Bailey has said he 'takes the blame' for yesterday's debacle but won't stand down.

Should the club force him to tomorrow and put Todd in there to coach the boys for the remaining five games?

My feeling is that this marriage is officially over and Dean needs to go.

Not a Bailey fan, think he will be gone soon enough. But it won't fix everything. Will Green show heart under a new coach? Will we still give up when it gets to hard? Will players still miss 20m targets by 10 metres like nicholson in the first?

dont let the door hit your ass on the way out dean

We can still play finals this year so he'll keep his job for now.

Edited July 31, 201113 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

Pure logic suggests that DeanBailey MUST go NOW. All season the team has shown a COMPLETE inablility to resist any kind of competitive pressure from the opposition, and this kind of result was just waiting to happen. Sadly, Dean Bailey has had 19 games to address this lack of defensive ability and competitive resistance, with what can only be seen as worsening effect. In the press conference he offered nothing new. Why would we imagine he could invest the players with that ability now. This season can only be seen as destructive to the MFC, and it is due to the onfield performance. He is the organiser of that on-field performance, and must be accountable.

He simply must finish his tenure as coach. NOW. Anything less just defies reason.

This is not personal, it is merely sensible.

Not a Bailey fan, think he will be gone soon enough. But it won't fix everything. Will Green show heart under a new coach? Will we still give up when it gets to hard? Will players still miss 20m targets by 10 metres like nicholson in the first?

Not only should Bailey go tomorrow, Green should be stripped of the captaincy and sent to Casey as a statement.

I don't want Todd to be caretaker coach. Of all our current coaching panel, Todd is the one I'd most like to see retained by the club for 2012. A new coach in 2012 would be unlikely to retain the caretaker, correct me of I'm wrong but I can't remember it happening.

If Bailey does go this week it's probably better to give it to Cuddles or Royal, someone you can afford to lose. I don't think Mahoney, West or Williams are ready to even be caretakers.

I don't want Todd to be caretaker coach. Of all our current coaching panel, Todd is the one I'd most like to see retained by the club for 2012. A new coach in 2012 would be unlikely to retain the caretaker, correct me of I'm wrong but I can't remember it happening.

If Bailey does go this week it's probably better to give it to Cuddles or Royal, someone you can afford to lose. I don't think Mahoney, West or Williams are ready to even be caretakers.

Tend to agree, but anyone will do. It is not a coaches responsibility anymore. Only the players can repair the damage. Its up to them to restore pride back into the club for the remainder of the season.

Edited July 31, 201113 yr by america de cali

Bailey has said he 'takes the blame' for yesterday's debacle but won't stand down.

Should the club force him to tomorrow and put Todd in there to coach the boys for the remaining five games?

My feeling is that this marriage is officially over and Dean needs to go.

Before he goes he needs to apologise to the supporters for what has happened to our team under his coaching strategy.

We can still play finals this year so he'll keep his job for now.

Mate you are dreaming or on something really strong.

If viney is appointed, is he responsible for the assistant coaches for the remainder of the year.

Mate you are dreaming or on something really strong.

He's not dreaming about making the finals but he is about doing so under Bailey.

We can salvage something out of the season with a new coach and the reinvigoration that a change can bring.

However, I would not guarantee Viney the coaching gig beyond 2011 at this point in time. There needs to be an extensive process by which the next coach is to be selected.

There's also the situation of Viney potentially coaching his son. I'm not sure if that's healthy.

He's not dreaming about making the finals but he is about doing so under Bailey.

We can salvage something out of the season with a new coach and the reinvigoration that a change can bring.

However, I would not guarantee Viney the coaching gig beyond 2011 at this point in time. There needs to be an extensive process by which the next coach is to be selected.

There's also the situation of Viney potentially coaching his son. I'm not sure if that's healthy.

Norm Smith coached his son (Ron Barassi) and it resulted in Melbourne's greatest era.

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However, I would not guarantee Viney the coaching gig beyond 2011 at this point in time. There needs to be an extensive process by which the next coach is to be selected.

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We did this the last time, and got Bailey, for gods sake. Word was that Hardwick missed out because his presentation went poorly. FFS.

Let the board set the following criteria:

a) have been an A grader with a long playing history at AFL level

b.) have been a hard, uncompromising player

c) have premiership experience (as coach or player)

Then see who's available. Interview them if they want, but get over the presentations. (Brings back memories of our PowerPoint presentation to Warnock.)

Norm Smith coached his son (Ron Barassi) and it resulted in Melbourne's greatest era.

Not quite the same.

Smith did coach his son Peter who left to play for Carlton. Wasn't much chop anyway according to my information.

Not quite the same.

Smith did coach his son Peter who left to play for Carlton. Wasn't much chop anyway according to my information.

And Ron wasn't really Norm's son was he?

And Ron wasn't really Norm's son was he?

Ron Barassi lived in a bungalow in the backyard of Norm's house. If anything, he was more like a foster son. Norm Smith played with Ron Snr.

We can still play finals this year so he'll keep his job for now.

I reckon give Viney the rest of this year and next year then get Malthouse. If we could get Malthouse now, do it.

Malthouse is busy now ,

laughing .

Malthouse is busy now ,

laughing .

A suggestion on SEN was to appoint Dean Laidley and have Mick Malthouse join him in 12 months time.

Goodbye Deano. Nice guy and all but.....

P.S. Thanks for the memories mate

We did this the last time, and got Bailey, for gods sake. Word was that Hardwick missed out because his presentation went poorly. FFS.

Let the board set the following criteria:

a) have been an A grader with a long playing history at AFL level

b.) have been a hard, uncompromising player

c) have premiership experience (as coach or player)...

Leigh Matthews ticks all the boxes

There is something seriously wrong at the MFC, action must be taken. The whole club from the top down must be held to account and put on notice! I was a huge fan of keeping Bailey, but it's really hard for even me, to see how he can come back from this....Bye Bailey, Thanks for the high draft picks...

I'm glad I was at Geelong yesterday. To see a half of the Casey debacle and then see the main event debacle in person was an experience that will remain etched in my memory for the rest of my life (which will be shorter than my life so far!). Take no credit away from Geelong - they were awesome for the whole game and did not let up when other teams would have relaxed.

That said, Viney must replace Bailey immediately, but only for the rest of the year - we must go outside MFC for 2012 and beyond. Viney can return to his current role in 2012, and MFC will have a new coach. It doesn't have to be an experienced coach, in fact there are good arguments for a current well-credentialled assistant - given Geelong's recent few years, Brenton Sanderson would appear to have a lot to offer, for example. He would certainly know what he was taking on after yesterday!

The bottom line is yesterday was unforgiveable, should never have happened, and MFC should never allow it to happen again - this should be ingrained in the future culture of all aspects of MFC. The Bailey era should be consigned to history and only ever looked at again as an example of what NOT to do!

Buy, buy Bailey! Hello Todd! I hope Todd can get this club up, there are no words to describe how i am feeling today.