I can only hope the coaching staff don't have the same emotional attachment to some of the players as some people on here do. A number of players been in the system for years and bring very little to the table.

Frawley has only 2 desposals to half time. We're really screwed now, no one will pay big money for him now. We can say goodbye to a first round compo pick

maybe already have

Roos needs to tear them a new one and show us why we're paying him a million plus a year. I know the players are crap but he's the man who sets the standards. He now needs to enforce them. There's no excuse for putting supporters through this garbage week after week.

My usual optimism has taken a beating in the last hour.

I agree. We need to hear from Roos and PJ if we lose this. We need to hear where the improvement is coming from. They're breaking trust (PJs phrase) with the members again.

Frawley and Dawes are part of our leadership group.. unbelievable!

2.9 in a half against GWS on the MCG

this club continues to serve up absolute tripe to its supporters with no end in sight and no limits to how low it can go

I think they will all be secretly celebrating that we won the Petracca cup

Frawley probably made his decision after that

Frawley is very much to blame for this current loss so he can get stuffed.

Sick of these pathetic players not giving a stuff.

I really thought Dawes could play......my bad

WHY IS IT THAT GWS SKILLS UNDER PRESSURE ARE FAR FAR BETTER THAN OURS WHEN WE HAVE NO PRESSURE?

They are also down to 1 and a half interchange options and are still killing us, Are we fit ?doesn't look like it? Are we tanking/?Sheez looks very much like it!

Too much speed, better ball usage, spread, and GRUNT!

Shocking

Get RILEY ON!

GWS have a thousand times more talent

Dawes and Chip are having shockers but to simply blame them is wrong - the delivery to them going forward is slow and horrible. Bit hard to have an impact when they take so long to get the ball to you that it's now a 3 on 1, or the ball goes right over your head.

I think they will all be secretly celebrating that we won the Petracca cup

yeah. how exciting

Jack Watts, Tom Scully, Jack Trengove, Cale Morton, Jimmy Toumpas

May as well add Petracca in there too

Edited August 17, 201411 yr by hogans_heroes

Playing against a depleted side.

Patton injuried

Davis injuried

Ward injuried

If were not Tanking , I'm shocked on how bad we really are! 2 goals until half time is disgraceful !

It's just...bewildering.

I almost don't care what they do in the second half. If they can run over the top of a depleted bunch of kids, bravo. At this rate they won't even manage that.

I want players in the side who can execute skills and are desperate to win. Most of these blokes don't fit that description.

Thank the lord I decided not to drive down from Ballarat today. I was feeling guilty but not now - they can get stuffed.

Shhh stop being soo depressing hogans_heroes. Let me stay positive for a bit

I do tend to focus on the positive but some of our players are unco. Garland is possibly the most unco followed by Frawley.

Frawls is working hard to make some kind of space but he just isn't a fwd unfortunately we have no one else. We should be chasing Saad, he is a mature, natural medium fwd.

If we don't get a priority pick the AFL are kidding themselves.

Thank the lord I decided not to drive down from Ballarat today. I was feeling guilty but not now - they can get stuffed.

I can't believe what I just witnessed in that first half. Someone on the matchday forum raised an interesting point about none of the GWS players wanting to come to us after seeing the tripe we dished up just then. I agree wholeheartedly and it got me thinking. What type of player is going to want to come to us? If you're ambitious and want to have a genuine chance of having a tilt at a flag, why on earth would you be seeking a move to to the MFC in 2015? Doesn't make sense.

The only players tha are likely to come are the mercanary types that are after a big fat contract with all this cap space we're likely to have. Is that going to change our culture? I wouldn't think so, but what chance do we have to attract genuine winners that can turn around the HMS Titanic that is the MFC? The only hope is that Roosy's influence can make a difference but, it's worrying that he's only here for another 2 years and then what? Dean bailey mk2, mark neeld 2.0??

Horrible day for the demons, and I'm beginning to lose hope that things are going to get better.

Game day thread.

I can feel a 10 goal loss coming here. I have this numb feeling that the MFC continues to bring to my life.

I'm not even sure I can watch the second half.

They're killing us on uncontested possessions. Working harder and hitting targets

All going according to plan so far...

Amazing that a club all of 4 years old already has a better culture and spirit than the oildest sporting club in the country