Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[ThreeOneSix 953]

The Bombers will be in the clear, because ASADA cannot even interview Dank.

Because he isn't involved with Cronulla or Essendon anymore and if he refuses to be interviewed - then ASADA can't interview him.

So, becaues of Dank, Essendon dodge a bullet.

ASADA is obviously [censored] and will go after whatever they can get, which will be Sir James, who under ASADA rules hasn't breached them.

But, what might stump Essendon, just judging by what I hear in the media, is the injection regime - clearly 40 times for a young player is too much.

So the rigorous injections might get them and players like Reimers and past players giving evidence will be what gets Hird and co.

Players should be fine I would think.

[dees189227 11,254]

Someone told me he did this a few years ago. He did it out of the boot of his car. I didnt believe the person but holy hell. Thank god we ignored him.

Its a shame our team cant look at essendon and the way they get together as a team and unite. Bloody hell I cannot believe they have beaten freo. Freo were all over them in the 1st half. Now essendon are 3-0. Holy well cant they just start losing.

[The heart beats true 16,643]

Regardless of what Hird has done in the passed the AFL will find a way to punish him.

He brings a guy with a very shady passed into the club and then gives him carte blanche to jab the players with untested supplements, and goes on to brag about its success.

If the tanking investigation has taught us anything it's that you don't get in trouble to the letter of the law, you get in trouble according to the court of public opinion and the damage it does to the AFL brand.

Andy D will make sure Hird goes down.

[Outside fifty 967]

AFP can interview Dank. Any time they want

Edited April 12, 2013 by Outside fifty

[Jara 1,153]

Yep. Look how they respond to an off-field crisis.

I'd kind of been blaming our own off-field crises for our poor performances - not so sure, now. Maybe they're a test of character (one we failed)

[biggestred 4,420]

GAME CHANGER

and dont forget the IVs

[Pennant St Dee 11,764]

I hate Essendon, but I admired watching them tonight, stuck together as a TEAM, backed each other up and attacked every contest with a fantastic intensity. Both sides were actually hard at it all night. Players giving everything for the coach. Yes I hate them but I would love our boys to stand up and hit every contest like that. Players like Hocking and Howlett are the types we could have done with picking up in the drafts years ago, skinny project types as opposed to guys who are just hard and never give up that is a glaring deficiency we have now.

Hocking would be a nightmare to play against I watched him tonight every bump was with intent to hurt the opposition or at least make him earn a possession, he was desperate as were his teammates in their attack on the loose ball. Cmon Dees time to lift you may lack some skills but have a look at both these sides tonight for the non-negotiables.

Edited April 12, 2013 by Pennant St Dee

[3183 Dee 2,656]

I hate Essendon, but I admired watching them tonight, stuck together as a TEAM, backed each other up and attacked every contest with a fantastic intensity. Both sides were actually hard at it all night. Players giving everything for the coach. Yes I hate them but I would love our boys to stand up and hit every contest like that. Players like Hocking and Howlett are the types we could have done with picking up in the drafts years ago, skinny project types as opposed to guys who are just hard and never give up that is a glaring deficiency we have now.

Hocking would be a nightmare to play against I watched him tonight every bump was with intent to hurt the opposition or at least make him earn a possession, he was desperate as were his teammates in their attack on the loose ball. Cmon Dees time to lift you may lack some skills but have a look at both these sides tonight for the non-negotiables.

I agree - the manner in which the Bombers went about the 2nd half was exemplary. Actually not dissimilar to our effort against them last year, in terms of fight and going hard at it, but with far greater ball skills.

Much as I love to hate them, you've got to admire their unflinching desire and belief in the middle of all the uncertainty and distraction.

[Chook 14,647]

Regardless of what Hird has done in the passed the AFL will find a way to punish him.

He brings a guy with a very shady passed into the club and then gives him carte blanche to jab the players with untested supplements, and goes on to brag about its success.

If the tanking investigation has taught us anything it's that you don't get in trouble to the letter of the law, you get in trouble according to the court of public opinion and the damage it does to the AFL brand.

Andy D will make sure Hird goes down.

I never do this, but I just can't stop myself from correcting you on your inexplicable usage of the word "passed" when you really mean "past." The English language deserves better than that, and so do we.

Edited April 12, 2013 by Chook

[rjay 24,182]

His response was a bit misleading, because he twice said that it's not illegal for a coach to take a banned substance. Strictly speaking, this is correct. Only athletes can be disciplined for taking a banned substance.

However, he left out the issue of possession. I imagine that any official would claim that possession is only for personal consumption. But the AFL code does not stipulate the purpose of possession; it simply states that possession is a breach, both for players and officials. It carries the same penalty as use for a player.

I doubt that the AFL wants to go down this path.

Thanks 'Brian'.

[Flying Cloud 152]

Interesting comment on SEN just then, missed who said it.

Seems there are a lot of people who believe Dank is not telling the truth when he gave Hird banned substance, but is telling the truth when he says he didn't inject players with any banned substances.

[Jara 1,153]

God I'm getting sick of hearing ex-players, mates, talk-back callers etc defending Saint James

Ok, innocent until proven guilty and all that, but I reckon he's seriously weird. Implementing a drug regime that sounds absolutely disgusting. Pigs friggin brains? Hanging out with Doctor Ageless. What sort of effing idiot goes and has a creep like Dank jab him in the guts because he's feeling a bit rundown? If I'm feeling run down I have a fruit juice.

(maybe I'm just jealous at the respect his players have for him - they'd walk on broken glass for him - reminds me of how important it is for players to respect their coach - another reason I reckon Neelds hopeless - I reckon Malthouse runs around recommending his assistants for coaching jobs because he knows they'll be his opposition one day)

[LegsLeoncelli 162]

7:30

ABC1 now

[LegsLeoncelli 162]

he sent us an email. big whoop.

And also, it shows that people in the club (including players) were willing to push the boundaries on multiple fronts, when they should have been worrying about learning to play footy.

So get your 'big whoop' and shove it where the sun don't shine.

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

Just announced on Fox Footy ... breaking news story coming up.

Wait for it...

[What 18,810]

oh christ, i am scared

[S.R.J 418]

The suspense is killing me

[Moonshadow 16,572]

Jamar instructed to mark and kick the ball?

[Gorgoroth 12,431]

John Ralph just said they believe Dan bates will be stood down.

It's all about the lies and cover up.

Expecting the news from Melbourne in 10-15 mins

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

John Ralph just mentioned that Dan Bates will be stood down or sacked

AFL now not worried that the drugs are not illegal but pretty [censored] that we lied..

More news coming up again..

ASADA expected to investigate the club

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

But apparently there is more to come..

[Jaded No More 59,791]

I hate everyone.

[Gorgoroth 12,431]

Board is seething.

Neeld, Craig, Mahoney, Schwab and McLardy at the meeting where they denied Dank being involved with the club, board did not know it seems.

[What 18,810]

John Ralph just mentioned that Dan Bates will be stood down or sacked

AFL now not worried that the drugs are not illegal but pretty [censored] that we lied..

More news coming up again..

ASADA expected to investigate the club

AFL now not worried that the drugs are not illegal but pretty [censored] that we lied..

Well from what we know so far, it was 1 person that lied - Dan Bates.

Hopefully it is that simple.

[Gorgoroth 12,431]

The football department is going to be gone over by Gill McLaughlin.