He has played what, like 11 games? He's not Neitz for christ sake.

At least not yet.

The ball is just being bombed in like a bag of [censored]. Delivery has been poor the last 4-5 weeks if not longer.

There are actually people who want Hogan dropped to the twos? Like, seriously?

You'd be cracking the shits as well with constant, moronic bombs into your forward line.

Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca.

Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca.

Extreme hyperbole is a sport now?

Atleast he keeps his record of a goal in every game this year.

Extreme hyperbole is a sport now?

What part if it is innacurate?

Whip the knives out you snivelling losers, cos we lost a match and the next big thing didnt save us

Here it is folks! Congratulations! After being lauded as the greatest thing in a generation to come to the MFC, 11 games in Jesse Hogan has offcially received 'whipping boy' status. Following the trend of Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Watts, Trengove, Scully, Toumpas and more, Hogan is now apparently worthy of becoming the punching bag for supporters upset after a loss. Well done lads! Can't wait to see who is next, must be Brayshaw, followed by Petracca.

Sorry but who here is punching on the kid?

Nobody here said anything about him having a bad game and being a bad player

His attitude today was worrying, didn't chase, dropped his head, poor second efforts.

Sometimes delivery to him will be poor, that's how it goes. He needs to learn to deal with it.

As much as Dawes is pretty ordinary, at least his attitude is first grade. He always holds his head up and tries to lead.

Hogan needs to follow his lead in that respect

What part if it is innacurate?

Whip the knives out you snivelling losers, cos we lost a match and the next big thing didnt save us

All of your previous post is over exaggerated. If you need more explaination than that, no one can help you.

Sorry but who here is punching on the kid?

Nobody here said anything about him having a bad game and being a bad player

His attitude today was worrying, didn't chase, dropped his head, poor second efforts.

Sometimes delivery to him will be poor, that's how it goes. He needs to learn to deal with it.

As much as Dawes is pretty ordinary, at least his attitude is first grade. He always holds his head up and tries to lead.

Hogan needs to follow his lead in that respect

I'm all for calling a spade a spade

Its just horrendous how quickly the knives come out around here

Maybe I am just more shattered by the fact that situation has been created in order for you backstabbers to come out so quickly

Maybe it is the case that we as a club are completely and utterly incapable of taking the brightest talent and developing them

History certainly shapes us that way

I think we all know he can play, but today was a learning curve for him. Delivery was so bad, that at times it seemed to me that he was confused as to what he was supposed to do to rectify things and make a contribution. Maybe this led into a drop in confidence and I addition Max falling all over him must have made it a fairly ordinary day for him. Coaches will work through it with him.

Hope that at some time during the week he says stuff it, that's not going to happen again. I think he's got the talent and constitution to deal with today and drag a few positives out of it.

A lot of his game today was influenced by his team mates IMO and not in a positive way.

God help us if this boy leaves our club, because nothing will save the MFC if that happens.

Idk. I think he is way overrated atm.

Idk. I think he is way overrated atm.

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He's still a kid and everyone expects him to be a star already.

Our forward 50 entries were generally hurried and for the most part, shiteful.

Hardly the sort of stuff a young forward can do much with.

Oh a first year tall forward how a bad day in slippery conditions with team mates bombing the ball to horrible spots all day? What a friggin shock.

I think people are referring to Hogan's attitude, more than his ability to impact the contest. But to an extent I agree. He's still gonna be a beauty, but this prima dona stuff has to be looked at. Particularly, if it's going to impact on his ability to chase and work like say Jeff Garlett (9 tackles and most on the ground today).

Tough crowd. First bad game of his career. He's a competitive lad, don't reckon anyone will be more filthy than himself.

Nothing to see here.

Not sure about that. I think he was worse last week. But there's always a caveat. As above, he's a first year key forward.

The ball is just being bombed in like a bag of [censored]. Delivery has been poor the last 4-5 weeks if not longer.

The delivery to him against St Kilda was very good. He had two from Jones on a plate, very early. He did kick 5 goals, so obviously, when we clean up our delivery to him, he will really start to impact games. He still needs to bring that forward pressure though.

Hate people getting stuck into first years players. He was not the problem today.

Consistent attitude and effort is all part of the learning process.

He'll learn from today.

Tough crowd. First bad game of his career. He's a competitive lad, don't reckon anyone will be more filthy than himself.

Nothing to see here.

I agree, although I'd say it's his 3rd bad game in the last month (Pies, WCE and Bombers).

Hogan shouldn't be immune from criticism.

However, it should be put in perspective.

If you're going to have a go at Hogan, you should also be having a go at the senior players yet again not playing well (how many of Dawes, Cross, Vince, Jones, Dunn, Garland, Lumumba and Howe played good games today?).

FWIW Hogan acted 'sulkily' far too much for my liking today. He is going to get beaten every now and again in his career; Hurley's in AA form, Hogan's not the first forward he's had the better of. But I didn't like how Hogan didn't really look to put in second efforts today, which is something he's done this year quite well.

Bad game, but not even close to a concern, let alone one of the more serious concerns.

Criticism should be directed at the blokes who just bombed the ball in, hacked it on their boot and hoped for the best.

Poor Jesse Hogan. I'd direct anger towards the midfield, and to a lesser extent the coaches box for letting it happen for 4 quarters.

Criticism should be directed at the blokes who just bombed the ball in, hacked it on their boot and hoped for the best.

Poor Jesse Hogan. I'd direct anger towards the midfield, and to a lesser extent the coaches box for letting it happen for 4 quarters.

4 quarters ....?

Happens every game.

And the captain's one of the worst offenders.

4 quarters ....?

Happens every game.

And the captain's one of the worst offenders.

They just don't lower their eyes, Jones never really has. Vince certainly doesn't.

I understand it was a slippery day, but too often when they had space they just bombed it in.

The midfield might've had reasonably good stats, but it is a day they'd rather forget IMO.