Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Our strategy should be fairly obvious - in 2010/2011 expect we will some what "exit the draft" and concentrate 80-90% of our energies on the trade table.

I don't think you'll see any change in strategy.

We'll stick to developing our own and bringing in suitable talent if it's on offer.

Taking the different tact, I think, leads a club to what we experienced in 2006/2007 onwards.

Posted

No doubt you would. The only reason we had Robbo up forward all the time is that he did not chase and was not mobile.

Re backs: We have Warnock, Frawley, Garland, McDonald. We have Rivers, Martin and McNamara in the wings. How much depth in defenders can you carry in a list of 40. You need to get over your fixation with height and really look at what we do have. And I worry when posters recommend we recruit for depth. Shudder.

Up forward, we will have Watts and Jurrah returning from injury. We have marking forwards in Sylvia and Bate with possibility of Green and Morton pushing forward. We have recruited Spencer, Fitzpatrick and GAWN to develop and if they do you have a contested mark big called Jamar who can go down there.

As always in the draft with our first 2 to 3 picks I suggest we take the best available. Our midfield is developing but is not established. We need to focus on quality We will probably have Junior retire, Bell to be delisted and Maric (if out of contract) is looking problematic for the future. So there is 3 potential players in the midfield.

Best post I've read on here..........ever!

Posted

Way too early to call.

Its all spectulation.

8 weeks ago, Bartram had his locker cleaned out and his bags were packed. He was gone,

Miller was our only forward. (read the past threads)

Sheeze.

Bartram has been going ok, Miller is at Casey.

Things can turn around very quickly. making calls on the list at this stage,is way too early in the season.

But heard a 'whisper' MFC has been down at Sandy Dragons sniffing out a young tall. I was told his name, but this info was passed on 2nd hand, but they heard it from the player concerned. Unless I had heard it 1st hand,I'm not about to 'speculate/confirm' any names. I would expect MFC to sound out all potental talent way before the season ends, then decide who they will target to draft,along with who will be moved on.

I hope they keep an eye on Scott Simpson who signed up with Casey this year,he was delisted by Geelong.

A 20yr tall powerful FF on our doorstep,but havent seen him listed to play at Casey in the 2 games thus far.

Then he has to show something down there to be considered.

Posted

But heard a 'whisper' MFC has been down at Sandy Dragons sniffing out a young tall. I was told his name, but this info was passed on 2nd hand, but they heard it from the player concerned. Unless I had heard it 1st hand,I'm not about to 'speculate/confirm' any names.

Wow. Devastating stuff! :blink:

In essence you have told us nothing and wondered why you bothered at all?

Dodgy source and so what information.

Cliff from Clematis on the Coodabeens had more reliable sources and info.

Guest hangon007
Posted (edited)

I don't think you'll see any change in strategy.

We'll stick to developing our own and bringing in suitable talent if it's on offer.

Taking the different tact, I think, leads a club to what we experienced in 2006/2007 onwards.

I never used the word "change" - you did.

I never suggest the term "different tact" - you did.

I will stick by my comments ... "Our strategy should be fairly obvious - in 2010/2011 expect we will some what "exit the draft" and concentrate 80-90% of our energies on the trade table."

Edited by hangon007

Posted

Wow. Devastating stuff! :blink:

In essence you have told us nothing and wondered why you bothered at all?

Dodgy source and so what information.

Cliff from Clematis on the Coodabeens had more reliable sources and info.

Good response!

My point that went over YOUR head was ....They are looking at who to draft,whos available for 2011. Then decide possibles,and who to cut.

But go back to reading your comic books.

Posted

Way too early to call.

Its all spectulation.

8 weeks ago, Bartram had his locker cleaned out and his bags were packed. He was gone,

Miller was our only forward. (read the past threads)

Sheeze.

Bartram has been going ok, Miller is at Casey.

Things can turn around very quickly. making calls on the list at this stage,is way too early in the season.

But heard a 'whisper' MFC has been down at Sandy Dragons sniffing out a young tall. I was told his name, but this info was passed on 2nd hand, but they heard it from the player concerned. Unless I had heard it 1st hand,I'm not about to 'speculate/confirm' any names. I would expect MFC to sound out all potental talent way before the season ends, then decide who they will target to draft,along with who will be moved on.

I hope they keep an eye on Scott Simpson who signed up with Casey this year,he was delisted by Geelong.

A 20yr tall powerful FF on our doorstep,but havent seen him listed to play at Casey in the 2 games thus far.

Then he has to show something down there to be considered.

He is(Simpson) injured. They thought alot of him in early training--maybe kept in cotton wool.

Posted

He is(Simpson) injured. They thought alot of him in early training--maybe kept in cotton wool.

They didnt have him listed as injured,I havent been able to get down there lately,so thanks for the update.

A far better response, as opposed from the tripe above.

Hope they do keep him under wraps,but I was surprised he

wasnt picked up as a rookie this year.


Posted (edited)

Well tell me what type of players you would like to add to our list..knowing we have to pick at least 3 or four..Whom should our recruiters be lookinbg at..Surely this is part of our strategy.. We have enough midfielders/ small forwards/ small defenders...so tell me please...whom??

We take the best available talent, be he tall or small, forward or back.

Edited by Roost It
Posted

Firstly, the game plan has not changed. The players are now more adept at doing what Bailey has been seeking them to do for the past 2 and a bit years. We have recruited skilled players that can use the ball competently by hand and foot even under pressure.

Secondly, I am not sure why we need another tall backman when we have Warnock, Garland, Frawley. I just cant see a settled back six to handle match ups week in week out with another tall.

Thirdly, our recruting of Watts, Jurrah, GAWN and Spenser reflects the Clubs understanding of the need to cover those positions but they recognise they take time to come on.

Finally, we have been lucky not to have been exposed by oppositions when playing Newton and Dunn in the ruck. Dunn has yet to convince me that he is a long term AFL player and he certainly is not a ruckman. And Darcy got one wrong if thinks Miller will take the centre bounces. He like Newton offers little up forward so its not worth sacrificing a running player for a questionable pinch hitter in the ruck.

The biggest improver in this side this year without a doubt is Mark Jamar who has profoundly impactly the last 3 games single handedly. I trust him good health and fitness. By god we need him.

I think our recruiting of Jurrah was nothing more than common sense

Posted

I think our recruiting of Jurrah was nothing more than common sense

It was hardly common sense as a number of other Clubs had looked at Jurrah and taken all the related risks as being too high.

There was no surety that Jurrah would either cut in AFL or in the big city.

Hardly common sense but a careful assessment of the cost benefit and the recruiting team should be congratulated for it.

Posted

It was hardly common sense as a number of other Clubs had looked at Jurrah and taken all the related risks as being too high.

There was no surety that Jurrah would either cut in AFL or in the big city.

Hardly common sense but a careful assessment of the cost benefit and the recruiting team should be congratulated for it.

Should they?

After one season? Thing's can change very quickly and Jurrah has shown some glimpses of

excitement last year.

I wouldn't be congratulating anyone just yet. Let's wait a few years.

Posted

Should they?

After one season? Thing's can change very quickly and Jurrah has shown some glimpses of

excitement last year.

I wouldn't be congratulating anyone just yet. Let's wait a few years.

Way to sit on the fence.

Posted

Should they?

After one season? Thing's can change very quickly and Jurrah has shown some glimpses of

excitement last year.

I wouldn't be congratulating anyone just yet. Let's wait a few years.

How many PSD picks go on to being good footballers let alone actually play an AFL game?

The selection took some guts. I think he is a wonderful recruit with strong prospects. I can think of many PSD picks that are just ordinary and not AFL standard

Posted

Way to sit on the fence.

I'm struggling to understand what you meant by that comment. Am I a fence sitter on whether or not Liam Jurrah

was a good pick up? I am simply saying he has played one season and we have no idea of what could happen in the future

so rather than congratulate our recruiters, why don't we wait a couple of seasons, see him settled and playing consistent footy before

we congratulate anybody. Collingwood once had him and he left due to unfortunate circumstances. Just like the Jack Watts issue, just

like the Melbourne making finals issue, we need to be a little more patient.

How many PSD picks go on to being good footballers let alone actually play an AFL game?

Jason Porplyzia

Eddie Betts

Shane O'Bree

Tyson Edwards

Peter Bell

Simon Goodwin

Shane Woewodin

Ben Graham

There are many more...

The selection took some guts. I think he is a wonderful recruit with strong prospects. I can think of many PSD picks that are just ordinary and not AFL standard

And in contrast the list above proves there are also quite a few who have turned out to be jems.

I agree with you Rhino that it was a courageous selection. For me however, it's far too early to judge

whether he was/is a good pick up. The potential is there and I wish all the best to him and I really hope

we continue to support him in an AFL football club environment.

Let's hope he can get a few games this season and show us some more of that magic.

Posted

Let's hope he can get a few games this season and show us some more of that magic.

The names you list are the exception out of alot of crud that goes nowhere in the AFL.

If a PSD pick who has not played AFL before does get to AFL level as a productive footballer then that an achievement particularly given the background to Jurrah. Culturally and sporting wise he has developed outside the "system" of AFL. In addition given the high number of players that have gone through the PSD and done nothing, the list of names you give represent a low number and exceptions to the rule.

The PSD is not the goldmine people think. As a result I think the recruiting team should be congratulated for that notwithstanding what the future holds. In 9 games he has been exciting and is a definite talent that can make it. I look forward to him to doing it.

Posted

The names you list are the exception out of alot of crud that goes nowhere in the AFL.

If a PSD pick who has not played AFL before does get to AFL level as a productive footballer then that an achievement particularly given the background to Jurrah. Culturally and sporting wise he has developed outside the "system" of AFL. In addition given the high number of players that have gone through the PSD and done nothing, the list of names you give represent a low number and exceptions to the rule.

The PSD is not the goldmine people think. As a result I think the recruiting team should be congratulated for that notwithstanding what the future holds. In 9 games he has been exciting and is a definite talent that can make it. I look forward to him to doing it.

I will settle and agree.

They are the cream of the crop of the PSD in recent years and I am very aware of the transition

Liam has had to make and how different all aspects have been for him in moving to Melbourne.

I guess I am just worried about all this expectation Melbourne supporters exert on our players. Players

that could potentially crumble from such pressures. (Watts)

With Liam I think I am extra sensitive because he really has come from such a remote part of Australia,

surrounded by a culture that is so different to that of big city life. (Western Civilization).

I still believe that if we really nurture this kid through the system and we continue to establish a strong relationship

with the NT, then we can congratulate not only the recruiting dept, but the whole club.

Here's hoping.

Posted

Should they?

After one season? Thing's can change very quickly and Jurrah has shown some glimpses of

excitement last year.

I wouldn't be congratulating anyone just yet. Let's wait a few years.

What a silly comment!! If you really believe this, you would have to argue exactly the same point about each and every recruit ever drafted by any AFL club.

LJ has already provided great enjoyment for Melbourne supporters and generated a heap of positive publicity for our club. After only one season and a handful of games, he is one of the 'faces' of our membership campaign, and is regarded with the likes of early draft picks Watts, Grimes, Scully and Trengove as critical to our on-field future. Further, he is widely seen as the sort of player who will draw people through the gates, and dare I say it, boost our membership stocks.

His recruitment was a masterstroke, and the way the footy club has supported his transition from Yuendumu to Melbourne, and from outback footy to the AFL is magnificent.

Congratulations to everyone involved at the Melbourne Football Club.!


Posted

With Liam I think I am extra sensitive because he really has come from such a remote part of Australia,

surrounded by a culture that is so different to that of big city life. (Western Civilization).

I still believe that if we really nurture this kid through the system and we continue to establish a strong relationship

with the NT, then we can congratulate not only the recruiting dept, but the whole club.

Here's hoping.

I understand where you are coming from but it should be remembered than despite the challenges, Jurrah is an elder in his community and from all reports comes across as a natural and responsible individual who loves playing footy. Its pity the AFL does not have more of his type of character. All power to him. I look forward to his return.

Posted

What a silly comment!! If you really believe this, you would have to argue exactly the same point about each and every recruit ever drafted by any AFL club.

LJ has already provided great enjoyment for Melbourne supporters and generated a heap of positive publicity for our club. After only one season and a handful of games, he is one of the 'faces' of our membership campaign, and is regarded with the likes of early draft picks Watts, Grimes, Scully and Trengove as critical to our on-field future. Further, he is widely seen as the sort of player who will draw people through the gates, and dare I say it, boost our membership stocks.

His recruitment was a masterstroke, and the way the footy club has supported his transition from Yuendumu to Melbourne, and from outback footy to the AFL is magnificent.

Congratulations to everyone involved at the Melbourne Football Club.!

I'm not sure you have read every post deeoldfart.

Read my last post.

It has been one year. I like your enthusiasm but can we just wait a little longer before stating

the recruitment of him was a masterstroke?

Posted

I'm not sure you have read every post deeoldfart.

Read my last post.

It has been one year. I like your enthusiasm but can we just wait a little longer before stating

the recruitment of him was a masterstroke?

You are correct stmj, as is my usual habit, I responded to your initial post as I was reading my way through the thread (and I type at a pretty slow rate, especially with my <2yo grand daughter wanting to 'help' me).

Anyway, I am pleased that you have 'settled and agreed'.

As for my use of the term 'masterstroke', I would argue that LJ's selection has already proved to be a major coup for the MFC, both on and off the field. I hope you are happier with those words.

PS. my grandaughter is very bright ... she has a toy sea-horse named 'Jurrah' and already knows the words of the Grand Old Flag with very little prompting. I suspect that she will be singing our song a great deal over the next decade, and barring injury, I'm very confident that LJ will be a very important part of the reason why.

Posted

You are correct stmj, as is my usual habit, I responded to your initial post as I was reading my way through the thread (and I type at a pretty slow rate, especially with my <2yo grand daughter wanting to 'help' me).

Anyway, I am pleased that you have 'settled and agreed'.

As for my use of the term 'masterstroke', I would argue that LJ's selection has already proved to be a major coup for the MFC, both on and off the field. I hope you are happier with those words.

PS. my grandaughter is very bright ... she has a toy sea-horse named 'Jurrah' and already knows the words of the Grand Old Flag with very little prompting. I suspect that she will be singing our song a great deal over the next decade, and barring injury, I'm very confident that LJ will be a very important part of the reason why.

Did not notice LJ at training Friday, hope he hasn't got onto Wona's magpie geese as well.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...