I also did some googling. Clean also used with cocaine by at least one account. If it is ingestable, odourless and not toxic it would make a good packing agent

I don't know the particulars but I don't like the idea of mixing the two together. 2 stimulants together is a recipe for a heart attack.

Without inviting trouble for the forum owners, I will state my opinion that, having seen the escapades of one of the two accused in a Sydney club last year, the aforementioned speculation ticks multiple boxes for me. Much easier to get away with mischief in a city where nobody would recognize, nor care about, two small-time Collingwood players from a bar of soap.

The two players will be pushing it if they rely on the dodgy NZ meat story. China, Mexico and some EU countries are the places where meat contamination has been identified as a problem. NZ not mentioned here but Australian meat gets a tick as I would expect from our little brother across the Tasman - https://asada.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/01/contaminated-meat/

Just re the EU:

"Clenbuterol has been outlawed since 1996 and it showed up only once in 83,203 animal samples tested by EU countries in 2008 and 2009, with zero positive cases in Spain from 19,431 samples analysed."

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/feb/08/alberto-contador-defence-doping-ban

Maybe things are different in Eastern Europe, but still "EU Countries" would cover all of them.

Flash back to almost 13 months ago:

Eddie McGuire attacks AFL's cheats

I don't know the particulars but I don't like the idea of mixing the two together. 2 stimulants together is a recipe for a heart attack.

I doubt if many "invincible" young people, particularly "elite athletes" even consider heart attacks and cardiac arrest in the context of "recreational drugs" though it is amost a daily occurrence, sadly, in our city

There but for the grace ... Clean slate dream for Magpies left in ruins

This could have happened (and could still happen) to any AFL club including ours. Collingwood is strong enough to withstand the pressures that are being applied against the club ... but if this ever happened to us?

And let's not delude ourselves about the culture of this club over the past decade. One can only hope that the club and football administrations are right on top of this where our players are concerned?

There but for the grace ... Clean slate dream for Magpies left in ruins

This could have happened (and could still happen) to any AFL club including ours. Collingwood is strong enough to withstand the pressures that are being applied against the club ... but if this ever happened to us?

And let's not delude ourselves about the culture of this club over the past decade. One can only hope that the club and football administrations are right on top of this where our players are concerned?

Spot on WJ

I doubt "whatever it takes" is restricted to the EFC.

I seem to remember a certain club doctor getting moved on very quickly not so long ago.

Edited March 30, 201510 yr by old dee

Without inviting trouble for the forum owners, I will state my opinion that, having seen the escapades of one of the two accused in a Sydney club last year, the aforementioned speculation ticks multiple boxes for me. Much easier to get away with mischief in a city where nobody would recognize, nor care about, two small-time Collingwood players from a bar of soap.

3 days AFTER your training camp had finished....

There is only one thing for the AFL to do and that is honour the memory of ANZAC by removing the two drug-tainted Clubs from participation in the ANZAC Day match. No Collingwood or Essendon! Maybe the Dees vs St. Kilda might be two worthy combatants!

I was told about 2 years ago from a source who has Club connections (not MFC) that The Filth & Whorethorn were involved to some degree, but nobody had any evidence.

I have always wondered how a team can still be running flat out, Tackling with almost as much intensity as the first bounce deep in the last Quarter..

Makes one wonder how Dank would know the finer aspects of the "advanced" cell biology of the clubs mentioned.

Has he worked or consulted to/for Collingwood, Hawthorn or West Coast?

Makes one wonder how Dank would know the finer aspects of the "advanced" cell biology of the clubs mentioned.

Has he worked or consulted to/for Collingwood, Hawthorn or West Coast?

I am sure Dank would know all the other "scientists" working in the same field, at least via the phone.

Small secret industry....

I am sure Dank would know all the other "scientists" working in the same field, at least via the phone.

Small secret industry....

Like any other small specialised niche industry. All know what their competitors are doing and even share information if suits them.

Edited March 30, 201510 yr by america de cali

It's the Steak The steak I tell you!

Story going around there may be more than these two involved. We have to stay tuned.

Story going around there may be more than these two involved. We have to stay tuned.

Well if a group of players bought their charlie (not brownlow) from the one source.......

Story going around there may be more than these two involved. We have to stay tuned.

BREAKING NEWS

Tony Sheahan has tweeted that TWO more AFL Players are set to announced as ‘early as this week’ to also testing positive to clenbuterol, the same performance enhancing drug Collingwood players Lachie Keeffe and Josh Thomas tested positive to. It is understood that the two players are from two different Victorian Clubs, however names of the players are currently being withheld due to legal ramifications.

It is also understood that clenbuterol is also commonly used to ‘cut’ cocaine.

uh oh

I've had enough of this Collingwood drag saga. It's been dragging on forever.

uh oh

Yes, we should be worried if a now deleted thread on Demonology was to be believed.

Let's hope it's not one of ours.

Yes, we should be worried if a now deleted thread on Demonology was to be believed.

Player initials???

Let's be up front here: we ALWAYS think it is one of ours.

Player initials???

I only read the thread when it was up. Absolutely no idea if it was a rubbish post or not.

Just speculation at this stage but a few whispers of a Carlton player being one of the two

please God don't let it be Matt Jones