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Jetstar domestic flight and a silvertop taxi to AAMI Park.

You missed a sizeable step before that.

Step 1) Convince him to come? DONE - big bag of money.

Step 3) Transport him here? DONE - Jetstar domestic flight etc

Step 2) Conduct the transfer under AFL rules when his current club doesn't want to let him go? ???

I'll also add that I'm being VERY generous that the big bag of cash in step 1 got the job done. In reality I don't think we'd even make it to the mysterious Step 2, I reckon we'd struggle to stump up enough cash to entice him and stay within the salary cap, because it would take a lot. Players generally don't move for money unless it's an exorbitantly large amount (Scully like), and we won't be in a position to offer that.

This idea is nice from a "sticking it up 'em" point of view, but is severely lacking in the practicality department.

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    How about we use Pick 4 on Jake Stringer????

    and

    Pick 13 + a player too try and snare Dayne Beams????

    Pick 3 obviously to be used on Jack Viney unless we can get him at 2nd round.

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    You missed a sizeable step before that.

    Step 1) Convince him to come? DONE - big bag of money.

    Step 3) Transport him here? DONE - Jetstar domestic flight etc

    Step 2) Conduct the transfer under AFL rules when his current club doesn't want to let him go? ???

    I'll also add that I'm being VERY generous that the big bag of cash in step 1 got the job done. In reality I don't think we'd even make it to the mysterious Step 2, I reckon we'd struggle to stump up enough cash to entice him and stay within the salary cap, because it would take a lot. Players generally don't move for money unless it's an exorbitantly large amount (Scully like), and we won't be in a position to offer that.

    This idea is nice from a "sticking it up 'em" point of view, but is severely lacking in the practicality department.

    I'm hearing what you're saying but watching the big lad run around in that small five-sixths empty stadium, without much space to lead into, I dunno.

    The kid is built for the 'G'. I'd hate playing on that ground if I was him.

    Step 2 wasn't an issue for Kev and Gubby. Why should it be for us? Because we're Melbourne and we play fair and by the book?

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    He is literally the opposite of Jack Watts.

    Patton has a massive body but pin head. Watts has a massive head with a skinny body.

    Looked good. Cameron looked even better. Patton and Cameron. Wow. No wonder they don't want Cloke.

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    How bout we swap Scully for him?

    Oh, ummm, hang on.... would you believe...

    (apologies to Maxwell Smart)

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    Step 2 wasn't an issue for Kev and Gubby. Why should it be for us? Because we're Melbourne and we play fair and by the book?

    Okay, say that we have got Patton interested. What are you willing to offer up as a trade?

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    Silly dream. He won't leave, will see out his next contract, and at that stage a move for Patton is possible.

    I say try:

    Aaron edwards - foil for clarke, bandaid

    Sidebottom, montagna, goddard - $$$ may get them.

    Beams at less then those mentioned above

    Myles sewell, shane valenti, and yes even Brock Mclean.

    Fringe players from the hawks, carlton, WCE, essendon, geelomg

    Only spend big bucks to get a walk up star, and I think we could recycle a few more stop gaps like seller.

    Clarke so far value for coin.

    So 2 proven facts from this year are we (1) need quality ready to go midfielders and (2) we could do with a foild up foward for clarke like a A. Edwards or crameri or even a mcglynn type.

    Fingers croseed there is a few goodbyes, more quality kids, And a few more bandaides so kids can develop properly.

    Really? Going backwards?

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    I'm inclined to think we would be better off being realistic and chasing the type of players we need the most.

    We have a few young, tall key position prospects in development at the club and while the likes of Tom McDonald, Lucas Cook, Troy Davis and Jai Sheahan might not compare with Cameron and Patton, you never know what could happen given the right development path. These players are additional to those we already have who can fill key defence and key forward positions.

    On the other hand, we're dreadful in the midfield, particularly in terms of skilful midfielders who can run, spread and carry. This is the area where I would like to see us concentrate our recruiting resources in the immediate future both in terms of trading and drafting, If we can rebuild our midfield and make it more potent, there will be less pressure on our defence and more good delivery to our forwards. The result will, in my view, be a fairly rapid improvement in the team's fortunes.

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    Really? Going backwards?

    Not to mention Valenti.... Sidebottom is the only one off that list worth chasing, could talked around to beams. Goddard won't return enough for what we'd have to pay him

    Back to the OP, it won't hurt to thow the proverbial suitcase of cash at him. Indeed we'd be crazy not to double our chances and offer the same to Cameron, who will be every bit as good if not better

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    Move heaven and earth to get Cameron!!

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    How are we going to get him here?

    Close the eyes and wiggle the nose ?

    That's the 6.4 million dollar question.

    Was impressed with both Cameron and Patton today in greasy conditions.

    If we are talking priorities, the midfield is 'top of the tree' for priorities for mine.

    But if there is any way of planting a seed for down the track as a 'sleeper' approach (for the right moment down the track with picks/player) for any of the two mentioned it gets a green light from me. It would take a great deal of convincing though.

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    His contract runs out in 2014

    We offer hom 5mill for 5 years

    We trade with GC for first pick in the ore season draft

    He fls to Melbourne and moves in with Watts

    It's really not that hard

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    Get in his manager's ear now.

    5 mil for 5 years. Starting 2014.

    The ultimate payback.

    On the strength of today's effort, Patton will be playing finals come 2014.

    It makes my stomach churn to say it, but these kids are going to go a long way in a short time.

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    Okay, say that we have got Patton interested. What are you willing to offer up as a trade?

    A package of Morton, Bennell, Bate and Dunn plus a late second round pick should get the deal done.

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    A package of Morton, Bennell, Bate and Dunn plus a late second round pick should get the deal done.

    Sorry, but you're a dumb ****.

    Crap plus crap plus crap plus crap plus speculative pick does not equal a likely A grader. Surely you've been around long enough to know this ? Why do supporters package up fringe players and think that the quantity of shitness will evaluate to one potential star. You could package 10 C graders and it still wouldn't add up.

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    Sorry, but you're a dumb ****.

    Crap plus crap plus crap plus crap plus speculative pick does not equal a likely A grader. Surely you've been around long enough to know this ? Why do supporters package up fringe players and think that the quantity of shitness will evaluate one potential star. You could package 10 C graders and it still wouldn't add up.

    lol Ben Ben Ben ... I thought you were a bit quicker on a the draw than that.

    Heard of the expression 'tongue in cheek' ?

    C'mon my-man ... you're supposed to be A-list 'round here!

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    I'm inclined to think we would be better off being realistic and chasing the type of players we need the most.

    We have a few young, tall key position prospects in development at the club and while the likes of Tom McDonald, Lucas Cook, Troy Davis and Jai Sheahan might not compare with Cameron and Patton, you never know what could happen given the right development path. These players are additional to those we already have who can fill key defence and key forward positions.

    On the other hand, we're dreadful in the midfield, particularly in terms of skilful midfielders who can run, spread and carry. This is the area where I would like to see us concentrate our recruiting resources in the immediate future both in terms of trading and drafting, If we can rebuild our midfield and make it more potent, there will be less pressure on our defence and more good delivery to our forwards. The result will, in my view, be a fairly rapid improvement in the team's fortunes.

    Yep i absolutely agree. Our midfield is by far our biggest problem, it must be close to the worst in the league at the moment. In fact not close, it is the worst

    We need a bit of grunt obviously but perhaps more so we need some speed and players who have great hands and are top shelf kicks of the ball. Like a smaller version of wattsy (who has the best hands in the team and is also the best kick - i know i've said that before, i just can't stop) I know everyone needs that but we won't climb the ladder until we improve in the guts. We have enough big guys

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    Jeremy Cameron's going to be a star !

    Patton?...yeah, why not.

    Cheers.

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    Been seriously impressed with cameron since the first few rounds. I reckon he is going to be the afl's best key position player in 3 or 4 years

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    Either of these two would be a coup !

    The fact that we probably could not pull it off,

    does not mean we should not try and try hard,

    I think the move for Mitch has paid huge benefits for both MFC and MC

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    lol Ben Ben Ben ... I thought you were a bit quicker on a the draw than that.

    Heard of the expression 'tongue in cheek' ?

    C'mon my-man ... you're supposed to be A-list 'round here!

    What ? You want me to assume you're not an idiot and I have to guess when you're joking ? Then I subsequently read that Jeremy Cameron reminds you of Peter Bosustow ?

    Computer says no.

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