rhaz 342 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 He has played what, like 11 games? He's not Neitz for christ sake. At least not yet. Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 The ball is just being bombed in like a bag of [censored]. Delivery has been poor the last 4-5 weeks if not longer. 3 Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 There are actually people who want Hogan dropped to the twos? Like, seriously? You'd be cracking the shits as well with constant, moronic bombs into your forward line. Quote
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca. 8 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca. Extreme hyperbole is a sport now? Quote
dazzledavey36 56,336 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Atleast he keeps his record of a goal in every game this year. Quote
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Extreme hyperbole is a sport now? What part if it is innacurate? Whip the knives out you snivelling losers, cos we lost a match and the next big thing didnt save us Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca. Sorry but who here is punching on the kid? Nobody here said anything about him having a bad game and being a bad player His attitude today was worrying, didn't chase, dropped his head, poor second efforts. Sometimes delivery to him will be poor, that's how it goes. He needs to learn to deal with it. As much as Dawes is pretty ordinary, at least his attitude is first grade. He always holds his head up and tries to lead. Hogan needs to follow his lead in that respect 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 What part if it is innacurate? Whip the knives out you snivelling losers, cos we lost a match and the next big thing didnt save us All of your previous post is over exaggerated. If you need more explaination than that, no one can help you. 1 Quote
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Sorry but who here is punching on the kid? Nobody here said anything about him having a bad game and being a bad player His attitude today was worrying, didn't chase, dropped his head, poor second efforts. Sometimes delivery to him will be poor, that's how it goes. He needs to learn to deal with it. As much as Dawes is pretty ordinary, at least his attitude is first grade. He always holds his head up and tries to lead. Hogan needs to follow his lead in that respect I'm all for calling a spade a spade Its just horrendous how quickly the knives come out around here Maybe I am just more shattered by the fact that situation has been created in order for you backstabbers to come out so quickly Maybe it is the case that we as a club are completely and utterly incapable of taking the brightest talent and developing them History certainly shapes us that way 1 Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I think we all know he can play, but today was a learning curve for him. Delivery was so bad, that at times it seemed to me that he was confused as to what he was supposed to do to rectify things and make a contribution. Maybe this led into a drop in confidence and I addition Max falling all over him must have made it a fairly ordinary day for him. Coaches will work through it with him. Hope that at some time during the week he says stuff it, that's not going to happen again. I think he's got the talent and constitution to deal with today and drag a few positives out of it. A lot of his game today was influenced by his team mates IMO and not in a positive way. Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 God help us if this boy leaves our club, because nothing will save the MFC if that happens. 3 Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Idk. I think he is way overrated atm. Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Idk. I think he is way overrated atm. Edited July 11, 2015 by Lamashtu Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 He's still a kid and everyone expects him to be a star already. Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Our forward 50 entries were generally hurried and for the most part, shiteful. Hardly the sort of stuff a young forward can do much with. Quote
Adam The God 30,735 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Oh a first year tall forward how a bad day in slippery conditions with team mates bombing the ball to horrible spots all day? What a friggin shock. I think people are referring to Hogan's attitude, more than his ability to impact the contest. But to an extent I agree. He's still gonna be a beauty, but this prima dona stuff has to be looked at. Particularly, if it's going to impact on his ability to chase and work like say Jeff Garlett (9 tackles and most on the ground today). Tough crowd. First bad game of his career. He's a competitive lad, don't reckon anyone will be more filthy than himself. Nothing to see here. Not sure about that. I think he was worse last week. But there's always a caveat. As above, he's a first year key forward. Quote
Adam The God 30,735 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 The ball is just being bombed in like a bag of [censored]. Delivery has been poor the last 4-5 weeks if not longer. The delivery to him against St Kilda was very good. He had two from Jones on a plate, very early. He did kick 5 goals, so obviously, when we clean up our delivery to him, he will really start to impact games. He still needs to bring that forward pressure though. 2 Quote
chook fowler 19,773 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Hate people getting stuck into first years players. He was not the problem today. 6 Quote
Buzzy 992 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Consistent attitude and effort is all part of the learning process. He'll learn from today. Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Tough crowd. First bad game of his career. He's a competitive lad, don't reckon anyone will be more filthy than himself. Nothing to see here. I agree, although I'd say it's his 3rd bad game in the last month (Pies, WCE and Bombers). Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Hogan shouldn't be immune from criticism. However, it should be put in perspective. If you're going to have a go at Hogan, you should also be having a go at the senior players yet again not playing well (how many of Dawes, Cross, Vince, Jones, Dunn, Garland, Lumumba and Howe played good games today?). FWIW Hogan acted 'sulkily' far too much for my liking today. He is going to get beaten every now and again in his career; Hurley's in AA form, Hogan's not the first forward he's had the better of. But I didn't like how Hogan didn't really look to put in second efforts today, which is something he's done this year quite well. Bad game, but not even close to a concern, let alone one of the more serious concerns. 1 Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Criticism should be directed at the blokes who just bombed the ball in, hacked it on their boot and hoped for the best. Poor Jesse Hogan. I'd direct anger towards the midfield, and to a lesser extent the coaches box for letting it happen for 4 quarters. Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Criticism should be directed at the blokes who just bombed the ball in, hacked it on their boot and hoped for the best. Poor Jesse Hogan. I'd direct anger towards the midfield, and to a lesser extent the coaches box for letting it happen for 4 quarters. 4 quarters ....? Happens every game. And the captain's one of the worst offenders. Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 4 quarters ....? Happens every game. And the captain's one of the worst offenders. They just don't lower their eyes, Jones never really has. Vince certainly doesn't. I understand it was a slippery day, but too often when they had space they just bombed it in. The midfield might've had reasonably good stats, but it is a day they'd rather forget IMO. Quote
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