Adams or Swallow?

[Akum 2,660]

Both, plus Conca and Sloane.....biggest player coup since Barrassi went to North.

They will follow the great man.

You could add Cross to that.

Wow.

[What 18,810]

lets get both

[Travis Boots 157]

Haha, i question anyones knowledge on AFL who suggests Swallow's output has been better than Adams' so far in their careers.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Swallow is from WA.. so we cant use the 'wants to come home' line

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Swallow is from WA.. so we cant use the 'wants to come home' line

His reasoning according to the articles is to be closer to his brother.

[Fat Tony 5,306]

Adams should be our primary target as he is out of contract and GWS will have to deal if he chooses MFC.

A trade for Swallow should only be done if we believe we are long-term winners.

[rjay 25,304]

Haha, i question anyones knowledge on AFL who suggests Swallow's output has been better than Adams' so far in their careers.

Yeah, I would think Swallow hasn't lived up to expectations to date. Whether that is injury or other reasons I don't really know but his VFL year was pretty special and that has yet to translate to AFL.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Yeah, I would think Swallow hasn't lived up to expectations to date. Whether that is injury or other reasons I don't really know but his VFL year was pretty special and that has yet to translate to AFL.

I agree rjay. I'd think Adams is the main key.

If we can manage Swallow as well, then good.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Please indulge the super optimistic side of me for one minute. Let's say we use our first two round picks and a possible priority pick and manage to convince Swallow and Adams to come to club. Then we spend up big a get either Thomas or Stokes as a free agent. We round out our incredible trade period by signing the delisted Cross. So come 2014 our midfield has added four quality players and we add a fit Clark and Dawes to an upgraded Hogan and an injury free Trengove and a rejuvenated Watts. At what point do we start talking up finals?

[pantaloons 2,019]

At what point do we start talking up 25-0?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Please indulge the super optimistic side of me for one minute. Let's say we use our first two round picks and a possible priority pick and manage to convince Swallow and Adams to come to club. Then we spend up big a get either Thomas or Stokes as a free agent. We round out our incredible trade period by signing the delisted Cross. So come 2014 our midfield has added four quality players and we add a fit Clark and Dawes to an upgraded Hogan and an injury free Trengove and a rejuvenated Watts. At what point do we start talking up finals?

You've to me excited already Goodvibes.

[Grimes is Great 183]

What about Dusty Martin for pick 2??? Better than Swallow IMO.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

At what point do we start talking up 25-0?

Pants we might have to start early with your paperclip approach if we want to snare Ablett, Dangerfield and Cotchin as well. Then we might start talking about 25 - 0.

[pantaloons 2,019]

Pants we might have to start early with your paperclip approach if we want to snare Ablett, Dangerfield and Cotchin as well. Then we might start talking about 25 - 0.

I'm pretty sure I can turn pick 107 into Ablett if you give me enough transactions.

As for finals, our 22 would look something like this under your (wildly optimistic, even by my standards) scenario:

B: Garland Frawley Terlich

HB: Grimes McDonald Kent

C: Swallow Jones Trengove

HF: Stokes Dawes Sylvia

F: Hogan Clark Watts

R: Jamar Adams Viney

I: Howe Mckenzie Toumpas Cross

It's nice to actually look at a team with a potentially functional midfield. I can actually ask questions like 'Is our forward line too top heavy and will they be able to give enough chase?' At the moment it's tough to even wonder about forward line nuances because the ball never gets down there.

Anyway, if you can make those personnel moves happen, that'd be great. Thanks, pantaloons.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Anyway, if you can make those personnel moves happen, that'd be great. Thanks, pantaloons.

I'll see what I can do. I quite like your 22 but we're still an elite kick off the half back line away from finals footy in 2014. Can you devise a plan to deliver Hodge?

[Grimes is Great 183]

I'm pretty sure I can turn pick 107 into Ablett if you give me enough transactions.

As for finals, our 22 would look something like this under your (wildly optimistic, even by my standards) scenario:

B: Garland Frawley Terlich

HB: Grimes McDonald Kent

C: Swallow Jones Trengove

HF: Stokes Dawes Sylvia

F: Hogan Clark Watts

R: Jamar Adams Viney

I: Howe Mckenzie Toumpas Cross

It's nice to actually look at a team with a potentially functional midfield. I can actually ask questions like 'Is our forward line too top heavy and will they be able to give enough chase?' At the moment it's tough to even wonder about forward line nuances because the ball never gets down there.

Anyway, if you can make those personnel moves happen, that'd be great. Thanks, pantaloons.

Not unrealistic, some smart trading + receiving a priority pick our team could quite easily resemble something like this.

Swap Kent & Watts around and the team looks even better.

[Grimes is Great 183]

I'll see what I can do. I quite like your 22 but we're still an elite kick off the half back line away from finals footy in 2014. Can you devise a plan to deliver Hodge?

Watts can be the qtr back, a bit of guidance & confidence and he can improve out of sight, will never be tough like Hodge but can definately be elite off half back. Grimes is an option also, put him at half back & leave him there.

[pantaloons 2,019]

Hodge? I'm going to leave it in Grimes is Great's capable hands. I like Watts up forward, but he is a great kick. I just assumed the 'one position' Roos talked about was up forward but who knows.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Watts can be the qtr back, a bit of guidance & confidence and he can improve out of sight, will never be tough like Hodge but can definately be elite off half back. Grimes is an option also, put him at half back & leave him there.

I was a little tongue and cheek with the Hodge call. If we can nab Swallow and Adams I would be over the moon.

[Whispering_Jack 31,131]

Be very careful lads

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Be very careful lads

Jack, I'm expecting my Paul Roos honeymoon period to wear off in a couple of days. Just let me enjoy those days!

[InVINCEable 358]

What trades I think will happen

Pick 3 for David Swallow

Pick 1 for Matt Rosa and Andrew Gaff

Jake Spencer, 2nd round pick and pick 19 for Taylor Adams

How I think the team next year in round 1 will look (most likely going to be a Sunday).

Back: Lynden Dunn, James Frawley, Tom McDonald

Halfbacks: Dean Terlich, Colin Garland, Jack Grimes

Midfield: David Swallow, Jack Trengove, Matt Rosa

Half forwards: Jeremy Howe, Mitch Clark, Jack Watts

Forwards: Jack Fitzpatrick, Jesse Hogan, Colin Sylvia

Followers: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney

Interchange: Chris Dawes, Matt Jones, Max Gawn, Andrew Gaff, Jimmy Toumpas, Taylor Adams

Sub: Dean Kent

Emergencies: Rory Taggert, Daniel Cross, Darren Jolly.

[Adam The God 30,603]

Hodge? I'm going to leave it in Grimes is Great's capable hands. I like Watts up forward, but he is a great kick. I just assumed the 'one position' Roos talked about was up forward but who knows.

Roos mentioned he'd have Watts on the wing for Round 1, during his article in the paper back in July. This is where Watts will play.

[Whispering_Jack 31,131]

I actually do love this time of year but we really need someone like Chilliboy to come back with some of his outrageous, far-fetched and unlikely trades. The stuff being put forward around here is simply mundane.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Swallow is Jack Viney Mark 2.......crazy good.

Competitive beast who crunches contests.

He'd be an amazing get.