Nice avatar. It suits you.

I'm assuming that's not a compliment, but I'll take it as one.

After further consideration, I'm retracting my "hell no" and replacing it with a "well, whatever"

I can't stand Lumumba off the field, what does he call "Otunes" now by the way?..

And I can't stomach him on the field. Gets it, baulks/goose steps, runs 20 and kicks it long and high 55. Often in hope, often turned over.

However, I can't stand Jack Grimes either. Gets it, hesitates, hesitates, looks sideways, kicks it 20m and turns it over.

So if I look at it in terms of metres gained, we're 55m better off with Lumumba.

But Grimes is a better defender.

And Grimes is a perennial coaches and supporters favourite so I'd have to deal with both of the headaches in my team.

How about the Lumumba thing f_s off, ship Grimes off to GWS, get Sam Frost in who isn't the best kick but has pace to burn and will develop nicely. Get Malceski via free agency. Trade Clark and an early pick and whatever else they want to Adelaide for Tex.

We'll start to look alright.

Someone else can figure out how to fix the midfield.

I like how you knock Lumumba for his kicking yet say we should recruit Frost even though, and I quote, "he isn't the best kick...".

I like how you knock Lumumba for his kicking yet say we should recruit Frost even though, and I quote, "he isn't the best kick...".

He's young and coachable. He can defend.

If there are perfect players to recruit, by all means, get them.

He's young and coachable. He can defend.

If there are perfect players to recruit, by all means, get them.

Lumumba can defend also, and has the pace to go with it. Plus he has 199 games of experience that include plenty of finals.

I'd like us to recruit Frost as well but Lumumba, for the right price, would bring something positive to our list as well that can't easily be ignored.

Lumumba can defend also, and has the pace to go with it. Plus he has 199 games of experience that include plenty of finals.

I'd like us to recruit Frost as well but Lumumba, for the right price, would bring something positive to our list as well that can't easily be ignored.

Lumumba is a terrible defender.

Lumumba is a terrible defender.

I disagree. He isn't great, but he isn't terrible either and can play a handy role in a Paul Roos defence.

He sucks defending, just a hack that runs fast then tumble punts it long to no one In particular

He sucks defending, just a hack that runs fast then tumble punts it long to no one In particular

Wasn't he an AA? Premiership player. Averaged 20 disp per game this year, 22 the year before. 5th in their B&F last year. Yeah, he's a hack.

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If the top fits!

Harry has been getting a regular game in a top 8 team over the last 4 or 5 years and playing well. He is a walk up start to play with us and certainly an upgrade.

Can he change his name back to Harry O'Brien ? Easier for the old boys in the MCC to relate to. Harry is a strong Grammar name

This could still go in any direction. In the meanwhile to ease the anxiety just call him 'H'.

Edited September 10, 201410 yr by Lord Ivanhoe

I sat in front of a Collingwood supporter a couple of years ago who just went to town on the bloke all game--so much so that I wondered if he hated him for some other reason besides his poor disposal. Every time Harry did something good, I waited for the guy behind me to say something nice about it, but he didn't.

My husband is a Collingwood supporter and cannot stand him either - never has and says he will be very happy to offload him.

He sucks defending, just a hack that runs fast then tumble punts it long to no one In particular

He has his weaknesses, but this is just silly. No player who plays like that plays 200 AFL games.

sure, he gets the ball in the backline bombs it long and turns it over, but at least he will look good doing it.

There was nothing attractive to how we moved the ball this year.

Id take Acuna Mattata for Watts it means no worries. Mind you Id take a warm cup of water for Watts as well. Is anyone offering?

I'm growing to like him coming. He's a bit of a dill, but him and malceski running the lines from the back half next year is light years away from where we were exiting defence this year.

Who currently can spark the side with devastating line-breaking run?

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Could have probably stopped here because this is what he brings and this what we don't have.

Cheer up Jane. Perhaps your next husband will be a Melbourne supporter !!!

I'm growing to like him coming. He's a bit of a dill, but him and malceski running the lines from the back half next year is light years away from where we were exiting defence this year.

That's because the move is looking more likely and your coping mechanisms are kicking in. Wait till you see him break a line only to turn it over, he will have no success in a team incapable of spreading, he will be a turn over king.

Then there's his personality. I threw up a little when someone posted him in the MFC jumper, and the thought of him taking on a leadership role is just downright scary to me. He is too devisive and opinionated for my liking.

Lumumba can defend also, and has the pace to go with it. Plus he has 199 games of experience that include plenty of finals.

I'd like us to recruit Frost as well but Lumumba, for the right price, would bring something positive to our list as well that can't easily be ignored.

I must be watching a different game.

HL can not defend, is terrible one on one. He was good in 2010 when him and Maxwell just played loose third man up defenders and run off but once he has been found out as a defender that cant defend hes had to moved up to the wing. Teams just isolated him one out in the 50 and he was found out.

Hes not a great kick, just bombs it long and high.

Yes hell play 20 games at melb but I wouldnt want to be paying too much for him, trade wise.

Id pass.

Look at it this way- if he wasn't so athletic he'd have nothing else to offer. Athleticism fades over time too. We will be very lucky to get anything of substance out of him. He can hide in a good team

I must be watching a different game.

HL can not defend, is terrible one on one. He was good in 2010 when him and Maxwell just played loose third man up defenders and run off but once he has been found out as a defender that cant defend hes had to moved up to the wing. Teams just isolated him one out in the 50 and he was found out.

Hes not a great kick, just bombs it long and high.

Yes hell play 20 games at melb but I wouldnt want to be paying too much for him, trade wise.

Id pass.

I would pass as well We need to start new and that shouldnt include Hacks like Harry