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Choko Redleg

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This thread has a life of it's own, racist leanings, Jurrah as captain?

Wowee.....was there a draw in the GF? This place has gone crazy.

I reckon it's got nothing to do with him being indigenous. It's because he's a male. We need a female captain! :huh:

Best quote in this whole thread is "Don't call me ignorant. No clue, perhaps". They should bottle that.

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According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups.

Whether you want to term it racist or condescending, whether the claim is true or otherwise, I think it's improper to single out someone as being unworthy for the position based on their race.

No, not just improper - highly offensive.

WJ Thanks for highlighting this definition. I believe that the Demonlanders are the best group in the world,and or the MFC is the best sporting club in the world- does this make me a racist- If so I can then tolerate being a racist.

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WJ Thanks for highlighting this definition. I believe that the Demonlanders are the best group in the world,and or the MFC is the best sporting club in the world- does this make me a racist- If so I can then tolerate being a racist.

We may be a minority, but we aren't a race.

I know you're being flippant but, really, it wasn't great what was said in this thread.

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We may be a minority, but we aren't a race.

I know you're being flippant but, really, it wasn't great what was said in this thread.

Actually JCB got it spot on.

I realise the way I said it was not great, but never did I mean it to be conveyed in such a derogatory manner. The internet can be like that sometimes (ala sarcasm!).

I have apologised.

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Deezman, I agree. You have the balls to say what people are thinking except wouldn't with fear of being called a racist, condecending or offensive.

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, Brad Green will be a better captain SIMPLE.

Deezman original post was about race if he had just said Davey was not a good leader then that would be different but he had to bring his race into the post which was just silly. Oh and it doesn't take balls to say what people are thinking it takes the ability to read peoples minds. It takes balls to stand up against injustice or to fight against adversity. Deezman's post doesnt really meet that standard.

Hannabal actually got it spot on - everyone is racist, it's just a matter of the level.

I acknowledge racism is defined as involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. But doesn't everyone feel their own race is more superior???

My comment was not a massively racist remark like some are suggesting - merely pointing out what I have seen with the indigenous players during and after games etc (of course, we don't get to see what happens behind closed doors!).

So saying that I don't want an indigenous player as captain because they stick too much to their own kind/race is being highly racist, is it? Some people are so precious...

I am not racist and never will be and I proud to be so. On a side note - I crack up when I hear people say "I am not racist I just hate everyone" I laugh because what they really are saying is that they are just aggressive, try hards who have no friends. (It's actually quite sad also).

Actually JCB got it spot on.

I realise the way I said it was not great, but never did I mean it to be conveyed in such a derogatory manner. The internet can be like that sometimes (ala sarcasm!).

I have apologised.

Well done Deezman now go away and have good long hard look at yourself. lol

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Well done Deezman now go away and have good long hard look at yourself. lol

Thankyou for your input, Felix the Cat. But... how many times do I have to apologise and reiterate that what I had said came out as I had NOT intended!?!?

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Agreed and I sure hope this is what eventuates.

For mine, I'm not a fan of having an Aboriginal captain. It's not being racist by any means... but I do feel that Aborigines seem to stick by one another a lot more - i.e. after games when they tend to all gather 'round one another etc.

That's just my take. Aaron is great in recognising and promoting the indigenous community and I'd like to see him stick to that leadership role (and be added to the leadership group!).

I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a Brad Green leading the charges.

Deezman havent you caued a stir!

I agree with you but I will say. Aboriginal players have been putting up with racism on (& off) the ground since the dawn of time. This forced them to stay close to each other, to watch each others back.

This fact along with the fact that more & more aboriginal players are coming from rural communities (Jurrah great example), and have a long road ahead of them to fit into the surburban lifesstyle let alone making it in the AFL. This alo causes them to stick together. Davey helped Wona, Wona helped Jusrrah and so on.

I would prefer Davey to concentrate on his game, and put omeone like a green or bruce, maybe beamer in charge - this has nothing to do with race.

If we were to give it to a young player my hope is Colin Sylvia. He lifted this year, and with the captaincy would continue to lift. He is hard as nails, and matured greatly since his early mitakes.

If davey does get the gig i hope he learns to lead the others as he does the aboriginals in the team as he is such a good leader.

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Deezman havent you caued a stir!

I agree with you but I will say. Aboriginal players have been putting up with racism on (& off) the ground since the dawn of time. This forced them to stay close to each other, to watch each others back.

This fact along with the fact that more & more aboriginal players are coming from rural communities (Jurrah great example), and have a long road ahead of them to fit into the surburban lifesstyle let alone making it in the AFL. This alo causes them to stick together. Davey helped Wona, Wona helped Jusrrah and so on.

I would prefer Davey to concentrate on his game, and put omeone like a green or bruce, maybe beamer in charge - this has nothing to do with race.

If we were to give it to a young player my hope is Colin Sylvia. He lifted this year, and with the captaincy would continue to lift. He is hard as nails, and matured greatly since his early mitakes.

If davey does get the gig i hope he learns to lead the others as he does the aboriginals in the team as he is such a good leader.

That's exactly what I meant - well said Red&BlueBlood. Unfortunately, my wording wasn't nearly as coherent and as well-structured as yours.

Cheers.

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Deezman havent you caued a stir!

I agree with you but I will say. Aboriginal players have been putting up with racism on (& off) the ground since the dawn of time. This forced them to stay close to each other, to watch each others back.

This fact along with the fact that more & more aboriginal players are coming from rural communities (Jurrah great example), and have a long road ahead of them to fit into the surburban lifesstyle let alone making it in the AFL. This alo causes them to stick together. Davey helped Wona, Wona helped Jusrrah and so on.

I would prefer Davey to concentrate on his game, and put omeone like a green or bruce, maybe beamer in charge - this has nothing to do with race.

If we were to give it to a young player my hope is Colin Sylvia. He lifted this year, and with the captaincy would continue to lift. He is hard as nails, and matured greatly since his early mitakes.

If davey does get the gig i hope he learns to lead the others as he does the aboriginals in the team as he is such a good leader.

Colin Sylvia?!

I have a non-racial reason why this cracker would be not the right person for the captaincy.

He has just got his mind right, and his football decent after his...issues, and you want to give him the captaincy?!

He should have less claim to such high an honour, and responsibility, as 10 other players.

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sorry, you two lovers will have to find someone else for your menage a'trois

Stop baiting us, DC.

E25 can't help himself, and I posted here a long time before you came along...

I don't think I require your constant judgment.

In fact, let's analyse your posting patterns of late:

Seem to be centred around a few 'personalities' on this board, extremely flippant, and becoming indignant whenever there is a hint of accusation coming your way.

Hmmm?

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Stop baiting us, DC.

E25 can't help himself, and I posted here a long time before you came along...

I don't think I require your constant judgment.

In fact, let's analyse your posting patterns of late:

Seem to be centred around a few 'personalities' on this board, extremely flippant, and becoming indignant whenever there is a hint of accusation coming your way.

Hmmm?

but you told me lately we were both "s*** stirrers"

rather passe, I'd rather be a "provocative m****r f****r", much more new-age

E25 makes himself a rather large target, doesn't need your assistance

Tis the silly season, but won't last for ever

Was that flippant enough, doc?

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