Seems to me that Roos isn't unhappy with Mahoney and Jackson gave him the trial in the position that he didn't really need to do. If we were to find a replacement you'd think we'd do it now rather than in a few weeks in the middle of the trade and Free Agency period.

What's everyone's thoughts with Josh?

Personally I like him. He's smart. Smart enough to realise he wasn't cut out for coaching, especially under Neeld and went and did extra business courses and headed in to a footy business/administration career.

Of course he has the link to Schwab and Neeld as well as lack of experience against him. But we have an experienced head coach in Roos. An experienced recruiter (even if he hasn't been the number 1 guy for long) in Jason Taylor and I believe Viney is heading up list management now (he's never had a very defined role). Not to mention our assistant and development coaching is set for a big overhaul with a senior assistant, an experienced assistant in Allison and hopefully George Stone heading up development. Does it not make sense to stick with Mahoney as the admin guy and back Roos' leadership and the rest of the team to revamp the footy department?

I have no idea if he's any good or even what a "GM of footy ops" actually does.. but I have 100% faith in PJ and Roos securing the right man for the position.

Heard him speak in Perth and his over-use of business speak was cringeworthy imo. I think he's read too many books and needs an opportunity to put it into action. Whether he gets that opportunity with a decent CEO to report in to remains to be seen.

He certainly has the drive to do well and you have to admire that.

From what I've read though it would appear that Geoff Walsh has more runs on the board.

I think Walsh would be the preference, but if he declines, I actually think Mahoney would make a capable alternative.

He's acting in the job so he is going to be mentioned by Roos and PJ as we need a Footy Head in the off-season.

If and when PJ gets that last position he wants some experience in then I don't know what they have in mind for Mahoney.

Maybe another succession plan?

Or perhaps he will sent away aswell.

I would say it is decidely up in the air.

Yesterday on SEN the Ox was definitively stating that Walsh will be GMFO, repeatedly.

The others were making a joke of it, asking if it had been officially announced yet.

Not the greatest source, but make of that what you will.

I work with a friend of Josh's wife who told me a couple of weeks back that he was a good chance of keeping the role if they secured Roos.

We'll wait and see I guess.

If it's a done deal that they've secured Geoff Walsh, as many seem to be saying, then I'm curious to know what they'd be waiting for in terms of announcing it, given that he's already left Collingwood and their season is now over?

Wasn't Walsh in the US attempting to help his son get settled on a college punting scholarship?

  On 12/09/2013 at 03:28, Machiavelli said:

Wasn't Walsh in the US attempting to help his son get settled on a college punting scholarship?

always bet red

never gamble on horses/the jockeys can talk

  On 12/09/2013 at 03:28, Machiavelli said:

Wasn't Walsh in the US attempting to help his son get settled on a college punting scholarship?

Yep

I don't think Josh is a strong character as a manager.

I thought he was a good footballer.

A rank line coach

He was put in the role of FM and has held that position for 12 months.

He still has a lot of learning to do.

If we need to sort out the FD properly we need a strong GMFO with EXPERIENCE

  On 12/09/2013 at 03:19, Machiavelli said:

Yesterday on SEN the Ox was definitively stating that Walsh will be GMFO, repeatedly.

The others were making a joke of it, asking if it had been officially announced yet.

Not the greatest source, but make of that what you will.

There is no reason to delay announcing the position other than Walsh returning and confirming he has the job. Mahoney is keeping the seat warm.

Walsh is the last piece of the puzzle.

  On 11/09/2013 at 05:36, rpfc said:

He's acting in the job so he is going to be mentioned by Roos and PJ as we need a Footy Head in the off-season.

If and when PJ gets that last position he wants some experience in then I don't know what they have in mind for Mahoney.

Maybe another succession plan?

Or perhaps he will sent away aswell.

I would say it is decidely up in the air.

I might be wrong, but I thought that PJ made a comment along the lines that we might re-evaluate who we put in as GMFO now that we have secured Roos. I got the feeling that he was indicating that we might not need to get someone like Walsh with Roos there... it could have been a misinterpretation on my behalf.

Edit: I think he said it in the Presser where they announced Roos btw.

The problem with Walsh as GMFO is he's not available yet IIRC. I think he's available from 1 November to satisfy the three-month window on football staff.

It's the only problem though.

  On 12/09/2013 at 06:53, Oucher said:

I might be wrong, but I thought that PJ made a comment along the lines that we might re-evaluate who we put in as GMFO now that we have secured Roos. I got the feeling that he was indicating that we might not need to get someone like Walsh with Roos there... it could have been a misinterpretation on my behalf.

Edit: I think he said it in the Presser where they announced Roos btw.

That's the impression I got too. PJ said he would be re-evaluating the job, but that's not to say that he's changed his mind.

I think the appointment of Roos bodes well for Mahoney, but, if we had the opportunity to get a highly experienced GMFO in Walsh, why wouldn't we take that option?

PJ talked about the 4 positions he wanted to fill in that presser - Prez, CFO, Coach, and GMFO.

It sounded decidedly like he was not done because he said the GMFO was the last one he had to get to.

  On 12/09/2013 at 08:06, rpfc said:

PJ talked about the 4 positions he wanted to fill in that presser - Prez, CFO, Coach, and GMFO.

It sounded decidedly like he was not done because he said the GMFO was the last one he had to get to.

Totally agree RPFC.

If they wanted a GMFO why would they appoint JM.

He would have been happy to carry on with the lowly paid FM

A GMFO would be a highly paid position, with a lot more responsibility.

Now slightly off the subject my main concern, is what is the succession plan to replace PJ at the end of 2014.

I just shake at thought of who we get. Could it be another CS. Or do we get the AFL overseeing it for a few more years.

  On 12/09/2013 at 09:14, Chippy said:

Totally agree RPFC.

If they wanted a GMFO why would they appoint JM.

He would have been happy to carry on with the lowly paid FM

A GMFO would be a highly paid position, with a lot more responsibility.

Now slightly off the subject my main concern, is what is the succession plan to replace PJ at the end of 2014.

I just shake at thought of who we get. Could it be another CS. Or do we get the AFL overseeing it for a few more years.

Id be surprised if it isn't the recently appointed CFO de Crespny (sp?). Has previously worked at AFL

  On 12/09/2013 at 09:14, Chippy said:

Totally agree RPFC.

If they wanted a GMFO why would they appoint JM.

He would have been happy to carry on with the lowly paid FM

A GMFO would be a highly paid position, with a lot more responsibility.

Now slightly off the subject my main concern, is what is the succession plan to replace PJ at the end of 2014.

I just shake at thought of who we get. Could it be another CS. Or do we get the AFL overseeing it for a few more years.

  On 12/09/2013 at 10:43, the master said:

Id be surprised if it isn't the recently appointed CFO de Crespny (sp?). Has previously worked at AFL

I think PJ will stay on at least while Roos is at the club so we should have him for 2015/16 and he will have a succession plan well in place by then.

I thought PJ had stated that he is already training his replacement?

I still think after Roos coaching he will be our GMFO.

  On 12/09/2013 at 22:00, Gorgoroth said:

I thought PJ had stated that he is already training his replacement?

I still think after Roos coaching he will be our GMFO.

i really hope so

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One poster thinks Roos will be CEO, others GMFO, there was a mention in the papers he could be a paid Board member, and I think we should get him to play the role that Craig was doing.

He's doing everything after these three years are up.

  On 12/09/2013 at 22:36, rpfc said:

One poster thinks Roos will be CEO, others GMFO, there was a mention in the papers he could be a paid Board member, and I think we should get him to play the role that Craig was doing.

He's doing everything after these three years are up.

I heard he was doing a boot studding course.

Seems like the answer is yes according to M Robbo on twitter