Is Lucas' future cooked?

[Sir Why You Little 36,616]

It was a football decision not a board one...

i know it was. But the board should live and die by such important decisions.

To stuff up once is fair enough. Twice means you haven't learnt.

The strategy stayed the same.

[Brayshaws' Helmet 143]

A month in the hole WYL. They kicked my meals under the door and flashed torchlights in my eyes at un-Godly hours to try and break my spirit. But there's a place inside they can't touch ...

Really? i heard that that is where that place inside does get touched

[Sir Why You Little 36,616]

A month in the hole WYL. They kicked my meals under the door and flashed torchlights in my eyes at un-Godly hours to try and break my spirit. But there's a place inside they can't touch ... that place where you continue to believe theat maybe, just maybe we'll strike gold with a couple of these draft picks!

As Andy Dufresne said in The Shawshank Redemption ... "Easiest time I ever did".

a month!! Geeberz you must have shared lines with Andrew Fraser for that time.

It has been quiet. Your quick wit no nonsense replies have been missed.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Lol straight back to your old ways RR, no change in the agenda hey? To be honest I'd prefer to have Atley than Darling if we could go back in time.

If we look at the net gain for this draft, IMO it has been one of our most successful in recent years. Aside from the Cook disaster, McDonald, Howe and McKenzie (promoted rookie) all look to be long term, good players for the club. I still have faith that Davis can make an impact.

Look, I probably did go a bit negative towards the end of the campaign but seriously ... off the back of the worst MFC season in living memory, what do powers-that-be expect ... pats on the back all-round?

But ... we live to fight another day and I for one am banking on 'Hulk' Hogan becoming the next Plugger Locket and whomever else we bring in this trade period having a massive impact in 2013.

Atley is a beauty isn't he? Norf lucked out there.

[Range Rover 1,935]

a month!! Geeberz you must have shared lines with Andrew Fraser for that time.

It has been quiet. Your quick wit no nonsense replies have been missed.

I got your back WYL. Don't let the man break you.

[pitmaster 3,446]

Yeh, if only we aimed higher under Bailey.... We would have been premiers! The kid was recruited as a project player. You are basing him, and the Bailey era, on one media out-take. We are not putting pressure on Hogan.... That also the work of Bailey?

Project players are supposed to come out of the back end or the draft, or better still, the rookie draft.

No first round pick should ever be a 'project player' fcs.

If that's what he is, it's a disgrace.

[McQueen 17,864]

So he's put 3kgs - oooh, let's denigrate him for working hard. FFS he came as a 76Kg 196 cm kid. So he's put 14kgs on in 2 years. So 3kg is not so strange in the scheme of things an d does not indicate either an increase or decrease of desire to play AFL.

I believe his delisting will depend on our trading in a tall or two.

Hogan is a year younger, the same height, but weighs 20 kgs heavier.

Somehow, I think we might have got it right this time around.

[Sir Why You Little 36,616]

I got your back WYL. Don't let the man break you.

That will not Happen...Following the MFC has toughened my outer skin....

But this time they Better GET IT RIGHT.....

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

And here I was thinking the drafting of Hogan would alleviate everyone's sorrow of the Darling/Cook screw up.

Never mind.... some people just can't let go.

I suggest you guys move the [censored] forward like MFC are trying to do.

Keep crying over Darling. I'll look forward to Viney, Hogan and Barry.

Cheers.

[Range Rover 1,935]

And here I was thinking the drafting of Hogan would alleviate everyone's sorrow of the Darling/Cook screw up.

Never mind.... some people just can't let go.

I suggest you guys move the [censored] forward like MFC are trying to do.

Keep crying over Darling. I'll look forward to Viney, Hogan and Barry.

Cheers.

We're moving on. But that doesn't mean we should forget what happened.

What's that saying about people who don't learn from their mistakes?

[old dee 23,486]

We're moving on. But that doesn't mean we should forget what happened.

What's that saying about people who don't learn from their mistakes?

Also RR

If you don't acknowledge your mistakes you are bound to repeat them.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

We're moving on. But that doesn't mean we should forget what happened.

What's that saying about people who don't learn from their mistakes?

They get a 4 week holiday from Demonland?

Nah... "they are destined to repeat them"..

What about this saying- no use dwelling on the past.

/thread

[old dee 23,486]

They get a 4 week holiday from Demonland?

Nah... "they are destined to repeat them"..

What about this saying- no use dwelling on the past.

/thread

Good saying SMF

The only problem is every time I see Darling kicking a goal the wound opens

[Sir Why You Little 36,616]

Sloonie...Point taken, but it is draft month...this is the time to discuss such things.

It looks like this time we have done a lot more drafting for the "now" this time around..Good, Great.

But those 2 picks 11-12 really put the club back some years...What was the strategy behind it?

That is what i want to know, so that it can NEVER be repeated again.

[dee-tox 4,835]

Billy Smedts.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

I'm sure many fans are barbecuing their no.21 jumpers as we speak

[Little Richard 6,213]

Good saying SMF

The only problem is every time I see Darling kicking a goal the wound opens

I'm sure the wound opens for a lot of other teams supporters too OD. Every team passed on him remember? It seems like Melbourne supporters have a bad habit of hanging on to the mistakes of the past. Put it this way - I highly doubt Darling would have us higher up on the ladder on his own... he would be lucky to be half the player at the MFC than what he is now.

I'm sure many fans are barbecuing their no.21 jumpers as we speak

If anyone had a number 21 put on their jumper you'd have to seriously question their sanity.

[poita 3,874]

Does anyone else get the sense that Cook is actually surprised that he is being delisted?

You would think a prolonged stint in the VFL reserves would wake most people up, but clearly Lucas is not quite as sharp as the average bear.

[deeko 952]

If anyone had a number 21 put on their jumper you'd have to seriously question their sanity.

What can I say, was a Don Cordner fan!

[Range Rover 1,935]

Put it this way - I highly doubt Darling would have us higher up on the ladder on his own... he would be lucky to be half the player at the MFC than what he is now.

I can never buy this line of thinking. It goes in the same basket as the "but he would have gone home to WA after two seasons" school of naysaying.

Darling would've been every bit the sensation at the Dees as he has been at WC. A real turnstile-clicker.

[Little Richard 6,213]

I can never buy this line of thinking. It goes in the same basket as the "but he would have gone home to WA after two seasons" school of naysaying.

Darling would've been every bit the sensation at the Dees as he has been at WC. A real turnstile-clicker.

What are you basing that on though?

I'm basing my point on the fact that he has seasoned, proven (quality) forwards like LeCras, Kennedy and Lynch as well as strong leaders around the club such as Embley, Kerr, Glass and so on. At the MFC there is no one, particularly in the forward area who could have taught him and mentored him. As well as that, a premiership coach, a very well credentialed football department and a notoriously strong club culture as opposed to our (I'm hoping now 'formally') crap heap.

No doubt all this stuff has contributed strongly to make Kennedy the player he is.

Ps. I believe being in his home state has positively contributed to his footy too. Not saying he would have gone home but playing close to home as opposed to a thousand kilometers would help.

[Range Rover 1,935]

What are you basing that on though?

I'm basing my point on the fact that he has seasoned, proven (quality) forwards like LeCras, Kennedy and Lynch as well as strong leaders around the club such as Embley, Kerr, Glass and so on. At the MFC there is no one, particularly in the forward area who could have taught him and mentored him. As well as that, a premiership coach, a very well credentialed football department and a notoriously strong club culture as opposed to our (I'm hoping now 'formally') crap heap.

No doubt all this stuff has contributed strongly to make Kennedy the player he is.

Ps. I believe being in his home state has positively contributed to his footy too. Not saying he would have gone home but playing close to home as opposed to a thousand kilometers would help.

To me he's not the type that needs coddling, tutoring or mentoring. He simply has "it".

[Little Richard 6,213]

To me he's not the type that needs coddling, tutoring or mentoring. He simply has "it".

You're delusional if you think a junior is going to come into the AFL and become a good player without any kind of coaching or mentoring.

[rjay 24,581]

No more JD please.....

[Range Rover 1,935]

With the imminent arrival of Dawes, I think the oven dial just got clicked to pre-heat for Cook.