MadAsHell 4,217 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Curious as to what people think what deals we might get invovled in for the final week of trade period? Obviously we'll look to get the Pedersen deal done. Would love to get Ray and after today's Age article I haven't given up hope, Pedersen deal is sounding like it's going to be a 3 way deal with Roos and Port. Morton & North Melbourne's Pick 38 to Port Adelaide Ben Jacobs to North Melbourne Pedersen to Melbourne Martin & Pick 49 to St Kilda Ray & Pick 57 to Melbourne Would leave us in the draft with: Pick 4: Wines or O'Rourke Pick 27: Viney (FS) Pick 57: Andrew Boston, Paul Marschall or Mason Woods Pick 60: Jake Neade, Shannon Taylor or Will Hams Pick 70: Dan Nicholson (rookie upgrade) Edit: Updated 22/10/12
old55 23,865 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Hopefully Pedersen is across the line and that makes Martin even more tradable. I'd like us to pick up a ready-to-go mid- I'd be happy with Ray. Wouldn't surprise me if we drafted a mature player from outside the AFL with our 3rd pick.
titan_uranus 25,257 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I'm with Old. Bring Pederson in, then send Martin out, and use whatever we get for Martin to bring in a mid.
Bendigo Demon 115 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I have nothing against either player, and they may do well at other clubs, but I'd be happy to trade either Martin or Petterd. Martin, because he doesn't seem to understand his role within the game, and does almost zero one percenters that I believe a Ruckmen must do. Petterd because he is inconsistent. I would love Ray at the club. He has been in an elite system which has produced excellent results. He would be able to help us transition to where we need to be, and be a solid citizen for our young blokes to learn from.
Tatu 416 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 If we trade Martin to Brisbane........ Martin and pick 49, for pick 24(Stringer hopefully).....
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I could be massively wrong on this point, but I think recruiting Dawes has made Petterd's skills more relevant to our forward line. Petterd cannot seem to hold the first or second tall position in our forward line. That said, I think next to Clark, Dawes and Byrnes, there is now a role for a leading type, mid sized forward like Petterd. I think he could add dimensionality to our forward line now. Will be disappointed to see him traded.
Sir Why You Little 37,478 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Interesting point Ron. Does Petterd now have a job working with Twin Towers? Just a thought.
monoccular 17,761 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 01:43, Ron Burgundy said: I could be massively wrong on this point, but I think recruiting Dawes has made Petterd's skills more relevant to our forward line. Petterd cannot seem to hold the first or second tall position in our forward line. That said, I think next to Clark, Dawes and Byrnes, there is now a role for a leading type, mid sized forward like Petterd. I think he could add dimensionality to our forward line now. Will be disappointed to see him traded. (re Petterd): I guess all will depend on whether he has "bought in" (horrible expression) to the Neeld mantra, AND, possibly more so as he didn't show a lot physically last season (?injury or just not fit), if Missen and Craig think he is physically up to the job. If either of those questions gets a "no" then I would be very happy if we can get anything for him, anything at all.
Gouga 570 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I would retain Petterd and play him on the HBF.
thaipantsman 180 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 2012 WAS a shocker for many. Petterd and Martyn included. Ricky's been forced to play the big man't role for some time and opposition block him. C and D will help Ricky out here and Davey may well breath again.
deeflog 679 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 02:44, Gouga said: I would retain Petterd and play him on the HBF. his skill level is not good enough for that position
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Pettard and Davey are no longer up to AFL standard.
Grimseyisgod 378 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 03:10, jumbo returns said: Pettard and Davey are no longer up to AFL standard. pretty harsh. Davey isnt that bad, Pettard is not that bad. we arent going to get broughton. Hopefully martin goes and we get someone/something for him because he is just another player who isnt consistent
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,389 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Petterd has played a couple of A grade games and had a couple of moments in other games people remember. People then forget that the majority of his remaining 50 odd games have been below AFL standard. He doesn't consistently work hard enough and is not quite good enough to make a position his own.
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 04:39, big_red_fire_engine said: Petterd has played a couple of A grade games and had a couple of moments in other games people remember. People then forget that the majority of his remaining 50 odd games have been below AFL standard. He doesn't consistently work hard enough and is not quite good enough to make a position his own. What he said
dee-luded 2,959 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 01:43, Ron Burgundy said: I could be massively wrong on this point, but I think recruiting Dawes has made Petterd's skills more relevant to our forward line. Petterd cannot seem to hold the first or second tall position in our forward line. That said, I think next to Clark, Dawes and Byrnes, there is now a role for a leading type, mid sized forward like Petterd. I think he could add dimensionality to our forward line now. Will be disappointed to see him traded. I agree, & I think key to Ricky Petterd's MFC career is where the footy dept see Howe & Sylvia's starting positions. If they're both across the centreline, I think Ricky is handy.
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 04:06, Grimseyisgod said: pretty harsh. Davey isnt that bad, Pettard is not that bad. we arent going to get broughton. Hopefully martin goes and we get someone/something for him because he is just another player who isnt consistent I'm punishing myself by watching all the replays ... Ricky's token game was rubbish and Davey was shocking all year. Time to move on with these two.
DeeZee 7,496 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 02:44, Gouga said: I would retain Petterd and play him on the HBF. I agree, that's where he played his best footy when he first started with us. He was fearless and attacking, then he punctured his lung and nearly died. When he came back he was used as a forward and did a couple of good things but not as good as when he played down back. Last season he was injured and never really got going. I've always liked him.
The Lobster Effect 900 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 06:39, jumbo returns said: I'm punishing myself by watching all the replays.... All 22 of them? That's, err, commitment!
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 06:52, The Lobster Effect said: All 22 of them? That's, err, commitment! Thanks TLE....a very 'diplomatic' response
The Lobster Effect 900 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 06:55, jumbo returns said: Thanks TLE....a very 'diplomatic' response Yep! Do you at least try and soften the blow with whiskey, mood lighting and maybe some background buddhist relaxation music?
monoccular 17,761 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 03:10, jumbo returns said: Pettard and Davey are no longer up to AFL standard. I would tend to agree, provided that their 2012 problems were not due to fitness / injury issues that have been addressed to the satisfaction of Missen and Craig.
Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 The game's gone past petterd. It's played in a shoebox with no space for forwards to lead into. He doesn't have the pace to beat his opponent in a sprint back towards goals. At the moment you are best to play 3 hulks that split packs and take contested marks, and 3 mosquitoes who rove the packs and tackle.
monoccular 17,761 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 07:55, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said: The game's gone past petterd. It's played in a shoebox with no space for forwards to lead into. He doesn't have the pace to beat his opponent in a sprint back towards goals. At the moment you are best to play 3 hulks that split packs and take contested marks, and 3 mosquitoes who rove the packs and tackle. I agree with the strategy: what we desperately need are the mosquitos. But who are they? Burnes? Barry, sometime, maybe. Jetta if he has a heart to heart with his ?cousin / 'brother' / namesake at Sydney?, Davey revived? The hulks Clark, Dawes, Hogan in 2014, ?who else now. ?Pedersen?
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 On 20/10/2012 at 07:16, The Lobster Effect said: Yep! Do you at least try and soften the blow with whiskey, mood lighting and maybe some background buddhist relaxation music? Whale songs, a crisp, light chianti and some scented candles.....
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