Brendan McCartney to Bulldogs

[H_T 3,049]

Press conference at 1 pm.

McCartney new Bulldogs coach

[rpfc 28,922]

Let's get Cameron from the Hawks. Steal some more IP.

[H_T 3,049]

Let's get Cameron from the Hawks. Steal some more IP.

Poaching time. Go get 'em.

[Choko 493]

Let's get Cameron from the Hawks. Steal some more IP.

Have to wait until their season is over, but it would be great to get him.

The only thing is, he may be in the running for the Saints or Crows jobs anyway, and if he misses those jobs, why wouldn't you stay with Clarko?

[rpfc 28,922]

Have to wait until their season is over, but it would be great to get him.

The only thing is, he may be in the running for the Saints or Crows jobs anyway, and if he misses those jobs, why wouldn't you stay with Clarko?

Because you need to broaden your horizons to get the senior gig.

Look at Neeld - the guy had to do everything to get to where he is.

Buckley and Hird can sweep in because they are legends of the game (or should that be club...).

[Striker475 696]

Good call Bulldogs. Cameron was the wrong option.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Bulldogs administration will be relieved that Striker475 of Demonland fame has justified their decision.

[Striker475 696]

Bulldogs administration will be relieved that Striker475 of Demonland fame has justified their decision.

My vote is the most important.

[old55 23,838]

Have to wait until their season is over, but it would be great to get him.

The only thing is, he may be in the running for the Saints or Crows jobs anyway, and if he misses those jobs, why wouldn't you stay with Clarko?

Agreed, Cameron has only been there one year - he'll stay at Hawthorn if he doesn't get a senior job.

[Junior 46]

McCartney coached Ocean Grove to 4 consecutive premierships...what?

Checked wiki..McCartney led them to 4 flags in the 90s, then Neeld led them to 4 flags in the 00s. Eerily similar achievements for these two guys!

[DemonDave 1,096]

I think 'stealing IP' from clubs is an overrated, erroneous term.

Did we get 'loads of IP' from when Royal came from St Kilda, West from the Dogs or Connolly/O'Donnell from Freo?

Or even Viney from Adelaide via Hawthorn for that matter.

I can hardly see any tangible evidence of this. Game plans and tactics and strategies change drastically by the

year, clubs have to adapt and react to trends quickly. This was a flailing of the Bailey ethos, trying to implement

a game plan that worked circa 2007 with a bunch of players that were just not comparable.

[The Chazz 4,077]

I think 'stealing IP' from clubs is an overrated, erroneous term.

Did we get 'loads of IP' from when Royal came from St Kilda, West from the Dogs or Connolly/O'Donnell from Freo?

Or even Viney from Adelaide via Hawthorn for that matter.

I can hardly see any tangible evidence of this. Game plans and tactics and strategies change drastically by the

year, clubs have to adapt and react to trends quickly. This was a flailing of the Bailey ethos, trying to implement

a game plan that worked circa 2007 with a bunch of players that were just not comparable.

Well said DD.

[H_T 3,049]

I think 'stealing IP' from clubs is an overrated, erroneous term.

Did we get 'loads of IP' from when Royal came from St Kilda, West from the Dogs or Connolly/O'Donnell from Freo?

Or even Viney from Adelaide via Hawthorn for that matter.

I can hardly see any tangible evidence of this. Game plans and tactics and strategies change drastically by the

year, clubs have to adapt and react to trends quickly. This was a flailing of the Bailey ethos, trying to implement

a game plan that worked circa 2007 with a bunch of players that were just not comparable.

It might be subjective (although I'm not confident that it is), but the IP from the top clubs with fine tuned game plans (the best performed teams) may hold some handy information we would like to learn from.

Neeld did mention words such as "quality, strong, diverse, successful"..I don't see that from Royal, West etc.

[beelzebub 23,390]

whos coaching Ocean Grove atm..can we get them too

[Lost Highway 31]

This was a flailing of the Bailey ethos

Was it flailed because it failed?

[rpfc 28,922]

I think 'stealing IP' from clubs is an overrated, erroneous term.

Did we get 'loads of IP' from when Royal came from St Kilda, West from the Dogs or Connolly/O'Donnell from Freo?

Or even Viney from Adelaide via Hawthorn for that matter.

I can hardly see any tangible evidence of this. Game plans and tactics and strategies change drastically by the

year, clubs have to adapt and react to trends quickly. This was a flailing of the Bailey ethos, trying to implement

a game plan that worked circa 2007 with a bunch of players that were just not comparable.

Over-analyse the term all you like.

The major reason Neeld is coaching the club is because he intimately knows the worklings of the Colligwood Footy Club.

We need that IP.

[beelzebub 23,390]

It might be subjective (although I'm not confident that it is), but the IP from the top clubs with fine tuned game plans (the best performed teams) may hold some handy information we would like to learn from.

Neeld did mention words such as "quality, strong, diverse, successful"..I don't see that from Royal, West etc.

It certainly does. Immediately Neeld was able to offer the opinion of a league leader and current Premier as to how they ( Filth ) view us. It wasnt that pretty apparently and it straight away offered an insight not previously avaialble to us.

Any information ( intelligence ) is only as good as its source and relevance.

[Choko 493]

Because you need to broaden your horizons to get the senior gig.

Look at Neeld - the guy had to do everything to get to where he is.

Buckley and Hird can sweep in because they are legends of the game (or should that be club...).

Yeh, but broadening your horizons to a first timer when you are with a premiership coach whose club is well and truly still in its window seems like a backwards move to me.

[Real Demon 232]

Wow............looks like both us and the Bulldogs got their man!

I wonder who will end up being right!

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Yeh, but broadening your horizons to a first timer when you are with a premiership coach whose club is well and truly still in its window seems like a backwards move to me.

Experience son.

Work and excel with all types and soon enough your own leadership abilities will shine through.

[H_T 3,049]

Not that it means a great deal (or maybe it does), but McCartney's been coaching for 22 years, yes he - like Neeld - also coached Ocean Grove to four premierships (in the 90's). He didn't play at the highest level, but he is well respected and comes highly rated having been an assistant at Geelong for sometime during their '07-'09 Premierships.

Footnote: Neeld played ~74 AFL games with Geelong/Richmond. Coached 2000-03 Premierships at Ocean Grove.

Ocean Grove and all those involved would be a proud footy club right now.

[The Red Fox 216]

The major reason Neeld is coaching the club is because he intimately knows the worklings of the Colligwood Footy Club.

Surely you're not suggesting, everything else being equal, that Neeld wouldn't have got the gig if he were coming from a bottom 8 club?

[The Red Fox 216]

Wow............looks like both us and the Bulldogs got their man!

I wonder who will end up being right!

And Adelaide are insisting that their first choice is still available. Is it possible that three coaching sub-committees genuinely came up with three different 'best options'?

[darkhorse72 1,927]

I think the bulldogs picked the right man for their team, the returning son ie "leon", isn't always the answer but emotion. WHich lasts about half a season in reality IMO. Though Brendan does have a funny end to his nose...skin cancer or something?

[DemonDave 1,096]

The major reason Neeld is coaching the club is because he intimately knows the worklings of the Colligwood Footy Club.

We need that IP.

So do you think our coaching sub-committee went straight to the collingwood staff list, looked at who their assistants were

and simply picked one from there because they were so desparate for Collingwoods IP and didnt consider anyone else?