The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

On 4/1/2018 at 12:41 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

 I just question the validity of it. 

 

On 4/1/2018 at 12:47 AM, Beetle said:

Im clearly a troll and have been working up to this post in my 11 years of membership.

Not just the validity, more the chinese-whispers nature of it. I would imagine that every player on every list in the AFL (of any quality) gets discussed in trades, every year. Even when on long term contracts, if they're good enough, their management and the clubs' management would be remiss NOT to discuss them, even years before they might become available for a trade.

In all likelihood, in one of these phone calls (of which there will likely be hundreds over Jesse's career) the club said that the price on Jesse's head is something ridiculous like 2 first rounders and an All Australian player. After that, it gets around that the demons are "shopping" him, despite the fact they tried to place a price on his head no club would agree to. Then after that, the rumours start on internet chatrooms, and the details get lost.

Noone should target Beetle for raising the point, but the onus is on us to treat it as what it is. A rumour sometimes is just a rumour.

[mattjm 151]

I called him a petulant child last year... it was a phase

Edited May 29, 2018 by mattjm

[DV8 2,271]

On 5/28/2018 at 3:53 AM, monoccular said:

Does anyone really think that he could possibly enjoy playing under Ross Lyon with his 6-8 goal a game forward line? (Could anyone for that matter - doesn’t look like anyone does at the moment)

Seriously, what a special talent who appears to be enjoying every moment (well almost, other than the after siren play on brain fade)

Well done Jesse - we love you and look forward to many years kicking multiple goals and assisting Demon teammates kick many more. 

Only IF he was desperate to get back to WA. 

He's looking quite happy at present and hopefully will continue to do so. The extra tall's seem to work well ttogether, with the athleticism they all posses.

[DeeZee 7,387]

I remember when David King rated Stringer higher than Jesse.

What a Goose!

[Deestroy All 14,265]

39 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

I remember when David King rated Stringer higher than Jesse.

What a Goose!

On The Couch had a running poll all year where they’d ask each guest if they preferred Stringer or Hogan. 

Ha... hahaha. 

[whatwhat say what 22,746]

22 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

On The Couch had a running poll all year where they’d ask each guest if they preferred Stringer or Hogan. 

Ha... hahaha. 

funnily enough, you could argue hogan has become the sort of player stringer was - capable of getting up and down the ground, playing thru the midfield, impacting the scoreboard, bringing his teammates into the play, taking great contested grabs, and generally dominating as a modern day forward

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

48 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

On The Couch had a running poll all year where they’d ask each guest if they preferred Stringer or Hogan. 

Ha... hahaha. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[What 18,810]

Nearest the pin, how many goals will Jesse end up kicking in 2018? Currently on 26 goals in 10 games.

I'm going with 71....  reckon he will kick a a few big bags in the back half of the season.  Thats just for the home and away season , if we play finals (which its looking like we will)  he could give 80 a crack.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

21 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Nearest the pin, how many goals will Jesse end up kicking in 2018? Currently on 26 goals in 10 games.

I'm going with 71....  reckon he will kick a a few big bags in the back half of the season.  Thats just for the home and away season , if we play finals (which its looking like we will)  he could give 80 a crack.

71 goals and if he continues to average 20 disposals that’s one hell of a season. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,503]

Nice to hear...

"I've lived here (Melbourne) for about six years now and I'd almost call it home," Hogan told AFL.com.au.

"I still love going back to Perth obviously. But with each year I stay here, it's probably that little bit further away from going back to Perth."

 

 

[Deestroy All 14,265]

39 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Nice to hear...

"I've lived here (Melbourne) for about six years now and I'd almost call it home," Hogan told AFL.com.au.

"I still love going back to Perth obviously. But with each year I stay here, it's probably that little bit further away from going back to Perth."

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-31/jesse-hogan

 

[ding 5,126]

"Not actively contemplating" going back to Perth is hardly committing....

THATS IT, HES GONE !!!!

Time to make a huge play for a replacement. Lynch is my tip. The Gold Coast one.

etc etc

 

 

(Yeah im only having a lend)

[What 18,810]

Demon for life.

Watch out Neita,  your goalkicking record might get knocked off by the Hulk.

[Nasher 33,614]

57 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Nice to hear...

"I've lived here (Melbourne) for about six years now and I'd almost call it home," Hogan told AFL.com.au.

"I still love going back to Perth obviously. But with each year I stay here, it's probably that little bit further away from going back to Perth."

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-31/jesse-hogan

 

There were plenty of wise heads on this forum in the early years who said this was how it would pan out, in that if we could convince him to stay in the early years he’d eventually grow out of the idea of returning to Perth. A strong bond with his teammates, a Victorian girlfriend, a club that has actively supported him during his more homesick periods and a bit of team success would (and has) created a sense of home in Melbourne. In my opinion the risk of him going has now completely evaporated.

It may resurface when he’s a 30 year old, 200 game player looking to transition his life and spend his last contract at “home”, but by then with 3 flags and 2 Brownlows to his name, I’ll happy wave him goodbye with thanks, knowing he was a loyal Demon when it mattered.

[azazael 34]

59 minutes ago, Nasher said:

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-31/jesse-hogan

 

link on afl.com now comes up with page out of bounds.

 

??????

 

[binman 42,912]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

There were plenty of wise heads on this forum in the early years who said this was how it would pan out, in that if we could convince him to stay in the early years he’d eventually grow out of the idea of returning to Perth. A strong bond with his teammates, a Victorian girlfriend, a club that has actively supported him during his more homesick periods and a bit of team success would (and has) created a sense of home in Melbourne. In my opinion the risk of him going has now completely evaporated.

It may resurface when he’s a 30 year old, 200 game player looking to transition his life and spend his last contract at “home”, but by then with 3 flags and 2 Brownlows to his name, I’ll happy wave him goodbye with thanks, knowing he was a loyal Demon when it mattered.

Forwards don't win brownlows, mids do.

Wait a minute... what about forwards who cover more ground than most mids, averages 20 plus possessions, takes bundles of marks all over the ground and kicks 2-3 goals a game?

[Nasher 33,614]

8 minutes ago, binman said:

Forwards don't win brownlows, mids do.

Wait a minute... what about forwards who cover more ground than most mids, averages 20 plus possessions, takes bundles of marks all over the ground and kicks 2-3 goals a game?

Exactly. Huge chance to poll very well this year if current form continues.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Forwards don't win brownlows, mids do.

Wait a minute... what about forwards who cover more ground than most mids, averages 20 plus possessions, takes bundles of marks all over the ground and kicks 2-3 goals a game?

 it never won Nick Riewoldt Brownlow

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

On 5/3/2015 at 11:49 AM, chook fowler said:

Tony Lockett

The Ox

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

3 hours ago, Nasher said:

There were plenty of wise heads on this forum in the early years who said this was how it would pan out, in that if we could convince him to stay in the early years he’d eventually grow out of the idea of returning to Perth. A strong bond with his teammates, a Victorian girlfriend, a club that has actively supported him during his more homesick periods and a bit of team success would (and has) created a sense of home in Melbourne. In my opinion the risk of him going has now completely evaporated.

It may resurface when he’s a 30 year old, 200 game player looking to transition his life and spend his last contract at “home”, but by then with 3 flags and 2 Brownlows to his name, I’ll happy wave him goodbye with thanks, knowing he was a loyal Demon when it mattered.

The bloody niggling media - anything for a story that increases circulation and advertising revenue. Perth may well be a wonderful place for Jesse to holiday, chill out, muck about. Fantastic for him. Melbourne is a great place for him to work, train, develop, get rich and plan for the non-football days that will come in just over a decade. We, the people of the east, love him for what he has done and what he is doing, and will do in the future, in Melbourne, with Melbourne and one day, as the captain of Melbourne. Hang cool, Jesse, you are doing fine. I like the way you do not even respond to these journalistic suppositions.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

Melbourne’s cool I spose..........if you wanna get mugged. #Perthrules.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[What 18,810]

21 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Melbourne’s cool I spose..........if you wanna get mugged. #Perthrules.

Can only imagine the sort of filth you get up to at Northbridge in the wee hours of the morning, ET.

And please don't reel off a list, this is a family forum.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,294]

After watching the game live I thought Gus was clear BOG but having watched the replay, Hogans game was enormous. The ground he covers is remarkable, almost Riewoldt like already and he must be an absolute nightmare to match up against for the opposition.

He`s in rare form and will only improve.

[Deemania since 56 6,634]

On 4/3/2018 at 3:07 PM, tbrookes3 said:

Can anyone suggest why Jesse might struggle to kick further than 40 odd metres? He seems to have the right build for it??

Not sure but some days it is evident. I think it may be related to a consistent lack of follow-through, but his field kicking is doing just fine at the moment so it is all a conundrum, of sorts. His scoring rate is great, too.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

On 5/30/2018 at 11:21 AM, Petraccattack said:

Nearest the pin, how many goals will Jesse end up kicking in 2018? Currently on 26 goals in 10 games.

I'm going with 71....  reckon he will kick a a few big bags in the back half of the season.  Thats just for the home and away season , if we play finals (which its looking like we will)  he could give 80 a crack.

How will 80 rank among our major goalkickers since the golden age of FFs?

Neita kicked 82-ish when he won the Coleman...

Holy smokes just looked... Going backwards from 2017...

42, 41, 44, 20, 28, 29, 40, 55, 29, 26, 42, 68, 73, 69, 65 and in 2002 Neitz won it with 82. Best before that was Bennett with 87 in 1990... then before that no-one has kicked more than 80 other than Fanning in 1947 (97), and 1944 (87)... and Norm 3 times in the 40s.

Blimey.