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11 hours ago, leucopogon said:

Don't forget that sides have won flags with key position forwards of the likes of Barry Hall, Quentin Lynch, and Adam Hunter, Chris Dawes, and Travis Cloke. Its all about the midfield and forward 50 pressure.

I guess what I mean is that 'your midfield' refers to a group of 5-10 players (depending on genuine depth) as a collective that make a premiership side. That means any one of them, or the loss of any one of them, is of much less vale than a player like a Hogan.

Ps you forgot Cam Mooney. FMD.

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    58 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

    I guess what I mean is that 'your midfield' refers to a group of 5-10 players (depending on genuine depth) as a collective that make a premiership side. That means any one of them, or the loss of any one of them, is of much less vale than a player like a Hogan.

    Ps you forgot Cam Mooney. FMD.

    I must be missing something...

    I actually don't understand the argument on Hall, Lynch,Hunter, Dawes and Cloke.

    If anything they actually prove you point ( excepting Dawes and Hunter).

    Hall in his premiership year (2005) took a massive 206 marks and kicked 80 goals ! He was AA, and AFLCA player of the year (2nd in their B&F)

    Lynch in  his premiership year (2006) took 143 marks and kicked 65 goals ( 7th in their B&F)

    Cloke took a whopping 171 marks in his premiership year of 2010 and kicked 38 goals but also kicked 40 behinds 

    Hunter still kicked 29 goals in their premiership year but was a swingman at both ends of the ground

    Dawes was second fiddle to Cloke and he still kicked 30 goals for the year.

    Big power forwards like Hall, Lynch, Jono Brown, Franklin, Roughead  and Hawkins have been instrumental in getting their teams premierships.

     

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    In the big picture it's a case of simply needing ppl to kick goals. This may or may not include Hogan. I don't really care as long as the TEAM performs.Staying or going, will be what it is.

    He'd be silly though to pack his bags and tie his swag elsewhere just as we hit our stride.

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    45 minutes ago, nutbean said:

    I must be missing something...

    I actually don't understand the argument on Hall, Lynch,Hunter, Dawes and Cloke.

    If anything they actually prove you point ( excepting Dawes and Hunter).

    Hall in his premiership year (2005) took a massive 206 marks and kicked 80 goals ! He was AA, and AFLCA player of the year (2nd in their B&F)

    Lynch in  his premiership year (2006) took 143 marks and kicked 65 goals ( 7th in their B&F)

    Cloke took a whopping 171 marks in his premiership year of 2010 and kicked 38 goals but also kicked 40 behinds 

    Hunter still kicked 29 goals in their premiership year but was a swingman at both ends of the ground

    Dawes was second fiddle to Cloke and he still kicked 30 goals for the year.

    Big power forwards like Hall, Lynch, Jono Brown, Franklin, Roughead  and Hawkins have been instrumental in getting their teams premierships.

     

    This is highly underrated, Hunter virtually played CHB for the whole season and kicked 29 goals.

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    Can you block a thread????

    I don't think I can stand this for the next 1 and a1/2 years.

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    18 minutes ago, Bossdog said:

    Can you block a thread????

    I don't think I can stand this for the next 1 and a1/2 years.

    Pretty sure it won't be 1.5 years. Think we will have a result in the next few months.

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    Roos was on SEN this morning and was naturally asked about Hogan. He trotted out the club line that both parties thought it was best to put discussions on hold until the end of the season. Francis Leach picked him up on the "both parties thought it was best", and Roos came out with the standard, "he's contracted till the end of 2017, he loves it at Melbourne and the players love him".

    If it was about money and length of contract, that could easily be made public and answered with "the club and Jessie's management need to sought these things out at seasons' end". It's clearly not just about money, and the CBA argument is garbage.

    What I don't understand is why WCE have never been mentioned if it's a go-home factor? Every club would bend over backwards to make room for a potentially elite player. It could become another Buddy/GWS scenario.

     

     

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    I just get the feeling that we are very comfortable with this situation and they clearly know a lot more, than we all know.

     

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    19 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    Roos was on SEN this morning and was naturally asked about Hogan. He trotted out the club line that both parties thought it was best to put discussions on hold until the end of the season. Francis Leach picked him up on the "both parties thought it was best", and Roos came out with the standard, "he's contracted till the end of 2017, he loves it at Melbourne and the players love him".

    If it was about money and length of contract, that could easily be made public and answered with "the club and Jessie's management need to sought these things out at seasons' end". It's clearly not just about money, and the CBA argument is garbage.

    What I don't understand is why WCE have never been mentioned if it's a go-home factor? Every club would bend over backwards to make room for a potentially elite player. It could become another Buddy/GWS scenario.

     

     

    exactly. 

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    On 5/13/2016 at 2:15 PM, Redleg said:

    I just get the feeling that we are very comfortable with this situation and they clearly know a lot more, than we all know.

     

    Definitely! I don't believe he would have entered negotiations to start with if he was tempted to leave. 

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    2 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

    Definitely! I don't believe he would have entered negotiations to start with if he was tempted to leave. 

    He hasn't.

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    23 hours ago, mo64 said:

    He hasn't.

    He did, they were talking about a new deal over the pre season. 

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    Just now, Peter Griffen said:

    He did, they were talking about a new deal over the pre season. 

    Not sure about that. Melbourne definitely wanted to start negotiations, but Hogan's management deferred.

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    59 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    Roos was on SEN this morning and was naturally asked about Hogan. He trotted out the club line that both parties thought it was best to put discussions on hold until the end of the season. Francis Leach picked him up on the "both parties thought it was best", and Roos came out with the standard, "he's contracted till the end of 2017, he loves it at Melbourne and the players love him".

    If it was about money and length of contract, that could easily be made public and answered with "the club and Jessie's management need to sought these things out at seasons' end". It's clearly not just about money, and the CBA argument is garbage.

    What I don't understand is why WCE have never been mentioned if it's a go-home factor? Every club would bend over backwards to make room for a potentially elite player. It could become another Buddy/GWS scenario.

     

     

    In addition...

    If Roos believed he was going he'd fattening Hogan up for a trade by trotting out the lines like:

    'He's the best young player in the league...'

    'A required player...'

    'Very special, once in a generation talent...'

     

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    On 5/13/2016 at 2:36 PM, mo64 said:

    Not sure about that. Melbourne definitely wanted to start negotiations, but Hogan's management deferred.

    agree to disagree i think. 

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    56 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

    agree to disagree i think. 

    I like you as a poster Peter but that's incredibly naive if you think that it wasn't the club's preference to have Hogan tied down by now.

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    8 hours ago, Ted Fidge said:

    Yes, but have you got a giant ferris wheel overlooking an industrial area?

    you've got me stumped there Ted

     

     

    what's an Industrial area?

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    If he left and we got a top 2 pick and one of their best players under 23 would it affect our prospects?

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    Lots of 'tea leave reading' going on here.

    It's just ignorant extrapolation.

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    I repeat my plea to the mods:  Can we please have a thread  labelled something like "Hogan - will he re-sign" and another where we can discuss everything else about him.  So we don't have to wade through all this speculation if we just want to know/discuss other things about him.  Pretty please.....

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    On 5/13/2016 at 4:11 PM, Members' Wing said:

    I like you as a poster Peter but that's incredibly naive if you think that it wasn't the club's preference to have Hogan tied down by now.

    I'm sure it was the clubs preference, that doesn't mean that talks didn't start and Hogan and his manager decided to put them on hold after.

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    OK, it's time to preserve what's left of this once-great thread and resurrect the good vibes that permeated it at the beginning.

    All contract talk should go in the Jesse Hogan Panic Room, a new thread where you can convince yourself and others that's he's staying or going based on facial expressions, astrology & tarot card readings, conversations with taxi drivers and media beat-ups.

    Please leave this thread for footy talk and all non-contract-related discussion.

     

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