On 21/08/2013 at 03:04, tatu said:

Jurrah would bring out the crowd.... I know of at least 10 people that havent been going to footy, that would if Jurrah was there.... Surely the AFL would allow us to pre-list him, on to our rookie list.... They allow Collingwood to do this with Marty Clark.... Why not Jurrah for us? Its a small step for them.. But a big boost in crowd numbers for us....

Good point...

Hypothetical: The AFL Commission agrees to giving MFC a conditional Priority Pick. The condition is that we must take Liam Jurrah with that pick and no-one else. Is that a win for the MFC?

  On 21/08/2013 at 03:44, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Hypothetical: The AFL Commission agrees to giving MFC a conditional Priority Pick. The condition is that we must take Liam Jurrah with that pick and no-one else. Is that a win for the MFC?

No because given Liam's past season and a half, he won't be in great demand.

I feel sad for him but that's what happens when you get involved in the mess he created for himself.

  On 21/08/2013 at 00:42, Curry & Beer said:

and go at least a month without committing a crime of some sort

Bit stiff

  On 20/08/2013 at 06:49, Demonfan26 said:

we will be an oppositions nightmare if we get a midfield

Like we were going to be a very hard team to play against under MN... ?

There would be a list a mile long of things he would need to tick off. Attitude towards a greater work ethic is one, probably one of the smaller ones.

Like many the head says no but the heart says yes. Everyone deserves a second chance at happiness and to make it in the world, he would have to leave everything behind from the NT not just physically but emotionally. About a month ago I said to my dad that Liam appeared to be in a free fall for which he wouldn't recover from, perhaps football could be his salvation as it was for Krakouer.

I would advocate a rookie list spot, where he pretty much had to complete a full season at Casey. But he would have to show he's willing to work his ass off for it amongst other things.

  On 21/08/2013 at 05:34, Pates said:

I would advocate a rookie list spot, where he pretty much had to complete a full season at Casey. But he would have to show he's willing to work his ass off for it amongst other things.

how do you guarantee he won't just hop a plane home if he feels like it

I would love it but due diligence needs to be done first. If he comes back and falls over, then we might do more harm than good.

As Stuie said earlier, and I can the club alot, it's great to see the club have been genuinely concerned for his welfare. Kudos.

I think we all know the answer.

At least for this offseason.

But a good season of footy and the ability to stay out of prison really does wonders for a prospective recruit...

  On 21/08/2013 at 05:40, Curry & Beer said:

how do you guarantee he won't just hop a plane home if he feels like it

How can you guarantee Col won't be at the Cas on Thus nights til 4am? You can't but we take it as part of the process. It is free market and people can do what they like they are not surfs of the club.

Will he come back... meh can't see it and that would be worth a book update!

  On 21/08/2013 at 05:40, Curry & Beer said:

how do you guarantee he won't just hop a plane home if he feels like it

Pretty simplistic comment to make. I and most others have have said that there would be a myriad of conditions he would have to meet so no I can't guarantee he won't hop on a plane, but we wouldn't jump into this blind. The new coach would interview him and do a risk/reward assessment and if there's more reward than risk then why not? It's more than likely not to happen, but my heart does skip a best at the thought of him in red and blue again.

  On 21/08/2013 at 05:34, Pates said:

There would be a list a mile long of things he would need to tick off. Attitude towards a greater work ethic is one, probably one of the smaller ones.

Like many the head says no but the heart says yes. Everyone deserves a second chance at happiness and to make it in the world, he would have to leave everything behind from the NT not just physically but emotionally. About a month ago I said to my dad that Liam appeared to be in a free fall for which he wouldn't recover from, perhaps football could be his salvation as it was for Krakouer.

I would advocate a rookie list spot, where he pretty much had to complete a full season at Casey. But he would have to show he's willing to work his ass off for it amongst other things.

This post sums it up well for me. We've already shown a lot of faith in and support for Liam. He'd have to do an amazing amount of work to get another shot. Would like to see it, but truly doubt it will. Hope I'm wrong.

Rudeboy was a great poster, and even after Liam had left he was happy to answer PM's about Liam's welfare, and passed on well-wishes from posters!

I doubt he could give any insight into a potential AFL return, but an update on Liam's health and well being would be great!

  On 20/08/2013 at 16:40, Demonstrative said:

Cant believe anyone would even mention Casey!! He is the most uniquely talented player ever to wear the red and blue.

A combination of Melbourne player mismanagement and community/private turmoil (in that order) combined to see us lose a rare talent. If we have chance to get him back, which I dont think we really do, then for god's sake - let him play 4 quarters of AFL football once a week.

Bizarre hyperbole in the first paragraph and complete rubbish in the 2nd paragraph about player mismanagement.

The past McLardy/Stynes mismanaged a lot of critical areas in the MFC but the Club's support of the player and home community of Jurrah from start to when he walked out on the Club was a high point and should be congratulated.

While I understand the issues that Jurrah had, his treatment of the Club was appalling after all it had done for him.

And if he did get another chance he is soo far off AFL standard fitness, strength and endurance (even at his best) that he would be no certainty to make it back.

High maintenance and a proven risk he needs at least 2 good years in a lower league with no off field issues to be even considered.

  On 20/08/2013 at 09:46, LegsLeoncelli said:

Was very well supported first time 'round (despite what some on DL "think"), buggered up and then still gave us the shaft.

No.

No.

And no.

  On 20/08/2013 at 09:46, LegsLeoncelli said:

Was very well supported first time 'round (despite what some on DL "think"), buggered up and then still gave us the shaft.

No.

No.

And no.

I agree with this. I have personal knowledge of how much support he had last time. I don't think it could have been stronger. It would take a lot for him to prove he is worth the effort. I would like to think he has it in him to prove his worth, but I'm very, very skeptical.

I don't know how I missed this thread.....

Jurrah for Couch?

  On 20/08/2013 at 07:08, Chook in Perth said:

  On 20/08/2013 at 05:55, RalphiusMaximus said:

It could be a good thing, although we do have a glut of forwards at the moment. I could see us with Jurrah on one wing and Watts on the other though. Could be interesting.

Jesus the opposition would love it when we turn it over. They'd go coast to coast without either player getting out of jog.

Jesus we would love it when the opposition turn it over. We'd go coast to coast without either player getting out of jog.

Can we also bring back The Ox?

  On 21/08/2013 at 03:44, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Hypothetical: The AFL Commission agrees to giving MFC a conditional Priority Pick. The condition is that we must take Liam Jurrah with that pick and no-one else. Is that a win for the MFC?

It could be if we get him for our 7th Round pick or as a rookie as I suspect your hypothetical is a bit tongue-in-cheek suggesting he would be No. 1 pick. If we listed him again, we could alternate him in the team with Howe and in that way at least ewe can get highlights on the evening news each week.

  On 20/08/2013 at 06:17, Geddy Lee said:

Rather him on our list than Dan Nicholson.

Notwithstanding the highlights reel and the compelling narrative about his journey to AFL, I'd rather we picked Tom Rockliff in the 2009 pre-season draft (who had been training with us) than Liam Jurrah.

That said, word has it, Rory Sloane was also a lock in at pick 35, but yet again we failed to play the percentages.

Rockcliff and Sloane would be very handy for us right now.

  On 21/08/2013 at 21:56, Ron Burgundy said:

Notwithstanding the highlights reel and the compelling narrative about his journey to AFL, I'd rather we picked Tom Rockliff in the 2009 pre-season draft (who had been training with us) than Liam Jurrah.

That said, word has it, Rory Sloane was also a lock in at pick 35, but yet again we failed to play the percentages.

Rockcliff and Sloane would be very handy for us right now.

Do you think that the AFL will give us a priority pick in this year's "HIndsight Draft"?

the easiest solution to giving mfc priority picks would be just to assign all essendrug's forfeit draft picks to the mfc

that way no-one else is impacted

everyone happy

  On 21/08/2013 at 23:32, daisycutter said:

the easiest solution to giving mfc priority picks would be just to assign all essendrug's forfeit draft picks to the mfc

that way no-one else is impacted

everyone happy

give this man a cigar

  On 21/08/2013 at 21:47, CBDees said:

It could be if we get him for our 7th Round pick or as a rookie as I suspect your hypothetical is a bit tongue-in-cheek suggesting he would be No. 1 pick. If we listed him again, we could alternate him in the team with Howe and in that way at least ewe can get highlights on the evening news each week.

I wasn't being tongue in cheek. I was trying to crystalize the argument about his value. Obviously not very well.

  On 20/08/2013 at 12:24, fndee said:

At his best Liam was brilliant to watch and the fact we stole him from the Pies made him almost perfect. He could do things on the field that seperated him from even other indigenous players and Stevie J.

If he reformed his past ways every team would take him. If not he is a distraction that our club can't afford. Classic risk versus reward

?????

or did they send him to us? no, I think they realised the difficulties & cut him some slack, a lot of it.

# the key now is just how deeply has he learned, & how much does he want to be a Real AFL footballer?