Tim Harringtion says in an article on the AFL site that the club may part with one of its compensation picks, if right trade come available - Demons may trade early pick!

I get the feeling they are going hammer and tongs at Travis Boak.

Having thought about it i think we would better with him instead of Cloke. You only need 1 big forward these days and we need a top line midfield.

I'd pefer if we parted with pick 12 maybe a player!!! GO DEES

If there are some good deals to be done then i say Get rid of the top picks so there is no viney dilemma

The MFC obvoiusly seeks wisdom from this forum in all its dealings lol

In reality itjust seemed a logical path especially given last years dealings .

If there are some good deals to be done then i say Get rid of the top picks so there is no viney dilemma

How?

Not Jeremy.

Article on afl.com.au haven't got the link but Tim Harringtion saying they may part with one of there compensation picks, if right trade come avaliable!!! I get the feeling they are going hammer and tongs at Travis Boak.

Having thought about it i think we would better with him instead of Cloke. You only need 1 big forward these days and we need a top line midfield.

I'd pefer if we parted with pick 12 maybe a player!!! GO DEES

i agree and disagree. I agree we would be better off with Boak than Cloak (mainly because our mid field is the worst in the league) but the successful sides over the last 3-4 years have all had two big forwards and this is the current orthodoxy it would seem - Dawes/Cloke, Riewoldt/Kosi (successful is relative but they did make 3 GFs), Posialdly/Hawkins, Lynch/Darling-Cox (a stretch i know but they're been good over last season and a half), Franklin/Roughhead-Hale etc

Fair point Cloke and Dawes combo isn't really working this season in 2010 it was. They have had Blyar, Sidebottom and Fasolo giving them goals along with cloke Dawes has only kicked 9 for the year at full forward!!! We could really use another crumbing/ mid sized forward too. But invest in a real serious engine room!!!!

I say we use the picks 3,4 in the super draft and all other picks are to trade in for a Beams or wellingham or boak.

We are in a great postion to attack this FA and should move heaven and earth to fix our midfield so we can be the next westcoast.

I still think we have a strong 10 players on our current list that we can build a strong side around.

Trengove,Jones,frawley,Blease,Gysberts,Jamar,Grimes,Clark,Watts,Jurruh

If we can add 6 strong names to that list in 2013

Viney,Boak,Toumpas,Stringer,Wellingham,Knights

We could be playing finals in 2013 and having a real crack

Cloke will cost us nothing other than dollars.

Boak will cost Pick 4.

We need midfielders. Clark and Jurrah will be a great forward line to build around throw in Watts & Sylvia and bring in a crumbed and it is a pretty dangerous forward line. Would like to bring in an experienced mid like Boak but even getting a GC player like Caddy or Prestia would be good. Would prefer not to part with pick 3 or 4 though (unless in a Viney deal for a 17yo pick) and considering we got Clark for pick 12 no reason we shouldnt be able to secure a decent mid (Boak) for that.

I dont think so rpfc. Mid 1st round is more than anyone will give up.

Both would be great can we make it happen

We need midfielders. Clark and Jurrah will be a great forward line to build around throw in Watts & Sylvia and bring in a crumbed and it is a pretty dangerous forward line. Would like to bring in an experienced mid like Boak but even getting a GC player like Caddy or Prestia would be good. Would prefer not to part with pick 3 or 4 though (unless in a Viney deal for a 17yo pick) and considering we got Clark for pick 12 no reason we shouldnt be able to secure a decent mid (Boak) for that.

Dr, maybe you can answer me this one. What 17 year old that is eligible for this years mini draft (keeping in mind not all 17 year olds are eligible) is worth giving up pick 3 or 4 for, just so we can get Viney with a 2nd round pick?

We have absoloutely no chance of getting Cloke.

You only need 1 big forward these days and we need a top line midfield.

I'd pefer if we parted with pick 12 maybe a player!!! GO DEES

Cloke wants far too many dollars and I'd be very happy to recruit Boak, but every club in the competition would prefer two big quality key forwards as opposed to one.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if we trade away all our early picks for established players and get left with, say, a 3rd rounder as our first, we can take Viney with that, no?

If there are some good deals to be done then i say Get rid of the top picks so there is no viney dilemma

Dr, maybe you can answer me this one. What 17 year old that is eligible for this years mini draft (keeping in mind not all 17 year olds are eligible) is worth giving up pick 3 or 4 for, just so we can get Viney with a 2nd round pick?

Think you'll find that the father/son situation is sorted BEFORE players or picks can be traded. So we can't get rid of our first pick to push Viney to a 2nd rounder.

Cloke wants far too many dollars and I'd be very happy to recruit Boak, but every club in the competition would prefer two big quality key forwards as opposed to one.

I don't think Geelong would be chasing Cloke - pretty sure they'd be happy with the 2 tall forwards they have (who I wouldn't rate in the same class as Cloke).

Think you'll find that the father/son situation is sorted BEFORE players or picks can be traded. So we can't get rid of our first pick to push Viney to a 2nd rounder.

Absolutely it is sorted before the trade period. Some on here want to make "gentleman agreements" with GWS or GC prior to the F/S selections, so that they (GC/GWS) don't bid for Viney as there will be a "deal" coming their way from the MFC during trade week/month/how ever long it is these days. Of course, these deals can't be made public, as the AFL will consider it draft tampering.

FWIW, what sort of wage would Boak command? 500k?

Cloke will cost us nothing other than dollars.

Boak will cost Pick 4.

Boak won't cost Pick 4.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if we trade away all our early picks for established players and get left with, say, a 3rd rounder as our first, we can take Viney with that, no?

No!

I dont think so rpfc. Mid 1st round is more than anyone will give up.

The ladder position re Vic based clubs, for a Boak 'come home factor', says we are in a good position to offer our Mid 1st Rnd pick + some incentive.

We have the cap room to offer Boak a good financial package, & were not that far from the Surf Coast. Jonsey could show him the way down there.

Ladder re Victorian clubs picks, other than "comp picks" >>>

http://www.csse.mona...aflLadder.shtml

I say we use the picks 3,4 in the super draft and all other picks are to trade in for a Beams or wellingham or boak.

We are in a great postion to attack this FA and should move heaven and earth to fix our midfield so we can be the next westcoast.

I still think we have a strong 10 players on our current list that we can build a strong side around.

Trengove,Jones,frawley,Blease,Gysberts,Jamar,Grimes,Clark,Watts,Jurruh

If we can add 6 strong names to that list in 2013

Viney,Boak,Toumpas,Stringer,Wellingham,Knights

We could be playing finals in 2013 and having a real crack

I think the jury is still out Jim on whether this year will really be a super-draft or not

Pick 3 - Jake Stringer

Pick 4 - Dayne Beams

Pick 13 & Morton too GWS for Pick 1 U/17

Pick 23ish - Jack Viney

Trade Bennell & 3rd rounder for Koby Stevens

Trade Petterd & Spencer too Suns for

Bate too Bulldogs for 3rd round pick

Edited July 2, 201213 yr by jungle dee

Suggested elsewhere - 4 + 13 for Boak + 7 is a win-win deal for Port if he wants to leave and us if we really want him - assuming Port finish above the Dogs. Pick 7 should still deliver a decent mid.