BP Nicholson Frawley Garland

HB Watts T Mcdonald Davey

C Blease Jones F Ray

HF Sylvia Clark Howe

FF Byrnes Dawes Pederson

R Jamar Grimes Viney

INT Trengrove Mckenzie Bail SUB Wines

I love having fun with the side, but this could be close enough to the side we put out on the park in round 1.

Of course injurys come into play also and F Ray may not make it over to the dees.

If we go out with similar side like this we are not going to be a walk over like 2012.

#1 We have strong bodied,tall forward line.

#2 Quick run and spread players like Blease, Byrnes, F Ray* Davey if he gets his body right.

#3 Midfield that can rotate forward Jones, Grimes, Trengrove Bail, Howe, Sylvia all can play mid/forward

#4 And also this is one more preseason under Dave Misson players like Grimes, Trengrove, Howe, Watts, Blease,

#5 We are going to be stronger and matured,

Save to say I am excited are you?

I'm going to wait until our final list lodgement to do this. We don't know about players like Rivers, Dunn, Dawes, Wines, Pederson, Ray etc. It could look a lot different.

B: Garland Frawley Dunn

HB: Tapscott. McDonald Watts

C: Blease. Grimes. Trengove

HF: Byrnes. Dawes. Howe

F: Davey. Clark. Peterson

R: Jamar. Jones. Sylvia

Int: Viney. Mckenzie. Toumpas/Wines

Sub: Bail

Emerg: Seller. Nicholson. Gysberts

Nearly every small man on your team has /had an issue at some time.

It occurs to me that we actually NEED Neville Jetta in the team.

I cant see Tappscott going backwards either.

Heres mine-assuming a full list ,injury free ,which never happens.

B Garland Frawley Tappscott

HB Strauss Tom Mc Watts

C Blease Jones Jetta

HF Sylvia Clark Howe

F Trengrove Dawes Vines/Toumpas

Foll Martin Viney Grimes Sub Rodan

Inter Pedersen ,Byrnes ,MCKenzie

BP Nicholson Frawley Garland

HB Watts T Mcdonald Davey

C Blease Jones F Ray

HF Sylvia Clark Howe

FF Byrnes Dawes Pederson

R Jamar Grimes Viney

INT Trengrove Mckenzie Bail SUB Wines

I love having fun with the side, but this could be close enough to the side we put out on the park in round 1.

Of course injurys come into play also and F Ray may not make it over to the dees.

If we go out with similar side like this we are not going to be a walk over like 2012.

#1 We have strong bodied,tall forward line.

#2 Quick run and spread players like Blease, Byrnes, F Ray* Davey if he gets his body right.

#3 Midfield that can rotate forward Jones, Grimes, Trengrove Bail, Howe, Sylvia all can play mid/forward

#4 And also this is one more preseason under Dave Misson players like Grimes, Trengrove, Howe, Watts, Blease,

#5 We are going to be stronger and matured,

Save to say I am excited are you?

So you have Jamar swapping with ????? Are you expecting Dawes to play 2nd ruck from Full forward??

Best to wait til list lodgement. Its a long summer,,,,

So you have Jamar swapping with ????? Are you expecting Dawes to play 2nd ruck from Full forward??

Best to wait til list lodgement. Its a long summer,,,,

Pederson could play that role couldn't he?

Agree with Good Times Grimes and jnr mac. Too early. Not even half way through trade period and FA still a week to go. Plus a draft. I'll wait until our list is more complete.

BP Nicholson Frawley Garland

HB Watts T Mcdonald Davey

C Blease Jones F Ray

HF Sylvia Clark Howe

FF Byrnes Dawes Pederson

R Jamar Grimes Viney

INT Trengrove Mckenzie Bail SUB Wines

I love having fun with the side, but this could be close enough to the side we put out on the park in round 1.

Of course injurys come into play also and F Ray may not make it over to the dees.

If we go out with similar side like this we are not going to be a walk over like 2012.

#1 We have strong bodied,tall forward line.

#2 Quick run and spread players like Blease, Byrnes, F Ray* Davey if he gets his body right.

#3 Midfield that can rotate forward Jones, Grimes, Trengrove Bail, Howe, Sylvia all can play mid/forward

#4 And also this is one more preseason under Dave Misson players like Grimes, Trengrove, Howe, Watts, Blease,

#5 We are going to be stronger and matured,

Save to say I am excited are you?

Trengove starting on the bench? outrageous

I also like that you've added players who are currently at other clubs

Trengove starting on the bench? outrageous

I also like that you've added players who are currently at other clubs

Neeld started Trengrove on the bench this year, OUTRAGEOUS? hardly, Have you seen who starts on the bench for Collingwood each week?

Its the modern game, starting on the bench and coming on 3 minutes into a game what is the difference?

Was a flip between him and Viney and it was just my opinion to go with Viney.

Other players such as Pederson and Dawes which alll reports say are 85% or more going to play with the dees in 2013, and F Ray who I stated may not make it over to us??

Get with it mate

Agree with Good Times Grimes and jnr mac. Too early. Not even half way through trade period and FA still a week to go. Plus a draft. I'll wait until our list is more complete.

I went a little early I know, Tim Harington is cooking up a storm.

As the ancient saying goes - don't count your chickens until they have done the presser.

Neeld started Trengrove on the bench this year, OUTRAGEOUS? hardly, Have you seen who starts on the bench for Collingwood each week?

Its the modern game, starting on the bench and coming on 3 minutes into a game what is the difference?

Was a flip between him and Viney and it was just my opinion to go with Viney.

Other players such as Pederson and Dawes which alll reports say are 85% or more going to play with the dees in 2013, and F Ray who I stated may not make it over to us??

Get with it mate

i didn't agree with him starting on the bench then and i don't now, no need to get all up in arms about it. You're telling me round 1 2013 you want one of your captains on the bench? I think you should "get with it"

As the ancient saying goes - don't count your chickens until they have done the presser.

Timeless wisdom from the ancients.

i didn't agree with him starting on the bench then and i don't now, no need to get all up in arms about it. You're telling me round 1 2013 you want one of your captains on the bench? I think you should "get with it"

I believe we started a game this year with both Grimes and Trengove on the bench!

B: Nicholson, Frawley, Garland

HB: Tapscott, Watts, McDonald

C: Trengove, Grimes, Blease

HF: Howe, Dawes, Sylvia

F: Jetta, Clark, Byrnes

R: Jamar, McKenzie, Jones

I: Gawn, Magner, Davey, Bail

We need a closest to the pin competition here; I have probably got about five wrong!

The teams suggested are interetsting but I iook at them and wonder what an opposition coach would think. Without significant improvement by some players it's still not daunting. I can see them winning a few more games but not challenging for a top 8 position. Somebody please tell me I'm wrong?

ps There are a handfull of players that would be lucky to be named on the bench of a top team.

B: Nicholson, Frawley, Garland

HB: Tapscott, Watts, McDonald

C: Trengove, Grimes, Viney

HF: Howe, Dawes, Sylvia

F: Blease, Clark, Byrnes

R: Jamar, McKenzie, Jones

I: Pederson, Strauss, Tynan, Ray

Emg: Davey, Wines, Dunn, Sellar, Bail

Reckon Dunn, Sellar, Bail, Tapscott and Nicho will be alternating week in week out.

I'm going to wait until our final list lodgement to do this. We don't know about players like Rivers, Dunn, Dawes, Wines, Pederson, Ray etc. It could look a lot different.

exactly

Strauss Frawley Sellar

Tapscott Mcdonald Garland

Byrnes Sylvia Trengove

Watts Pederson Howe

Dawes Clark Blease

Jamar Jones Grimes

Viney Mckenzie Morton Wines

Strauss Frawley Garland

Nicholson McDonald Watts

Viney Jones Grimes

Sylvia Dawes Howe

Blease Clark Pedersen

Jamar McKenzie Trengove

Tapscott Byrnes Dunn

Sub: Pick 4

Emer: Magner Davey Jetta Bail Sellar Davey Ray* Tynan Taggert

I hope we do the deals that we've been planning - Rivers out if we can't keep him, Pedersen and Dawes in and Farren Ray in is an interesting one. I'm sure Neeld will be keen to play Ray and Byrnes if he gets them over because otherwise why would you bother? But it puts pressure on the likes of Bail, Blease and Tapscott to hold their spots. Whilst I'm sure our midfield depth will be much improved this year and the likely Viney/Wines combo hopefully adds 2 stars of the future we will rely on depth much more than talent next year.

For all the excitement about Viney etc, the team (in its various versions) is pretty mediocre, at best. We've got a long way to go in building a good list.

For all the excitement about Viney etc, the team (in its various versions) is pretty mediocre, at best. We've got a long way to go in building a good list.

Nevertheless, it's a massive improvement on what took the field this year.

I hope this draft/trade period will be look upon in future years as a rebirth. When we got rid of the chaff and started to recruit FOOTBALLERS.

As the ancient saying goes - don't count your chickens until they have done the presser.

And even then......

(Yes, I was just looking for a reason to post this)

It is too early to be doing this but I can't help myself.

B: Garland Frawley Strauss

HB: Dunn McDonald Watts

C: Howe Jones Trengove

HF: Tapscott Dawes Byrnes

F: Davey Clark Jetta

R: Jamar Grimes Sylvia

Int: Gawn McKenzie Viney

Sub: Bail or Tynan

Neeld appears to be a fan of Joel MacDonald so he will probably push one player out.

The list above is probably who I want to be in there, not who will be.

B: Nicholson, Frawley, Garland

HB: Tapscott, Watts, McDonald

C: Trengove, Grimes, Blease

HF: Howe, Dawes, Sylvia

F: Barry, Clark, Byrnes

R: Jamar, McKenzie, Jones

I: Viney, Gawn, pick 4 (fingers crossed on Wines), Bail

Neeld will msot definitely use Viney, pick 4.. i do think he will choose to use Barry before he decides to use Jetta, to develop Barry.

Its a very solid looking side with pick 4 being a midfielder (hopefully)