Big fan of this kid I thought he finished off the year really well. Hoping he carries that form into pre season and has a big 2015 because I can see him being a permanent 22 every week.

Has a beautiful kick on him and love his toughness and willingness to take the game on. Has a good mix of playing inside and out.

Id love to see Viv continue to develop into a fine midfielder for us. Thought he game against Hawthorn and GWS were very promising as a midfielder.

Thoughts?

Agreed. Seems to have good disposal and decision making. Only played a handful of games. A lot of promise.

Not sure about him yet DD.

First game last year his laziness in pushing back was terrible.

Giving him a pass due to injury in that game.

Jury is still out on whether he is capable of running both ways.

I think he and Bail will be fighting out for the same spot.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Bail train with the midfield group this preseason.

He is fit and tenacious.

Not sure about bail's ability to get the ball enough as a mid. Still see his best role gut running between the arcs, pushing up the ground defensively and running hard forward once we win the ball back.

Thought his finishing improved in 2014. Would love him to become a 20-30 goal a year player.

From the limited season he had I thought he did well enough. Now a solid pre season will hopefully see him step up and become a best 18 player. At the moment I see him as fringe 22

The forgotten mid

Dare I suggest...with a decent preseason we may see him emerging as a solid working type mid, nothing flash just decent meat 3 veg type.

I hoping anyhows

I hope that Viv and Riley prove to be the surprise packets of 2015.

he would be in my best 22 for round 1

I love what this kid brings to the table and i love the way he moves

good get by the Dees.

If Newton comes in and we draft Brayshaw then the competition for mid spots will be fierce. Michie, Riley, Jones M and others will be up for one or two spots.

It will be interesting to see who rises to the top especially if Salem, Kennedy Harris and Toumpas start competing.

From the limited season he had I thought he did well enough. Now a solid pre season will hopefully see him step up and become a best 18 player. At the moment I see him as fringe 22

Agree. If those guys who are currently 15th-25th best players and who have only had a couple of preseasons can step up then we can improve quickly.

Michie, Riley, Toumpas, Barry, Frost, Salem, Kent, JKH and (hopefully) Ben Newton are all talented footballers with significant scope for improvement. Dyson and Viney are also young players with only a couple of preseasons behind them. Then there is Hogan

Whilst trying not to sound too clichéd, this will be the mother of all preseasons for this group. IMost of our teams improvement in 2015 will come from these players

If he can keep his work rate up, he will be comfortably best 22 by season's end.

If the decision is between Michie, Riley and M Jones for one spot then I could make a decision right now and it wouldn't be a difficult one.

Players like Michie are vital to a team, midfield depth is paramount and you need competition for a spot.

I hope that Viv and Riley prove to be the surprise packets of 2015.

I hope Toumpas is in that group too.

Edited November 2, 201410 yr by Dr. Gonzo

I hope Toumpas is in that group too.

Hope springs eternal.

He's a long way off these two at the moment.

Big challenge will be for Viv to play 15+ games at AFL this year.
I'm not expecting anything massive, but I'll consider it a successful year of he plays consistent footy and cements his spot in the side.

I think he and Bail will be fighting out for the same spot.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Bail train with the midfield group this preseason.

He is fit and tenacious.

Prefer Viv.

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The positive is he is a bit of a jack of all trades:

- Strong body

- Decent height

- Can take a mark

- Wins it in close

- Can run and link up

- Can use it nicely (especially if not under much pressure)

The negatives are he's a master of none. Versatility is great but you have to do things well enough to be steady in the side.

He got a long period out of the side season. I hope next year they give him a really strong run at it.

I'm still glad we have him. But I hope he's fitter and faster this preseason because from there he'll be more successful at being a nice versatile midfielder who can play anywhere through the midfield, half back or half forward. He wasn't all that productive but battled it out against the Hawks and even though he didn't get much of it I thought he used the ball very well in the last game against North from half back.

Big fan of this kid I thought he finished off the year really well. Hoping he carries that form into pre season and has a big 2015 because I can see him being a permanent 22 every week.

Has a beautiful kick on him and love his toughness and willingness to take the game on. Has a good mix of playing inside and out.

Id love to see Viv continue to develop into a fine midfielder for us. Thought he game against Hawthorn and GWS were very promising as a midfielder.

Thoughts?

I'm also a big fan of Viv, I was also surprised with some of his dash and pace he showed at times.

I love his contested work, I think he usually comes out on top or at least neutralizes it one on one.

I think he just needs to develop his tank a bit more so he can get to more contests, improve his uncontested possession rate, and break away in those final quarters.

Once that improves I think we'll have a real player on our hands, needless to say I really like his upside and hope he makes massive inroads over the pre-season.

Edited November 2, 201410 yr by ignition.

If Newton comes in and we draft Brayshaw then the competition for mid spots will be fierce. Michie, Riley, Jones M and others will be up for one or two spots.

It will be interesting to see who rises to the top especially if Salem, Kennedy Harris and Toumpas start competing.

Can't see him lasting past next year. Endeavour good, disposal shite. Michie however, I like what I see!

I'm in the Riley camp. I think Michie has a fair amount of work to do on his defensive running. Also seems a little one paced but is still young and has time to prove his worth. He's certainly at the right club.

I like the fact Michie, Riley and now Newton (assuming we land him this week) are all players wanted by their sides but left for more opportunities at the D's. Straight out of the Roos/Swans recruiting playbook.

I like the fact Michie, Riley and now Newton (assuming we land him this week) are all players wanted by their sides but left for more opportunities at the D's. Straight out of the Roos/Swans recruiting playbook.

May have missed something. Are we landing him?

I'd definitely prefer Mitchie over Riley at this point. I know Riley brings a lot of grunt but he's also quite a one type player- apart from being hard at it he really doesn't have much more scope. Unless he overtake McKenzie as our tagger then Mitchie is a much better option. Looks like a good decision maker and seems to be able to have a decent kick on him too!