List Management - 2013

[Young Dee 1,303]

Long time reader, first time poster so be kind!

The Melbourne Football Club needs to address that the playing list is unsustainable and large list changes are critical to begining the new path for the club.

At this time, the MFC should be planning an approach on James McDonald, appoligising for their mishandeling of the situation while attenpting to endorse the club by working in the development of our young draftees.

So if the club is to delist and trade large amounts of its list, which in my opinion is required, maximum gain must be found. I have found what I think is a fair way for the club to extract some decent talent from this years NAB Draft and trade period.

I am assuming the club is given a priority pick, and while I dont nessercerally agree that early draft picks extract higher chances of future legends, just look at Geelong. In 17 years the highest pick for the cats was 7 - used on Joel Selwood. This is while the MFC have squanded most of its drafting for over ten years.

This, however will change the game.

National Draft Pick 2 - Best inside midfielder in TAC Cup

Priority Pick 5 - R.Slone (Adelaide)

National Draft Pick 21- Inside midfielder in TAC Cup

National Draft Pick 40 - Small Backman

National Draft Pick 63 - Forward/Back

National Draft Pick 81 - Upgrade Magner

Melbourne Trades:

J.Fitzpatrick + Pick 21 - J. Martin

Aaron Davey - Pick 60ish

Jamar - Pick 50ish

Tapscott - Pick 50ish

Delist (no value whatsoever, dead waste)

Dunn

Rodan

Gillies

Joel MacDonald

Bail

Sellar

Go away - your not wanted here ........ jokes

Welcome to the looney bin!

A place where you will no doubt waste countless hours and be aware of it.... but you just can't stay away!

Good first post (don't agree with tapscott or Jamar tho - we need back up ruckman)

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

would be stoked if we got sloane for pick 5 haha

[Red Demon 67]

Melbourne Trades:

J.Fitzpatrick + Pick 21 - J. Martin

Sorry, Jack Martin??!!!

GC wouldn't accept Jack Viney + pick 21 for Martin. They would probably be sceptical to take Hogan + 21 for him.

Martin will make O'Meara look like Stephen Kenna next year.

[Philthy 284]

KEEP: Jones x 2, Terlich, Garland, T.McDonald, Frawley, Hogan, Clark, Dawes, Howe, Grimes, Trengove, Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Toumpas, Viney, Kent, Barry, Clisby, Sylvia, Evans, Pederson (Only because of his f*cking contract)

IN LIMBO: Taggert, Tynan, Davis & Stark

TRADE BAIT: Jamar, Blease, Watts, Dunn, McKenzie, Spencer, Nicholson, Tapscott, Jetta,

DELIST: Gillies, Rodan, Byrnes, Sellar, J.Macdonald, Bail, Couch, Magner, Davey (Retired)

FREE AGENCY: Chase Thomas, Elllis, Dal Santo & Stokes.

TRADE PERIOD TARGETS: Rory Sloane, David Mundy, Nick Suban, Jared Polec, Jack Redden, Scott Pendlebury, James Kelly, Taylor Adams, Brad Sewell

Possible Deals (Assuming we have picks 1,3 & 19) in draft

Fremantle: David Mundy & Nick Suban - Jack Watts and Pick 1

Adelaide: Rory Sloane- Pick 19 or Bernie Vince - Pick 19

GWS: Taylor Adams and Dylan Shiel and Pick 2- Pick 1, Jamar and Pick 19

[GIRO 63]

Assuming we get priority pick

Watts and pick 19 to Carlton for Lucas and yarran

Pick 1 to Fremantle for Fyfe

Pick 3 to Adelaide for Sloane

Free agent J Corey

[titan_uranus 25,045]

Watts and pick 19 to Carlton for Lucas and yarran

The hardest, toughest, most courageous player in that trade is Watts.

He's also more talented than the other two put together.

I wouldn't touch that trade with a ten foot pole.

Edited August 4, 2013 by titan_uranus

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Okay guys interested in opinions, should we before the start of 2014, table an offer of 3-5 years 700k-1mil a year to james frawley to sign an extension?

for mine he is our most important player besides Hogan now, we need to lock both up ASAP if we can, imo Hogan is probably a safer bet than Frawley, hearing he is loving Melbourne, but as a club we need to be good enough to keep guys like this

thoughts?

[Young Dee 1,303]

Okay guys interested in opinions, should we before the start of 2014, table an offer of 3-5 years 700k-1mil a year to james frawley to sign an extension?

for mine he is our most important player besides Hogan now, we need to lock both up ASAP if we can, imo Hogan is probably a safer bet than Frawley, hearing he is loving Melbourne, but as a club we need to be good enough to keep guys like this

thoughts?

Who is he mates with at Melbourne?

I think he and Watts are close - may depend on What Watts does.

If I was him or Watts I wouldn't be signing any contracts until I knew what I was getting into (so I wouldn't blame him if he waited to see if we show improvement next year)

Edited August 5, 2013 by Young Dee

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Who is he mates with at Melbourne?

I think he and Watts are close - may depend on What Watts does.

If I was him or Watts I wouldn't be signing any contracts until I knew what I was getting into (so I wouldn't blame him if he waited to see if we show improvement next year)

No idea who he is close with, but i suppose when you're at a club for a few years you'd be reasonable mates with most people, you'd have to think signing Roos would improve our chances of keeping blokes like this?

[Roger Mellie 4,103]

Who is he mates with at Melbourne?

Howe - although mates with many

[Theo 276]

The hardest, toughest, most courageous player in that trade is Watts.

He's also more talented than the other two put together.

I wouldn't touch that trade with a ten foot pole.

Robert Shaw, Mark Fine and talkback callers yesterday from Carlton agree. These guys and Betts go missing when the heat is on.Would not touch any of them.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Let's assume we get pick 1 and 3

we i like the idea of trading pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

trade Jack Watts to Carlton for pick 9

Trade Mark Jamar and 3rd round pick to GWS for Anthony Miles

free agents we sign, Xavier Ellis and Adam Cooney ( may have to pay slightly overs )

Delist: Sellar, Gillies, Rodan, Davis, Tynan, Jetta, Magner, couch.

have picks 3,9,12,19,37,55

draft:

#3 Matt Scharenberg ( reckon he will be an absolute star )

#9 Matt Couch ( This years ollie wines )

#12 Dom Sheed ( inside/outside, great skills, great leader )

#19 Luke Dunstan ( another in an under type )

#37 Zac Jones (

Jones is ultra-reliable; he is clean, polished, composed and very consistent. Jones is your new-age hybrid defender; in the mould of an Alan Toovey cross with a Michael Hibberd, Jones has a beautiful set of hands, loves to take intercept marks, whilst playing close checking football. Jones as a defender will offer clubs plenty of versatility in his role across half back. He plays tall and small, need is say more?

#55 Dayle Garlett ( worth a punt? )

In's: Sidebottom, Cooney, Ellis, Miles, Scharenberg , Couch, Sheed, Dunstan, jones, Garlett

Best 22 imo

B: Jones Frawley Garland

HB: Terlich Mcdonald Grimes

C:Scharenberg Jones Toumpas

HF: Cooney Dawes Hogan

F: Sylvia clark Howe

Fol: Gawn Viney Sidebottom

Int: Trengove, Couch, Ellis

Sub: Sheed

makes some real battles for spots all over the lineup

I think this is realistic and would improve our side alot,

thoughts?

[Adam The God 30,421]

Let's assume we get pick 1 and 3

we i like the idea of trading pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

trade Jack Watts to Carlton for pick 9

Trade Mark Jamar and 3rd round pick to GWS for Anthony Miles

free agents we sign, Xavier Ellis and Adam Cooney ( may have to pay slightly overs )

Delist: Sellar, Gillies, Rodan, Davis, Tynan, Jetta, Magner, couch.

have picks 3,9,12,19,37,55

draft:

#3 Matt Scharenberg ( reckon he will be an absolute star )

#9 Matt Couch ( This years ollie wines )

#12 Dom Sheed ( inside/outside, great skills, great leader )

#19 Luke Dunstan ( another in an under type )

#37 Zac Jones (

Jones is ultra-reliable; he is clean, polished, composed and very consistent. Jones is your new-age hybrid defender; in the mould of an Alan Toovey cross with a Michael Hibberd, Jones has a beautiful set of hands, loves to take intercept marks, whilst playing close checking football. Jones as a defender will offer clubs plenty of versatility in his role across half back. He plays tall and small, need is say more?

#55 Dayle Garlett ( worth a punt? )

In's: Sidebottom, Cooney, Ellis, Miles, Scharenberg , Couch, Sheed, Dunstan, jones, Garlett

Best 22 imo

B: Jones Frawley Garland

HB: Terlich Mcdonald Grimes

C:Scharenberg Jones Toumpas

HF: Cooney Dawes Hogan

F: Sylvia clark Howe

Fol: Gawn Viney Sidebottom

Int: Trengove, Couch, Ellis

Sub: Sheed

makes some real battles for spots all over the lineup

I think this is realistic and would improve our side alot,

thoughts?

I don't mind it, although I wouldn't trade Watts for simply a draft pick. I'd also go really hard at Sewell.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

I don't mind it, although I wouldn't trade Watts for simply a draft pick. I'd also go really hard at Sewell.

Thanks mate, I was working on the theory Watts will want to go and that's the best deal we could get for him, if he stays i'd maybe look at trading pick one for Rocliff and pick 5

[ThreeOneSix 954]

Thanks mate, I was working on the theory Watts will want to go and that's the best deal we could get for him, if he stays i'd maybe look at trading pick one for Rocliff and pick 5

Pick 9 for Watts is a realistic trade.

Sides get a ready made, versatile player who hasn't fulfilled his talent - yet looks more than capable.

We get pick 9, which gives us access to a very good player.

On Rockcliff and Sidebottom, both their clubs would see pick one as enough, no extra needed.

I believe Sidebottom is worth pick 1, Rockcliff and Rory Sloane would just fall short of pick 1.

[drdrake 3,187]

3 retired 7 to go

Retired: Davey, J MacDonald, Rodan

Delist: Bail, Seller, Davis, Gillies, Magner, Couch

And one of Sylvia or Watts will leave.

Hogan and Clisby claim 2 spots

Leaves 6 senior and 3 rookie spots, wouldn't mind keeping Davis as a rookie

5 draft picks and 1 traded in player

[Fat Tony 5,272]

3 retired 7 to go

Retired: Davey, J MacDonald, Rodan

Delist: Bail, Seller, Davis, Gillies, Magner, Couch

And one of Sylvia or Watts will leave.

Hogan and Clisby claim 2 spots

Leaves 6 senior and 3 rookie spots, wouldn't mind keeping Davis as a rookie

5 draft picks and 1 traded in player

Surely better to keep Clisby on the Rookie list another year if possible. And Bail is contracted.

[rpfc 28,779]

Surely better to keep Clisby on the Rookie list another year if possible. And Bail is contracted.

Depends what is out there I guess.