Put Dawes and Watts in the forward 50 for 22 games - and I guarantee you Watts will kick more goals, take more marks and get more disposals.

I agree that Watts will, and that's in spite of the ball being kicked to Dawes 3 times more often as it usually seems to be!

Has anyone else thought of Chris Dawes being reinvented as a key backman?

I've always been a big critic of him playing forward as he doesn't present well, doesn't mark much, hardly a goal kicker. But there's always someone to remind me that he puts on pressure, chases, tackles and all that crap that personally I don't rate a key forward on.

But with Fitzpatricks seemingly successful move down back I thought maybe they could try this with Dawes. With a backline of McDonald, Garland, Fitzpatrick it got me thinking that non of them really have the big body to take on the 'gorilla' forwards like we had when Frawley was around.

When Frost comes back he will most likely play forward, Pederson is in good form up there and we will riot if Hogan gets left out. Where does Dawes ever come back in.

Dawes is capable of at least contesting against the likes of Cloke, Roughead and Hawkins. We know he can bring the ball to ground. Then he can do all the chasing and tackling he likes.

Gotta be worth a try, otherwise he'll be a very expensive VFL forward in the last year of his contract next year and worthless at the trade table.

Has anyone else thought of Chris Dawes being reinvented as a key backman?

I've always been a big critic of him playing forward as he doesn't present well, doesn't mark much, hardly a goal kicker. But there's always someone to remind me that he puts on pressure, chases, tackles and all that crap that personally I don't rate a key forward on.

But with Fitzpatricks seemingly successful move down back I thought maybe they could try this with Dawes. With a backline of McDonald, Garland, Fitzpatrick it got me thinking that non of them really have the big body to take on the 'gorilla' forwards like we had when Frawley was around.

When Frost comes back he will most likely play forward, Pederson is in good form up there and we will riot if Hogan gets left out. Where does Dawes ever come back in.

Dawes is capable of at least contesting against the likes of Cloke, Roughead and Hawkins. We know he can bring the ball to ground. Then he can do all the chasing and tackling he likes.

Gotta be worth a try, otherwise he'll be a very expensive VFL forward in the last year of his contract next year and worthless at the trade table.

wouldn't mind seeing it given a chance

wouldn't mind seeing it given a chance

Yes plenty of spots available at Casey.

Hellfish: I would certainly put McDonald, Dunn and now Fitzdemon and even Garland ahead of Dawes as a big defender.

I must say given the good recent form and competitiveness of Pedersen I can't really see where Dawes will fit back in. He was sorely down on form prior to his sore calf, and IMVHO must find form at Casey before playing AFL again (regardless of his salary)! If he wants to learn new tricks he should learn them at Casey, as has Fitzy.

We are pretty much covered down back and his speed and kicking would be a concern

Has anyone else thought of Chris Dawes being reinvented as a key backman?

I've always been a big critic of him playing forward as he doesn't present well, doesn't mark much, hardly a goal kicker. But there's always someone to remind me that he puts on pressure, chases, tackles and all that crap that personally I don't rate a key forward on.

But with Fitzpatricks seemingly successful move down back I thought maybe they could try this with Dawes. With a backline of McDonald, Garland, Fitzpatrick it got me thinking that non of them really have the big body to take on the 'gorilla' forwards like we had when Frawley was around.

When Frost comes back he will most likely play forward, Pederson is in good form up there and we will riot if Hogan gets left out. Where does Dawes ever come back in.

Dawes is capable of at least contesting against the likes of Cloke, Roughead and Hawkins. We know he can bring the ball to ground. Then he can do all the chasing and tackling he likes.

Gotta be worth a try, otherwise he'll be a very expensive VFL forward in the last year of his contract next year and worthless at the trade table.

yes. given his lack of marking and goal kicking, one wonders why he was a forward in the first place

Has anyone else thought of Chris Dawes being reinvented as a key backman?

That just makes me have visions of James Sellar....

Dawes will play CHF at Casey until he finds form. Will be good cover if one of Hogan or Pedersen goes down at least.

Dawes is depth and that's it's.

He only comes in when Pedersen or Hogan go down with injury.

Dawes is depth and that's it's.

He only comes in when Pedersen or Hogan go down with injury.

Expensive depth Dazzle.

Expensive depth Dazzle.

At least means at the end of 2016 we'll have a heap of cap space when we need it!

Expensive depth Dazzle.

At least means at the end of 2016 we'll have a heap of cap space when we need it!

Maybe

But we shouldn't just play him because we pay him.

Dawes needs to play and lead up into the middle of the ground.

Provide an option wide if need be.

Get out of Hogan's way, basically...

Dawes is depth and that's it's.

He only comes in when Pedersen or Hogan go down with injury.

I disagree DD. Dawes has the runs on the board in that he's a premiership player. There was a time when he was playing some really good footy. I mean, let's not forget how ecstatic the majority here on DL were when we recruited him.

Yes his form has not been great and hasn't been for some time now. But I just think he's got more to offer the team than just depth. Until he recaptures that form, Pedersen has proven to be an adequate replacement.

Dawes is depth and that's it's.

He only comes in when Pedersen or Hogan go down with injury.

Pedersen has played two good games. He's hardly cemented his spot. Good on him and may it continue, but his default service for this club does not make him best 22. You're only as good as your last game, so on that basis he's an automatic selection for this week. Despite Dawes recent scratchy output, which his calf has not been helping, when fit he has way more runs on the board than Pedersen.

Pedersen has played two good games. He's hardly cemented his spot. Good on him and may it continue, but his default service for this club does not make him best 22. You're only as good as your last game, so on that basis he's an automatic selection for this week. Despite Dawes recent scratchy output, which his calf has not been helping, when fit he has way more runs on the board than Pedersen.

The runs on the board are now a fading memory from Pies days.

I cannot think of a top eight side from last year that Dawes would get a game in. Maybe Richmond. Pedersen is way ahead of him in the air, on the deck and in the ruck.

He is a waste of salary cap space.

The runs on the board are now a fading memory from Pies days.

I was thinking of his MFC output. I don't watch Collingwood.

I was thinking of his MFC output. I don't watch Collingwood.

That is exactly what I mean.

How many games has he played in the last 2+ years at the MFC where you would put him in the top 5 players.

The last good game I remember was last year when we beat Adelaide that is now over a year ago.

If you are a key forward you expect someone who can mark the ball and kick goals he does little of either.

That is exactly what I mean.

How many games has he played in the last 2+ years at the MFC where you would put him in the top 5 players.

The last good game I remember was last year when we beat Adelaide that is now over a year ago.

If you are a key forward you expect someone who can mark the ball and kick goals he does little of either.

I thought I made it clear. He's played more good games than Pedersen. Simple.

not this year he hasn't - Casey bound

Could Dawes get a run in the middle, but not as ruck, similar to the role that Roughy at the Hawks has had at times?

Dawes has the runs on the board in that he's a premiership player.

How long ago was that?

About as long as when Jamar was AA. Is Jamar an automatic selection coz he was AA once?

Pederson clunks his marks Dawes normally misses about 9 out of 10

Pederson clunks his marks Dawes normally misses about 9 out of 10

They are polar opposites when the ball hits their hands as you say DeeZee