The Disciplined Dees

[DeezMan 4]

On the back of recently seeing Trav Tuck get his third strike for drugs, and reading about Matthew Stokes getting caught drug trafficking PLUS the Fev stories and the St Kilda stories that unfolded rah rah rah... I cannot help but be oh so proud of the mighty Dees.

The only times Melbourne are in the papers is:

a) for their post-game review; and/or

b ) to pump up the side that could be "The Next Big Thing"; and/or

c) milestone games.

This also goes for many other clubs too, but I love the way the Dees are seemingly so disciplined for such a young YOUNG list (second youngest in the AFL behind Richmond and we saw what Connors, Cuz and co did earlier in the year).

The Dees clearly have fantastic leadership, role models and mentors at the club. Good to see young Col Sylvia has found his way.

GO DEMONS!! And well done.

Edited August 31, 2010 by DeezMan

[Tony Tea 2,806]

Touch wood.

[Keyser Söze 0]

Great.

Brilliant way you just put the kybosh on us.

Now it's only a matter of time...

[DeezMan 4]

Touch wood.

Haha. Well whatever happens happens.

But until now... our young list has done an extraordinary job of controlling themselves - we all know how out of control the average 22-23 year old can be these days.

Credit to the senior guys, the leadership group and also the coaching staff... but also the team in its entirety for following procedures.

Edited August 31, 2010 by DeezMan

[Ryan Dee 140]

Great post.

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 389]

When you read about players who formerly had some issues with off-field misdemeanors and attitude but who have now taken it open themselves to perform acts of community service i.e. Slyvia taking time to visit children in hospital then you can be pretty confident things have improved. Not too mention that young guys like Scully, who I understand never touches alcohol (I assume for professional/ health reasons) then you indeed will be fostering an environment that encourages self-discipline. I have no doubt that Jim Stynes would also be a factor here, I can't imagined how ashamed I would feel for doing something stupid if I had to face up to the media or have Jimmy be forced to defend my actions.

Edited August 31, 2010 by Ascobar

[biggestred 5,028]

the whole team could theoretically be on 2 strikes and we wouldnt know....

[e25 5]

the whole team could theoretically be on 2 strikes and we wouldnt know....

Exactly.

We only know what our players have been CAUGHT doing and then made public.

This is an absurd thread.

[DeezMan 4]

Exactly.

We only know what our players have been CAUGHT doing and then made public.

This is an absurd thread.

Understandable... coming from a guy who doesn't have the word "positivity" in his vocabulary.

Strikes refers to drug abuse if I am not mistaken. Of course we may not know that PERHAPS the Melbourne Demons are all on 2 strikes, but that goes for every other AFL team so we're all on an even keel! Yes?

However, all other indiscretions are made public one way or another and Melbourne have had zilch coverage. No rape assaults, no drink driving's, no smashing into other cars, no beating each other up, no getting 16 year old's pregnant by accident and no late-night shenanigans such as peeing on walls and glassing patrons. And don't tell me "But a Melbourne player may have done something wrong but it was never made public so nerr!!". That's bull - indiscretions by a football player are always made public. There's good reason for that.

So instead, the Dees go out to the Casey Community and run programs that are so successful they are being looked at to be run at a national level (i.e. Read Like A Demon).

Put that one in your pipe and smoke it, E25. If this is an "absurd thread" according to you, then you have no reason to post in it.

The MFC are doing GREAT things.

[Watt and Howe? 16]

Exactly.

We only know what our players have been CAUGHT doing and then made public.

This is an absurd thread.

You sir are a muppet. The Dees off field have been fantastic. The matter of the fact is in the public eye the Demons have been squeeky clean for many years (the last issue i recall was with Col). Your negativity is a drag... why being so pessimistic escapes me. Carn the Dees!

[e25 5]

I just think there is no need for such misguided positivity about something none of us really know anything about.

We don't have a crystal ball.

Hawthorn looked pretty clean Friday morning...

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

I just think there is no need for such misguided positivity about something none of us really know anything about.

We don't have a crystal ball.

Hawthorn looked pretty clean Friday morning...

Sure they did with Mr Injunction running around for them.

[Geddy Lee 582]

I just think there is no need for such misguided positivity about something none of us really know anything about.

We don't have a crystal ball.

Hawthorn looked pretty clean Friday morning...

As if we needed more proof that E25 doesn't think before he posts.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

This is an absurd thread.

Only thing absurd about it is this post.

I just think there is no need for such misguided positivity about something none of us really know anything about.

We don't have a crystal ball.

He's a supporter who is applauding his club for having a clean slate in the public eye. Giving off the image of a united front, with a team of leaders. There's nothing wrong with that...

[DeezMan 4]

[censored].

And many more names...

News today that Brisbane Lion Mitch Clark urinated on a cigarette machine at a Brisbane pub. *sigh*

[Daytona Demon 0]

Stokes wasn't 'trafficking' drugs mate.

He bought a very small amount of cocaine for a friend coming down from the NT. The charge was a joke, and even the courts understood that.

He's a good guy...

Nonetheless, its been good seeing our guys are keeping out of trouble in recent times B)

I also don't see the Travis Tuck thing as a 'discipline' issue. The guy had been receiving treatment for depression prior to this incident. You have to understand the cuthroat, high-stakes nature of being an AFL player and the effect this has on a lot of players.

Travis has been suffering from depression, and then he's virtually told his career as a footballer is over at the age of what, 21,22??

A little more sympathy wouldnt go astray..

Edited September 4, 2010 by Daytona Demon

[Chook 15,012]

A little more sympathy wouldnt go astray..

But he's a "druggie!" My mummy told me they're all evil crack-whores who eat children and sell their babies for their next fix.

Seriously, some people are a little bit too insular, which causes them to unquestioningly believe what society wants them to. Many of these same people kill themselves with cigarettes and drown their sorrows in booze, unaware of the sheer hypocrisy of their actions.

End rant.

[Daytona Demon 0]

But he's a "druggie!" My mummy told me they're all evil crack-whores who eat children and sell their babies for their next fix.

Seriously, some people are a little bit too insular, which causes them to unquestioningly believe what society wants them to. Many of these same people kill themselves with cigarettes and drown their sorrows in booze, unaware of the sheer hypocrisy of their actions.

End rant.

haha!! yeah, i was thinking along similar lines. We really like to put people up on pedestals then give them a good whipping across the back as they fall off of them..

In the real world, terms like 'procedures' don't count for much either...

Edited September 4, 2010 by Daytona Demon

[Guest milpod]

On the back of recently seeing Trav Tuck get his third strike for drugs, and reading about Matthew Stokes getting caught drug trafficking PLUS the Fev stories and the St Kilda stories that unfolded rah rah rah... I cannot help but be oh so proud of the mighty Dees.The only times Melbourne are in the papers is:a) for their post-game review; and/orb ) to pump up the side that could be "The Next Big Thing"; and/orc) milestone games.This also goes for many other clubs too, but I love the way the Dees are seemingly so disciplined for such a young YOUNG list (second youngest in the AFL behind Richmond and we saw what Connors, Cuz and co did earlier in the year).The Dees clearly have fantastic leadership, role models and mentors at the club. Good to see young Col Sylvia has found his way.GO DEMONS!! And well done.

You haven't had a read of Ox's new book?

[Little Goffy 14,468]

I'm really, really deeply uncomfortable with what is basically bragging about something that we as fans have so little knowledge of and less control over, and which is so immensely fragile.

I'm proud of the club's visible culture, I've been proud of just about everything I've heard from the club for a couple of years now.

But it's not a pride that goes to blowing our own trumpet. Your reputation isn't settled 'til your dead. Sometimes not even then.

[Face Your Demons 175]

And for eating Turtles

[deanox 9,902]

Stokes wasn't 'trafficking' drugs mate.

He bought a very small amount of cocaine for a friend coming down from the NT. The charge was a joke, and even the courts understood that.

i would suggest that it is entirely possible the trafficking drugs charge came about because when caught with drugs the immediate answer was 'they aren't mine' and when he was asked 'whose are they then?' and he replied 'I bought them for a mate'.

given it was such a small amount he may not have even been charged had he said that they were his.

im also not sure i believe the story about 'helping out a mate' and getting caught. it doesn't gel right with me. hypothetically if you aren't interested in using them, and you aren't dealing them, why would you purchase them and supply them to your friends?

Edited September 5, 2010 by deanox

[Brayshaws' Helmet 143]

meh this isn't true, i have been out on the tear before, and seen jared rivers trying to fight someone, and brent moloney trying to fight someone on different occasions. Also seen Nathan Jones with Simon Buckley standing with his pants down outside metropol on fitzroy street. I'm sure this happens at all clubs.

im just saying you can't be so niave to be like "awww aren't they model citizens." Because the truth is, they're 20 something yr old guys, who are like everyone else. It always surprises me to see on the news over and over about shock horror, some of the players take drugs! Its like no sh*t

[Daytona Demon 0]

i would suggest that it is entirely possible the trafficking drugs charge came about because when caught with drugs the immediate answer was 'they aren't mine' and when he was asked 'whose are they then?' and he replied 'I bought them for a mate'.

given it was such a small amount he may not have even been charged had he said that they were his.

im also not sure i believe the story about 'helping out a mate' and getting caught. it doesn't gel right with me. hypothetically if you aren't interested in using them, and you aren't dealing them, why would you purchase them and supply them to your friends?

Well, that's exactly why he was charged with 'trafficking'. He panicked. He would've been better off keeping his mouth shut until he got legal advice...Who knows?? I'm sure AFL players would meet all kinds of people with all the socializing they do.

Its a moot point really. Its done and dusted, and tbh there's far more pressing issues elsewhere to be concerned about..He's already had to experience the ignominy of being publicly shamed. So let's move on...

Edited September 5, 2010 by Daytona Demon

[deeflog 679]

Stokes wasn't 'trafficking' drugs mate.

He bought a very small amount of cocaine for a friend coming down from the NT. The charge was a joke, and even the courts understood that.

He's a good guy...

buying drugs for a friend off a known local drug dealer, regardless of the amount is trafficing, and if he(stokes) was not a local AFL player would have been charged for trafficing. The charge was not a joke, the end result was a joke!