets paid peanuts.

I'm hoping for a bench of Grimes, Terlich, Neal-Bullen and Riley (sub).

If you read the Casey match reports Terlichs form has been very ordinary.

We don't need any more turnover specialists

Would agree on this bench with Terlich as the Sub!

You slag off Toumpas but you want Terlich in the team?

You slag off Toumpas but you want Terlich in the team?

Delusional at its finest aint it.

The danger players for us to give plenty of attention to for the Saints are Armitage, Stephen, Riewoldt and Bruce.

They have 2 of the best mids in the comp who potentially could tear us apart. I'm glad that little rodent Schneider isn't playing because he can be difficult to contain.

I reckon Vince will go to Armitage and McDonald to Riewoldt.

We need to hurt them with strong tackling that's why I believe Reilly will get a game, and probably not as sub, who I believe will be ANB.

If Terlich gets picked ahead of Grimes I think Jack can start packing his bags.

The bench for me should be Grimes, Riley, Stretch and ANB ( sub )

Could add Montagna to that list. He usually plays well against us...

Will be interesting to see who takes Bruce - he's been far more dangerous as a goalkicker for them this year than Riewoldt so I wouldn't be surprised to see TMac start there or get moved on to him if Fitzy/Dunn aren't getting the job done.

Garlo's one of my favourites, but were St Kilda playing the resting ruck him being out wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

This is now the third week in a row that clubs who play two rucks opt to go for one against us, and finally we have reacted (forcibly) by taking a tall out of our defence.

McDonald on Roo is ideal, and hopefully Dunn can do a job on the in-form Bruce on his 150th.

Hoping Vince goes head to head with Armo, old fashioned type of thing rather than a tag.

I wouldn't mind Viney following Steven around though, but would also like our mids to play their own game rather than negate a team we need to beat.

Hogan needs a big one, and I wonder whether we might tell him that and then give him a double rest against Geelong with the bye coming up.

Will be interesting to see who takes Bruce - he's been far more dangerous as a goalkicker for them this year than Riewoldt so I wouldn't be surprised to see TMac start there or get moved on to him if Fitzy/Dunn aren't getting the job done.

Riewoldt will make absolute mince meat out of Dunn or Fitzpatrick if they tried to follow him around. Roo is the perfect match up for McDonald, roaming forward who can be forced wide. He's too good a mark to force a regular spoil out of, unlike a Jeremy Cameron, but TMac will need to get him in the wrong spots.

I must be the only one on this board who likes Terlich as a player. I hope he plays, and plays well.

It amazes me that so many paid up members of the Lumumba fan club are so anti-Terlich. Their strengths and weaknesses are very similar, the main difference is that Lumumba has played 200+ games and gets paid a fortune, whilst Terlich has played about 30 games and gets paid peanuts.

I'm hoping for a bench of Grimes, Terlich, Neal-Bullen and Riley (sub).

Would be a good idea to watch them both before you say that.

Both butcher the ball from defence sure, but Prince 420 actually runs with it and breaks lines when he's not show boating in front of his old team mates/decides to front up.

As you can see, I'm no Lumumba fan; but he's much better than Terlich.

And I don't even mind Terlich that much.

Says it all.

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