It shits me no end that people offer this up as a serious suggestion. Like our club hasn't lost enough respect as it is.

Surely, you jest! That's been the gameplan for 8 weeks. Expect a turn around when we play GWS.

It shits me no end that people offer this up as a serious suggestion. Like our club hasn't lost enough respect as it is.

That's the whole problem though - we care too much about what others think of us. Once we got called out for tanking we started second-guessing what we'd done and became guilty about it. Did Carlton? No. Why? Because they're Carlton and [censored] the rest.

Your a F!@#ing loser for even starting this post. You have given up. We will never win with this F!@#ed up ATTITUDE. Barrack for an other club, F!@# off.

We ARE tanking. Clearly we are good enough to come at least 15th.

Surely we will finish 16, 17 or 18 without the need to tank.

And I will say it once again - Jordan McMahon, not Bailey or any MFC player, kicked a bloody difficult goal after the siren to give us the opportunity to get $ulky and Trengove.

And anyway, what good have all these top draft picks done for us?

Essendon and Geelong, and Sydney have managed a resurgence without tanking, though Carlton made it an art form, and to a lesser extent Collingwood (just once) and Hawthorn.

I'd be for if if we could replace the entire list - not five or six players.

I would just be happy with players that want to play good hard honest football that give 100% all the time, not when they feel like it, and so far, they haven't felt like it......

And I will say it once again - Jordan McMahon, not Bailey or any MFC player, kicked a bloody difficult goal after the siren to give us the opportunity to get $ulky and Trengove.

True, but the only reason we let Richmond get close enough for him to kick that goal was because every time one of our players was beating his opponent he was moved to the bench or a position he wasn't suited to.

We should NEVER tank ever.

However, nor should Neeld deviate from his program and strategy to bring in the new template and test in real games who should be at the MFC next year and who should not.

And if that gives us the same result as tanking, i'd be Ok with it.

That is your opinin, not mine.

Obviously.

Obviously.

Good. Glad we cleared that up.

Good. Glad we cleared that up.

Me too captain obvious.

Children!

Ridiculous thread.

I have a somewhat perverted fantasy that we aren't actually this bad, we have just been tanking this season to set ourselves up for a dominant 10 year period.

It helps me sleep at night anyways. That and scotch. Lots and lots of scotch. Wwahhhhhhhhhhhh!

Single Malt works best

The results of tanking can be seen in the weekend's games. Carlton tanked, got 3 number one picks, pinched Judd from West Coast and thought the rest would fall in to place, well it didnt.

We thought the top picks we would get would revitalise the club and solve all our problems as well, but it seems that what they actually did was creat more.

Me too captain obvious.

Ha! Captain obvious, speak for yourself there sunshine.

How many names on Demonland are you up to? Whether posters on here agree with me or not, i have and always will be WYL.

Captain obvious i am not.

The results of tanking can be seen in the weekend's games. Carlton tanked, got 3 number one picks, pinched Judd from West Coast and thought the rest would fall in to place, well it didnt.

We thought the top picks we would get would revitalise the club and solve all our problems as well, but it seems that what they actually did was creat more.

Fair point Robbie. I don't think Carlscum will reach the top either. Close maybe. But hard work is always the answer.

I hope the MFC never forget it.

i have and always will be WYL.

Captain obvious i am not.

You got to Captain???

The results of tanking can be seen in the weekend's games. Carlton tanked, got 3 number one picks, pinched Judd from West Coast and thought the rest would fall in to place, well it didnt.

We thought the top picks we would get would revitalise the club and solve all our problems as well, but it seems that what they actually did was creat more.

*Cough*

Hawthorn in 2008

Tanking would assume that we could win, but are choosing not to.

I still maintain that we never tank-we just suck-and we should own it and keep trying to improve.

The tank you're having when you're not having a tank .

We'll still get blamed by all and sundry ! Especially if we get Viney with a 2nd rounder . Care factor zero .

Cheers

I have a somewhat perverted fantasy that we aren't actually this bad, we have just been tanking this season to set ourselves up for a dominant 10 year period.

It helps me sleep at night anyways. That and scotch. Lots and lots of scotch. Wwahhhhhhhhhhhh!

"I love scotch too. Scotchy, scotch, scotch. Here it goes down, down into my belly ... "

You got to Captain???

*Cough*

Hawthorn in 2008

I have no doubt that both Hawthorn and West Coast tanked and reaped the reward but they did it once, concealed it well, and were never obvious about it. Carlton threw games they were well in front in and the Kreuzer cup was shameful; Melbourne played players so far out of their position it was just ridiculous and some games we lost were downright embarrassing.

Both Carlton and Melbourne tanked over a sustained period of time and did nothing to conceal it, the only thing we didn't do was put an ad in the paper. God only knows what it did to our playing list and who knows what effect it had on any kids we drafted; we cheated and it will take a long time to get over it.

For the record I didn't complain when we did it, but on reflection I should have, we all should have, the end result was we are no better off on field and a lot worse off field.

One other thing, I think the senior players were put off side because we thought we were getting a quick fix and let them know that we were going to pursue a youth policy with the wonderful kids we'd recruited. But it backfired spectacularly when we got injuries and found the kids weren't as good and as ready as we thought they'd be.