A very good source has informed me that Eddie has been in contact with Vlad to try and set up a "Judd type" deal to Keep Cloke at the Filth.

A supporter is prepared to "sponsor" him as a third party.

This must not be allowed to occur.

The AFL has already said no to us last year.

Keep your eyes and ears open & if anything comes of it Vlad must resign.

I hope the MFC are onto it.

Everyone on this site seems to have a "very good source" on everything AFL apart from me!

Everyone on this site seems to have a "very good source" on everything AFL apart from me!

Better widen your social circle

The Judd deal is a disgusting rort of salary cap rules, from a club that has a history of rorting the salary cap (throwing stones in a glass house, I know). How they ever got this through, I'll never know. A Bomber friend of mine (I like to help the people sometimes) has a theory that the AFL copped too much flack for cracking down on Carlton's salary cap escapades and gave them this deal as a sweetener.

Better widen your social circle

sorry i obviously wasnt tounge in cheek enough. I dont think peoples sources are as good as they think they are

Everyone on this site seems to have a "very good source" on everything AFL apart from me!

Yes, but generally our guesses turn out to be just as accurate ;-)

The Judd deal is a disgusting rort of salary cap rules, from a club that has a history of rorting the salary cap (throwing stones in a glass house, I know). How they ever got this through, I'll never know. A Bomber friend of mine (I like to help the people sometimes) has a theory that the AFL copped too much flack for cracking down on Carlton's salary cap escapades and gave them this deal as a sweetener.

Even Carlton people are amazed the Judd deal still exists. Which is probably why Eddie is pushing hard...

Two wrongs don't make a right...

Wouldn't Cloke going to Carlton be a far more attractive offer to Vlad?

Carlton V Collingwood next year was already going to be huge, throw Cloke switching sides into the mix, the marketability and interest would be epic.

Wouldn't Cloke going to Carlton be a far more attractive offer to Vlad?

Carlton V Collingwood next year was already going to be huge, throw Cloke switching sides into the mix, the marketability and interest would be epic.

I don't care about that. I want Vlad accountable if a 3rd party deal is brokered.

It was vetoed last year.

If Eddie is panicking I can understand why.

IMO whenever Cloke has been down on form so have the Pies.

I know a team is more than one player

But Cloke makes their forward line without him they are average.

If he leaves who kicks the goals at Collingwood.

2013 and beyond without Cloke will become very ordinary for the Pies.

A small part of me wants Eddie to be successful with a deal for Cloke.

But a bigger part wants Cloke at Freo or Carlton.

I have heard that not only Judd, but many of his immediate family, are in the employ of the cardboard empire. Even including Mrs Judd (not the WAG).

Rort?

Two wrongs don't make a right...

But two Wrights make an aeroplane.

But two Wrights make an aeroplane.

Very Good 45HG16

Go to the top of the class.

Seriously how can the AFL be waiting for the Judd deal to expire to outlaw it???

I hope Cloke does leave, get those collingwood supporters off the high horse.

I hope Cloke stays. Gives us a chance at Wellingham.

A very good source has informed me that Eddie has been in contact with Vlad to try and set up a "Judd type" deal to Keep Cloke at the Filth.

A supporter is prepared to "sponsor" him as a third party.

This must not be allowed to occur.

The AFL has already said no to us last year.

Keep your eyes and ears open & if anything comes of it Vlad must resign.

I hope the MFC are onto it.

If they do allow it then they will be the biggest hipocrites! if they do it will be because its collingwood and they're too spineless to stand up to them and their supporters!!!

If they do allow it then they will be the biggest hipocrites! if they do it will be because its collingwood and they're too spineless to stand up to them and their supporters!!!

The exact reason it must be exposed if it is proven to be correct...

If they do allow it then they will be the biggest hipocrites! if they do it will be because its collingwood and they're too spineless to stand up to them and their supporters!!!

If they do allow it then they will be the biggest hipocrites! if they do it will be because its collingwood and they're too spineless to stand up to them and their supporters!!!

I'm sure the AFL Ethics Officer wouldn't let that happen (cough cough)

AFL

....ethics

hmmm

AFL

.....ethics

nuppp.. just cant get them on the same line !!!!

The Judd deal is a disgusting rort of salary cap rules, from a club that has a history of rorting the salary cap (throwing stones in a glass house, I know). How they ever got this through, I'll never know. A Bomber friend of mine (I like to help the people sometimes) has a theory that the AFL copped too much flack for cracking down on Carlton's salary cap escapades and gave them this deal as a sweetener.

I heard something similar. Disgraceful episode by the AFL.

Judd deal really smacks in the face of the salary cap ... should never have happened

Judd deal really smacks in the face of the salary cap ... should never have happened

True and they won't let it happen again, Eddie or not.

The Afl has allowed Luke Ball to manipulate the draft to end up at Collingwood, it has also allowed Carlton to rort the salary cap with Judd. Seems to me the big boys get away with whatever they want, but should Melbourne FC want to do a Judd like deal to keep Scully or manipulate the draft to get Viney at a later pick the AFL comes down hard.

The Draft and Salary cap are the only things keeping this comp remotely even, big clubs have boundless money compared to the minnows of the comp to spend on coaches, medicos, sports science, facilities, end of season altitude training trips. By letting the big boys abuse the only two systems in place it makes it impossible for small clubs to compete without begging members for money, the AFL should be ashamed.