1. Fremantle

2. Sydney

3. Gold Coast

4. Hawthorn

5. Richmond

6. Port Adelaide

7. North Melbourne

8. Melbourne

9. Geelong (delisted too many stars)

10. Collingwood

11. Essendon

12. Carlton

13. Adelaide

14. Bulldogs

15. West Coast

16. Brisbane

17. GWS

18. St. Kilda

I know lots of people will disagree with me, just my opinion.

Gold coast third? Really?

Gold coast third? Really?

It's relative to our rise to 8th.

It's relative to our rise to 8th.

I just have a funny feeling we will be the next Port Adelaide.

I have a funny feeling there is not a snowflakes chance in hell of us finishing higher than the cats next year

one can always dreammm.........gold coast above hawks??

1. Hawthorn

2. Sydney

3. Fremantle

4. Geelong

5. Melbourne

6. Port Adelaide

7. Collingwood

8. Gold Coast

9. North Melbourne

10. Richmond

11. Bulldogs

12. Carlton

13. Adelaide

14. GWS

15. West Coast

16. Brisbane

17. St. Kilda

18. Essendon

The Dons will have lost up to a dozen of their best players by the start of next year and will be caught in the misery of expensive court cases when these players sue them which will last most of next year.

Demons to "do a Port Adelaide" with a favorable draw, a much better list, and a great coach.

Edited October 21, 201312 yr by Dees2014

1.Fremantle

2.Hawthorn

3.Sydney

4.North Melbourne

5.Geelong

6.Richmond

7.Collingwood

8.Carlton

9.Port Adelaide

10.Gold Coast

11.Adelaide

12.West Coast

13.Melbourne

14.Western Bulldogs

15.Brisbane

16.G.W.S.

17.St.Kilda

18.Essendon* (assuming they lose players to suspension,

Otherwise they'll be in the mix for the 8)

Hope we can win some close ones and push higher but realistically

this is where I think we'll be.

I only can see us finishing above:

StKilda - they are poo

Brisbane - player exodus, issues with the board etc

GWS - still developing, wont make the Gold Coast leap

Western Bulldogs - we have a better backline and forwards, now we are catching up to their midfield

Gold Coast, Adelaide, West Coast, Carlton, etc all either have too many prime senior players or ridiculous young talent and will finish above us for that reason.

The best looking ladder in 2004 for the MFC

Anything else will still be painful

1. fremantle

2. Sydney

3. Hawthorn

4. Richmond

5. North Melbourne

6. Gold Coast

7. Collingwood

8. Geelong

9. Carlton

10. Adelaide

11. Port Adelaide

12. Melbourne

13. Essendon

14. West Coast

15.Brisbane

16. Bulldogs

17. GWS

18. St Kilda

I feel as though melbourne could very well be higher up the ladder, but i really can't see us improving enough to leapfrog the teams above them, except for maybe port as they may have a hangover from last year.

Ffs even if we improve by 10 goals we will still lose most games. Our midfield might be 3 times more efficient, that still will not be enough to mix it at the top.

Hahaha the MFC finishing higher than the cats next year!!!

Gimme some of your stash brother!!

Geelong have lost about 25 games since 2007, in that time we have made ourselves irrellevant sadly.

Improvement will come but not like your prediction

I will take 5-6 wins and a percentage of around 85-90....is this fair?

1. Sydney

2. Fremantle

3. Hawthorn

4. North Melbourne

5. Geelong

6. Collingwood

7. Essendon

8. Carlton

9. Richmond

10. Gold Coast

11. Adelaide

12. Melbourne

13. West Coast

14. Port Adelaide

15. Bulldogs

16. Brisbane

17. GWS

18. St. Kilda

1. Hawthorn

2. Fremantle

3. Geelong

4. Collingwood

5. Sydney

6. Carlton

7. North Melbourne

8. Gold Coast

9. Richmond

10. Port Adelaide

11. Bulldogs

12. Melbourne

13. Adelaide

14. Essendon

15. West Coast

16. Brisbane

17. St. Kilda

18. GWS

Essendon's position will be dependent on the ASADA action,

Sydney will slip due to the destabilising effect of Buddy's arrival and the departure of several players as a result.

Saints will struggle.

Bulldogs will continue their good form and remain ahead of us.

Port will settle back down to a more realistic position.

A decent midfield and classy forward line will see us start to move up, but not as rapidly as some seem to think as we first need to build a "winning culture".

I think a more realistic prediction is 15-16th (5-7 wins) with a percentage in the high 70's.

We were so far off a win this year it wasn't funny.

Richmond 9th....it really is the first one pencilled in isn't it

Quick Guess:

1. Fremantle (Col get's a premiership!)

2. Sydney (Can't stop the forwards)

3. North Melbourne (Ready to pop)

4. Hawthorn (Missing something, someone)

5. Geelong (I guess they were pretty good...)

6. West Coast (Cocaine's a helluva drug)

7. Port Adelaide (Improving)

8. Adelaide (Still round a bouts)

9. Richmond (We finished 9th again)

10. Melbourne (Up and up)

11. Collingwood (??? Buckley ????)

12. Essendon (Steroids wearing off)

13. Carlton (Mick's lost his mojo)

14. Gold Coast (Still improving)

15. Western Bulldogs (Solid, but without wins)

16. GWS (Are we there yet?)

17. Brisbane (Leigh, you want to have another go?)

18. St Kilda ("It's alright, we planned for this")

Hahaha the MFC finishing higher than the cats next year!!!

Gimme some of your stash brother!!

Geelong have lost about 25 games since 2007, in that time we have made ourselves irrellevant sadly.

Improvement will come but not like your prediction

Gotta stop winning sometime.

Paul Roos first full season with Sydney he turned them into a team that finished 14th the last season, to a team in the top 4, don't see why he can't do something similar with us.

Paul Roos first full season with Sydney he turned them into a team that finished 14th the last season, to a team in the top 4, don't see why he can't do something similar with us.

Indeed. History is littered with teams that have risen quickly, so anything is possible. How quickly can our midfield beak even and get the ball inside 50, can we have a decent run with injuries and how quickly they learn the game-plan will be pivotal.

In 1993 Sydney were the absolute pits. They won one game for the season. In 1996 they'd included players such as Lockett, Roos and Shannon Grant and finished top of the ladder only to lose the GF.

Things can change quickly.

A bit of luck and if the additions do as expected we should win 8-10 games and be around 10-12 on the ladder, especially with the likely draw of playing poor teams twice. Year two of Roos I reckon finals aren't out of the question.

Edited October 22, 201312 yr by Ben-Hur

1. Melbourne

2. GWS

3. Gold Coast

4. Brisbane

5. Bulldogs

6. Port Adelaide

7. North Melbourne

8. Fremantle

9. Geelong

10. St.Kilda

11. Essendon

12. Carlton

13. Adelaide

14. Richmond

15. West Coast

16. Hawthorn

17. Sydney

18. Collingwood

That's it I reckon... oh crap, I just saw it's for 2014 not 2024!

1. Fremantle - Only going to get better next year

2. Hawthorn - Better without Buddy?

3. Sydney - Too much talent to finish outside the top 4

4. Geelong - Young guys like Motlop, Duncan etc only going to get better

5. North Melbourne - Unfortunate, as I cannot stand them. Team is shaping up pretty well

6. Collingwood - Neither here nor there. Talented, but poorly managed

7. Richmond - Will be similar to this year

8. Adelaide - Tex comes back with Betts at his feet. Crouch, Dangerfield, Sloane, Douglas form matchup nightmares for opposing midfields.

9. Carlton - Nothing special

10. Essendon - Drugs will have well and truly worn off

11. Port Adelaide - Don't think they'll regress too much, just other teams like Adelaide will have better seasons

12. Gold Coast - Will continue to gradually move up the ladder

13. West Coast - Should be better, but with a rookie coach I don't see the improving straight away

14. Brisbane - No idea what's going on up there

15. Melbourne - To even get to 15th would be a drastic improvement on last season. It will take some time to be beating down the door of the eight again

16. Bulldogs - Lack strength in key positions, McCartney doesn't seem like much of a coach either

17. GWS - Might win 3-4 games. Talented, no doubt, but they don't know how to win.

18. St Kilda - Total mess, will be down in the dregs for a few years you'd think. Watters first coach to fall next year

Your on crack if you think we'll be in the top 8 at the end of next season.