beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 No one is safe at Melbourne I suppose on one level its a good thing they have realised the predicament and the consequence. But has it honestly taken them this long ??? oi vey !!! "Rivers said the youngsters knew it was time they stood up." my mind boggles... the youngsters ??? ffs
cowboy_from_hell 2,390 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 After reading the last two interviews that J.RIv has done I think he is one player who gets what they have to do as a team and I hope the rest get it by now.
Guest Spirit of 39 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 There seems to be a bit of urgency in what Jared is saying, something I have not detected at our club in a very long time.
Chook 15,068 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Jared Rivers seems to be the only senior player who has anything resembling a professional approach to the game. If he was indeed one of the players [censored] off at Schwab's over-involvement in on-field affairs, it's a testament to his character that he has been able to get over it and embrace the new set-up. The fact that he was kept in the leadership group shows this.
PaulRB 6,435 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 "The playing group has sat down to make a focus of these last 11 games." Maybe the leadership group is starting to build up some steam.
Squarky 10 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 "Rivers said the youngsters knew it was time they stood up." my mind boggles... the youngsters ??? I think you'll find Jared's statement about the youngsters was in response to a question asked by the journo. Something like: "Is it time the club got more from its highly-rated bunch of younger players?" It certainly reads that way.
rpfc 29,020 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Jared Rivers seems to be the only senior player who has anything resembling a professional approach to the game. If he was indeed one of the players [censored] off at Schwab's over-involvement in on-field affairs, it's a testament to his character that he has been able to get over it and embrace the new set-up. The fact that he was kept in the leadership group shows this. He was removed from the LG - only Jones and Grimes stayed. Your first line is correct but it also illustrates the low bar players have to reach to be a 'senior player with a professional approach.' He is playing better but the intimations that he didn't do all he could to get his body right a few years ago echo what I have heard and I am glad the 'penny has dropped' for him, I am. But I am more thankful we have Grimes, Jones, Clark, Garland, and Frawley in leadership - their pennies didn't need dropping.
nutbean 8,838 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Just for reference on "playing for your career". I know we have traded players still under contract - can anyone remember a "healthy" player cut from our list whilst still under contract ? (meaning the contract would have had to be paid out) edit - if the answer to the above is no - then no player is safe except for those under contract that no other club would trade for.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 I think you'll find Jared's statement about the youngsters was in response to a question asked by the journo. Something like: "Is it time the club got more from its highly-rated bunch of younger players?" It certainly reads that way. Im satisfied that we read things differently
H_T 3,049 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 "The club has given me 10 years and it's been great," Rivers said. "I am just focusing on trying to play decent footy for the rest of the year and we will see what happens after that, but I definitely want to be a one-club player." "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." "Success is definitely what drives me because we have been in a bad patch so long." My stomach just dropped.
hardtack 11,104 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 My stomach just dropped. Why? As long as he maintains his current form, Rivers is safe and will be going nowhere except possibly back into the leadership group.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 "Success is definitely what drives me because we have been in a bad patch so long." Now heres the thing....and for me it points towhat wrong with much thinking by so many playing in the red and blue Patches are an aberation to the norm.. they are a way to overcome a small shortcoming ...for a determined period of time before a proper replacement is substituted. Generally the notion of 'patch" and 'long" are separate. What Jared inadvertently highlights is that this has been our culture....not a patch. There simply has to be change..... maybe its started.
hardtack 11,104 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 "Rivers said the youngsters knew it was time they stood up." my mind boggles... the youngsters ??? ffs That part was not quoting Rivers as using the word "youngsters"... that was the Jon Ralph's word. It is obvious that he asked a question about the "youngsters" to which Rivers responded: "It definitely takes time for those guys, but it's time now. We have had enough time to get them going,".
Guest José Mourinho Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Oh, the players are on notice are they? Playing for their careers now, are they? FFS, the way the club has been going, the playing list has been in this precarious state for a couple of years running now...
hardtack 11,104 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 FFS, the way the club has been going, the playing list has been in this precarious state for a couple of years running now... Yes, but in the past they haven't been under the charge of former school teacher/disciplinarian, Neeld :-)
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 and its taken 9 months for these Einsteins to figure out theyve actaully been on notice all year...and that come seasons end some will get a DCM ?? bright lot...I feel so much better now !!
Guest Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 There was an old ALP campaign song from the 1970's that comes to mind when mentioning list pruning at Melbourne.
hardtack 11,104 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 There was an old ALP campaign song from the 1970's that comes to mind when mentioning list pruning at Melbourne. It's Time... Allison McCallum (former Freshwater vocalist)
Chook 15,068 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 He was removed from the LG - only Jones and Grimes stayed. Your first line is correct but it also illustrates the low bar players have to reach to be a 'senior player with a professional approach.' He is playing better but the intimations that he didn't do all he could to get his body right a few years ago echo what I have heard and I am glad the 'penny has dropped' for him, I am. But I am more thankful we have Grimes, Jones, Clark, Garland, and Frawley in leadership - their pennies didn't need dropping. He's not in the leadership group? Wow. In a way, that's even more impressive. Instead of sulking about being excluded (like some people), he's become an even better role model for the younger players. Good on him.
Little Richard 6,265 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." Hmm this sounds strangely like a threat.
rpfc 29,020 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." Hmm this sounds strangely like a threat. I think it is meant that he won't be wanted by a 2 and 20 team rather than him deciding to [censored] off...
Nasher 33,651 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." Hmm this sounds strangely like a threat. He means he'll be shown the door. It sounds like awareness of where he is at, rather than a threat.
rhaz 342 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." Hmm this sounds strangely like a threat. I interpreted it as him saying that we need to get better quickly so he can play finals before he is too old to keep playing.
hardtack 11,104 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 "I can see the light. We just need to get better quickly, or I won't be here ." Hmm this sounds strangely like a threat. Spoken like a true MFC supporter :-)
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 MFC or MFCSS ?? ( or whatever it bloody is..lol )
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