Harrington gone

[Jarka 767]

Today on Finey's morning show (KB on hols) Tony Sheahan said that the MFC and Port are in a race to sign Mathew Drane as GMFO.

Sorry mate, excuse my ignorance but who is Mathew Drane? Can you give some background info on him please?

[DeeSpencer 25,671]

Today on Finey's morning show (KB on hols) Tony Sheahan said that the MFC and Port are in a race to sign Mathew Drane as GMFO.

Matthew Drain even.

But yeah Tony Sheahan with the exclusives as always - actually what was that - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/experienced-administrator-matthew-drain-could-head-melbournes-football-department/story-fnca0u4y-1226660996530

But yes Drain has a good background working with Essendon with Jackson (and possibly Mark Williams I'd guess) then moving to the dogs and helping them rebuild with Eade coaching then moving on to St Kilda to work with Ross Lyon in 2008 - bit of a Paul Roos connection.

As for Harrington being made redundant due to costs that would've played a role but to me there is certainly a performance basis to this decision as well. Otherwise despite our financial position why would you not keep him until the trade period this year so all his knowledge of the free agents/contracts/draft class etc can be utilised. That said I don't necessarily think he's bad but it sounds like he's not great!

With Viney taking on some strange role this year in development (?what does he do) and Taylor recruiting you think Viney and the new GM be that Drain or otherwise could be in charge of list management.

Viney and Craig are both very hard ones to place under the new administration. I'm not sure where they quite fit. I'd actually use Viney as a senior assistant coach even if that means he has to coach Jack. Without a recruiting or list management background it seems a waste to use him in that role.

The way I see it new senior coach, new GM and Taylor are the 3 most important people to get us back up and running on field.

[jazza 1,323]

Sorry mate, excuse my ignorance but who is Mathew Drane? Can you give some background info on him please?

ran a plumbing firm in moonee ponds

and then worked at essescum

[Cards13 9,117]

ran a plumbing firm in moonee ponds

and then worked at essescum

At least he knows how to clean up [censored]... and good to see he was a plumber too!

[Mono 455]

I've always been doubtful that Harrington is responsible for decisions like that. I can't see how anyone other than the coach can be responsible for the "who" side of the list. I though Harrington would be more about the "how" side.

To that end, I don't know what this actually means. From the quotes from Jackson ("reflective of costs") it sounds as if it will be replaced with a less senior role; List Analyst or somethingnlike that.

Probably "list manager" role will be combined with another. Also depends on what the "list manager" does at MFC? If contracts are handled by Footy Head, then there is plenty of room to combine roles.

[Canplay 634]

I'd be surprised that there'd be a battle for Drain. Hasn't been able to find a job in footy for about last 2 years.

Footy manager with Kevin Sheedy at Essendon, Footy Manager at Bulldogs with Eade (short stint) and then moved to Saints as head of list management and left their list completely our of whack when he left (both in aging of list and salary cap pressure). Seen him go backwards over time - not sure worth fighting over.

[Maldonboy38 6,397]

How messy and dysfunctional does our football department structure sound in the middle of all this? Lots of little chiefs with great titles sharing roles with each other causing horrendous and clumsy overlap, with no-one quite sure where the boundaries of their job meets with the next bloke. On top of this, a reporting structure that reminds me of all the muppet characters asking Kermit questions at the same time, expecting clarity and decision making. And on top of this, as the layers are unfolded, we see our most recent CEO being revealed as a management dunder-head.

I was really sucked in. I thought with our moving to Aami park, venture into Darwin, initiative into Casey to build a new supporter base, that our management were making good decisions, but the more PJ reveals the more angry and astounded I get.

It all seems like a cross between the Goodies, Yes Minister, the Marx brothers and Sponge-bob Square Pants. What a debacle.

2013 is gone for me. Wimbledon tennis and the Ashes cricket will have to do me until next year. Shame, MFC, shame.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

How messy and dysfunctional does our football department structure sound in the middle of all this? Lots of little chiefs with great titles sharing roles with each other causing horrendous and clumsy overlap, with no-one quite sure where the boundaries of their job meets with the next bloke. On top of this, a reporting structure that reminds me of all the muppet characters asking Kermit questions at the same time, expecting clarity and decision making. And on top of this, as the layers are unfolded, we see our most recent CEO being revealed as a management dunder-head.

I was really sucked in. I thought with our moving to Aami park, venture into Darwin, initiative into Casey to build a new supporter base, that our management were making good decisions, but the more PJ reveals the more angry and astounded I get.

It all seems like a cross between the Goodies, Yes Minister, the Marx brothers and Sponge-bob Square Pants. What a debacle.

2013 is gone for me. Wimbledon tennis and the Ashes cricket will have to do me until next year. Shame, MFC, shame.

all those things are still good,whats wrong with aami park and venture into darwin, just because somethings are not working does not mean everything is a fail,

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,742]

ran a plumbing firm in moonee ponds

and then worked at essescum

Serious? Drain and plumbing? Match made in heaven.

[jazza 1,323]

Serious? Drain and plumbing? Match made in heaven.

it was BAIT

[Maldonboy38 6,397]

How messy and dysfunctional does our football department structure sound in the middle of all this? Lots of little chiefs with great titles sharing roles with each other causing horrendous and clumsy overlap, with no-one quite sure where the boundaries of their job meets with the next bloke. On top of this, a reporting structure that reminds me of all the muppet characters asking Kermit questions at the same time, expecting clarity and decision making. And on top of this, as the layers are unfolded, we see our most recent CEO being revealed as a management dunder-head.

I was really sucked in. I thought with our moving to Aami park, venture into Darwin, initiative into Casey to build a new supporter base, that our management were making good decisions, but the more PJ reveals the more angry and astounded I get.

It all seems like a cross between the Goodies, Yes Minister, the Marx brothers and Sponge-bob Square Pants. What a debacle.

2013 is gone for me. Wimbledon tennis and the Ashes cricket will have to do me until next year. Shame, MFC, shame.

all those things are still good,whats wrong with aami park and venture into darwin, just because somethings are not working does not mean everything is a fail,

I agree those things were really good and have posted about it before. But they fooled me into thinking that the management team were doing a good job across the board, when really almost everything else was dysfunctional.

[jimbo1982 94]

If you simply did your job why would you feel awkward

Being incapable of doing your job is a different matter

In a football club where your in a competition your expertise is always under scrutiny

IMO a 3 year deal for Pederson is a blunder

99% of supporters think so but the list manager doesn't ?

Show him the door i say

What he said, what he said, what he said!!!!

[jimbo1982 94]

How messy and dysfunctional does our football department structure sound in the middle of all this? Lots of little chiefs with great titles sharing roles with each other causing horrendous and clumsy overlap, with no-one quite sure where the boundaries of their job meets with the next bloke. On top of this, a reporting structure that reminds me of all the muppet characters asking Kermit questions at the same time, expecting clarity and decision making. And on top of this, as the layers are unfolded, we see our most recent CEO being revealed as a management dunder-head.

I was really sucked in. I thought with our moving to Aami park, venture into Darwin, initiative into Casey to build a new supporter base, that our management were making good decisions, but the more PJ reveals the more angry and astounded I get.

It all seems like a cross between the Goodies, Yes Minister, the Marx brothers and Sponge-bob Square Pants. What a debacle.

2013 is gone for me. Wimbledon tennis and the Ashes cricket will have to do me until next year. Shame, MFC, shame.

Lets hope the new test cricket coach can inspire the players too!!!

[Demonsterative 3,020]

I'm so confused around the structures at the club I have no idea if what PJ is doing is right or not. When Craig came to the club and was given his title the MFC attempted to explain his role/duties on the club website. I was baffled then and still are. Was Vineys role different to Harringtons? Is anyone doing Craig's role now his is interm Head Coach? Who were the 4 employees reporting to CS? I was under the impression that Craig reported directly to the board to minimise CS's influence over the FD. This was reported after 186 and when Craig was appointed

[Lordweaver 235]

Theres an article on MFC.com.au. Apparenlty Jackson says its less about performance and more about reducing costs, ie. the position was a waste of money

BS, if he was any good he would have a job, sayonara

[Jonesbag 487]

Thank god for action Jackson!

[old dee 23,787]

Thank god for action Jackson!

Amen to that.

It just shows how bloody hopeless we have been the last decade.

Amateur hour

[Jack7 528]

CS had 4 staff reporting to him directly to cut out the middle man and save the club 100k+ per year.

Probably a good idea when we were 5M in debt but not good in hindsight.

[Demonsterative 3,020]

CS had 4 staff reporting to him directly to cut out the middle man and save the club 100k+ per year. Probably a good idea when we were 5M in debt but not good in hindsight.

Maybe CS should have cut the middle men down to 1 to save $500.000. Not sure what your pointing out here!

[Slartibartfast 17,257]

2013 is gone for me. Wimbledon tennis and the Ashes cricket will have to do me until next year. Shame, MFC, shame.

Why walk out when it's getting into shape. That's strange indeed.

[mjt 640]

CS had 4 staff reporting to him directly to cut out the middle man and save the club 100k+ per year.

Probably a good idea when we were 5M in debt but not good in hindsight.

Thats rubbish , CS had four people reporting to him so he had control over the whole FD, the guy was destructive and one the worst Administrators the clubs ever had, even after 186 the guy still couldn't help himself, PJ has done more in 2months than CS achieved in 6years.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,046]

This.

Step 1 in particular.

[baysidedave 246]

Feel for the guy when you read things like: "Harrington will be the fall guy for many of last year's controversial recruits, including David Rodan, Shannon Byrnes and Tom Gillies, although he was overruled on some of those by then coach Mark Neeld."

Also, find it hard to believe Jason Taylor is "under pressure", hasn't even had a chance to show what he can do yet. Although, it could just be because Todd did such a good job with last years draft I guess.

Its not just last years recruits, they aren't the real problem, its all the stuff-ups with early draft picks for the previous 3 years.

[baysidedave 246]

Its not just last years recruits, they aren't the real problem, its all the stuff-ups with early draft picks for the previous 3 years.

and should have taken Wines last draft.

Edited June 25, 2013 by baysidedave

[titan_uranus 24,992]

and should have taken Wines last draft.

Ugh.