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I see your point.

Then let Geelong quickly hand over their first round pick for a player they think can be in their 22 and help win them another flag. Let them not waste our time.

Let's hope that's what happens, Redleg.

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And mine. 186 is still in my mind and now there is Rivers, MC and possibly Chip. This club hurts us.

And my axe

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actually 4yo tantrums have a reasonable success rate. maybe why they repeat them so frequently. of course ymmv :lol:

Not in my place dc. I've had three of them go through the system and another on his way. They are learning their lesson - albeit slowly!

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I see your point.

Then let Geelong quickly hand over their first round pick for a player they think can be in their 22 and help win them another flag. Let them not waste our time.

There's a Dale Kerrigan on the blower for you Red !! :rolleyes:
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His manager wanted to talk up how well Clark could go at Geelong but kept restraining himself becuase he probably knows if he talks him up too much Melbourne will want more for him which could slow the whole process down.

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His manager wanted to talk up how well Clark could go at Geelong but kept restraining himself becuase he probably knows if he talks him up too much Melbourne will want more for him which could slow the whole process down.

but he represents the player and has publicly stated clark wants a good compensation deal for mfc

so which is it? simple question

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but he represents the player and has publicly stated clark wants a good compensation deal for mfc

so which is it? simple question

I think we all know that he could not GAF.

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Clark and 22 for Geelong's 13 and 33

On trade 33 to Collingwood for HL

I doubt it...but I like it :)

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Their first round pick or he can walk. Don't let us get [censored] over Roos. They've come out saying their medicos are confident he can get back to his career best form. Well, career best form is a first round pick.

Probably a stupid thing for Geelong's recruiters to say in the media, isn't it?

It simply has to improve our bargaining power I would've thought.

Yes he is damaged goods with extensive breaks due to injury, but if you are publicly confident in the medical reports that suggest he can achieve career best form then the risk is minimised and the trade should be evaluated in accordance with that advice. Every trade is risky to an extent.

Tbh this whole episode has been as tough a pill to swallow as any I can think of. It would nice to get something positive out the other end.

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Tbh this whole episode has been as tough a pill to swallow as any I can think of. It would nice to get something positive out the other end.

Sounds difficult. Hard to polish a turd.

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51 games he has missed in the last three years through injury.

51.

How he goes injury free next year is almost irrelevant to his value right now.

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Cats biggest missing ingredient since their 3 flags is Brad Ottens, forward ruck, Clark is very valuable to them whilst the Clark & 21 for 13 & 33 seems a stretch I don't think it's inconceivable.

He has nominated Geelong but we can always consider trades elsewhere. We do what is best for the club long term

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Straight swap for Greenwood. Boom

How does we will seek the best trade for Melbourne and Mitch nominates X club as preference concur anyway.?

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I don't think it's how strong clubs do it. It's how clubs who don't want to be traded with do it.

I've posted it before that I knew a guy who spent time with a club and sat at their table during trade week. His story went that clubs like Roos's Swans would target the player they want, put their best offer on the table immediately, the trade would be done within the hour, and both clubs can move on with other things. Other clubs, like Essendon, would make completely unreasonable demands and waste everybody's time (which is not limitless).

We saw this ourselves with the Darren Jolly trade - fair price (late first rounder) offered straight away, deal is done, we move on. My mind also goes back to the Brock McLean deal - the trade was executed within the first couple of hours on the Monday of trade week and we were well compensated (that we blew the pick on Gysberts later is beside the point). On the extreme end of the scale, Essendon missed out on Josh Caddy altogether a couple of years ago because of their unreasonable trade demands.

I'm not suggesting we roll over and take any shafting Geelong will offer us. I just don't want to see a long, protracted negotiation that saps all our time away from getting the deals *we* want to get done. And I definitely don't want to see him walk - someone hasn't done their job if that happens.

Obviously if they come to the table with a reasonable trade then it's a done deal, but the Swans under Roos never compromised, never undersold or overpayed and I expect this to be no different. Clark has done a massive dirty on us, we have picks 2 & 3 which are the big drawing cards this trade period and this deal will have zero impact on anything else we do. At best it screwed Geelong, at worse, it slows down trading pick 48 for some miscellaneous player.

Clark is one of our best players, I want adequate compensation. Regardless of his history, he's been passed fit physically and mentally, he's a top 22 player and Geelong are about to get stronger again. We deserve a good deal, and I'd rather stand our ground to ensure we get it, than simply go "this is all too hard".

The only thing that will make this entire Clark sh!tfest better, is decent compensation. Do not roll over to the big boys. If they don't wanna give us something decent, they can shove their 3rd round pick up their bum and stuff Clark and stuff Geelong.

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51 games he has missed in the last three years through injury.

51.

How he goes injury free next year is almost irrelevant to his value right now.

You don't think the degree of likelihood of him reaching peak fitness is relevant to his trade value?

If the medical advice is foot is great, mental health is progressing well, physically ready to hit the pre-season, it is definitely relevant to the discussion, just as much as his injury history.

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Cats biggest missing ingredient since their 3 flags is Brad Ottens, forward ruck, Clark is very valuable to them whilst the Clark & 21 for 13 & 33 seems a stretch I don't think it's inconceivable.

He has nominated Geelong but we can always consider trades elsewhere. We do what is best for the club long term

I always thought we would have used Clark in the Ottens type role but it seems that's what he will now do at Geelong. I'm sure they will pay for the privilege.

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Gee now we are attacking our own players for showing a bit of loyalty to a former team mate.

No wonder players don't want to come to us, we are on the bottom and our fans attack their own players.

Get over it. See the post after yours by DD 4385.

Lol... Umm... Maybe you should re-read some of the Watts, Morton, Toumpas and Trengove threads.... This is not a new thing?
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51 games he has missed in the last three years through injury.

51.

How he goes injury free next year is almost irrelevant to his value right now.

Another way of looking at this 'rpfc' is that if they go to the draft they use pick 13 for a player who has played no games and has no exposed form at the level.

So what do you do, pick someone who is now fit and has shown that he is a top level player and fits a glaring need, or do you use pick 13 on a kid who will take a few years to develop and may or may not make the grade?

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As if our supporters are any different in hanging it on under performing and disloyal players. If anything our supporter base has been criticised for being too passive in the past, happy to accept mediocrity.

Would be interesting to read the Pies, Blues or Tigers blogs if a Clark scenario happened to them. There would be revolution.

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Another way of looking at this 'rpfc' is that if they go to the draft they use pick 13 for a player who has played no games and has no exposed form at the level.

So what do you do, pick someone who is now fit and has shown that he is a top level player and fits a glaring need, or do you use pick 13 on a kid who will take a few years to develop and may or may not make the grade?

The Cats want him and they will want him for a specific purpose - and, they won't be able to hide their intentions very easily. The fact that they do want him points to them being fully prepared to take a risk. Besides which, they may not see him as a risk at all.

Our selling point should be that he's fit and ready to play, 26 years old and before he was injured in 2012, he was in the running to have won the Coleman medal (Jack Reiwoldt won it with 65 goals in 2012) We might also throw in that we gave up pick 12 for him and he was our highest paid player.

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