Team changes discussion

[titan_uranus 25,174]

In: McNamara, Martin, Sylvia, (if fit), Jetta (if fit) (if neither fit then Maric)

Out: Dunn, Miller, Warnock, Bate

McNamara to play forward alongside Green, who plays so well as a lead-up forward.

I'm harsh on Warnock but I think Martin can do a lot better at full back than Warnock did today.

There aren't a lot of options outside of who we played today so we desperately need improvement from the majority of our current 22 who just weren't good enough today.

Edit: Forgot Bate. Bad, bad game.

[Yze_Magic 3]

In - SYLVIA, Martin, McNamara, Maric, Jetta, Watts, Garland

Out - Dunn, Bruce, MacDonald, McDonald, Bate, Bennell, Spencer

[titan_uranus 25,174]

In - SYLVIA, Martin, McNamara, Maric, Jetta, Watts, Garland

Out - Dunn, Bruce, MacDonald, McDonald, Bate, Bennell, Spencer

Yes, dropping our captain and our best player from today should help.

Garland and Watts won't be fit, but once they are they will come straight in.

Bennell showed a bit when he was able to run out of defence but too often he ran into trouble and turned it over. He also isn't strong enough overhead.

[Doggo 32]

OUT:

Dunn - Bad. Just bad.

Warnock - Shocking today, out-marked and out-positioned too easily, was really lucky not to have had 7 or 8 kicked on him.

Miller - Bad. Really really bad.

Spencer - I understand he's young and raw and needs exposure, but he just isn't ready for AFL footy yet.

IN:

Sylvia - if fit

McNamara - IMO the most underrated of our youngsters on the list, can play tall-small, back or forward.

Martin - 2nd ruck replacement, pinch-hit up forward

Hughes - something needs to change in the forward line, Danny might just add a spark. Highly likely to do more than Miller or Dunn did today.

[Seek & Deestroy 0]

First dropped should be Bate he is an absolute disgrace of a footballer, soft, slow and selfish his display today showed that. He needs a good few weeks to regain fitness and think about what's required of an AFL forward.

Benell is worth persisting with, play him off the wing so he can use his dash, he plays to loose to be a solid defender.

[deanox 10,045]

Out: Miller.

In: Sylvia.

McNamara is close for me, but he would have to push Warnock out and i don't think he will. Warnock shouldn't have been playing on Roughhead, it should have been Frawley (or Martin if he was in), Warnock was undersized, but not fast enough to take any of the other hawthorn forwards.

Miller was woeful, and I'd rather see Sylvia play at CHF than Miller. He didn't even play like a forward, more like a floating half forward.

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

Bate was atrocious today but will not be dropped, Jnr seems to have dropped a yard (or two) and I think will struggle all year on what he showed today.

Miller can go, I think Bennell makes too many mistakes at this level and should go back to Casey for a bit.

[The Jack of Grimes 0]

Were we at the same game? Spencer tried hard all day, and I thought in the second half he really put his body on the line and worked hard off the ball. Deserves another chance. As for our captain, I thought he was fantastic today. Worked hard, led by example.

In: Sylvia, Martin

Out: Miller, Warnock

[PeterJames 46]

Spencer had 1 handball to 3qtr time. He is horrible and surely no one can say he deserves another AFL game.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

Changes for next week are pretty simple:

STOP KICKING IT TO THE OTHER TEAM!!!!

[Rollo2 64]

Out- Spencer, Bate, Strauss,

In- Martin, Sylvia, Bartram (if fit),

Stef Martin is much much better than Spencer, I don't care how he played against West Coast.

Bate NEEDS to be dropped after that game, and Sylvia picks himself as a replacement.

Strauss will be OK eventually, but Bartram is already OK, and much more intense, which we need.

Apart from that, you're struggling to make too many more changes for lack of options. Eg., I'd love to drop Miller too, but for who? Newton?

[big tuna 0]

Bate had a shocker today... but to say he is a disgrace is way over the top when he has produced good footy in the past. Obviously his injury during preseason has cost him fitness and confidence. He will improve in the coming weeks because he could not possibly play any worse than today.

Spencer is a liability on the ground especially in the forward line... too slow & can't kick or mark. He should do his developing at Casey & Martin should be 2nd ruck rotating through the forward line. At least Martin has good speed for his size and can take a mark & apply forward pressure.

Afraid Dunn is not suited to any position & offers the team nothing.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,285]

Loving the panic merchants.

There is no way Bate or Warnock will be dropped and nor should they.

In Sylvia, Martin

Out Dunn, Miller

Strauss has a very nervous first game but I will be very disappointed if he is dropped.

[P-man 13,366]

I agree that people are being a bit tough on Bate. Granted he didn't have the best match but he had an interrupted preseason and took a pretty heavy knock early on. On his day he is one of our better forward targets with strength and balance in the contest, and a STRAIGHT kick. Something that can't be said for a few others.

I think Miller has got to go though, with hopefully Syliva fit enough to replace him. On his performance today I'd say Warnock needs to go also, but I know he's alot better than what he showed today. As is 95% of them.

[jayceebee31 768]

Out coaching panel- bring in Barrassi,Alves,to put a stamp on this pathetic team,by coaching the coaches.

[gOLLy 401]

Out : Frosty, Franky, Brucey, Dunny

In : Watts, Maric, Sylvia, Martin

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,241]

On his performance today I'd say Warnock needs to go also, but I know he's alot better to what he showed today.

The alarm bells were sounding after each practice match report here.

Not good enough from a dual top 5 B & F winner.

[dee-luded 2,959]

First dropped should be Bate he is an absolute disgrace of a footballer, soft, slow and selfish his display today showed that. He needs a good few weeks to regain fitness and think about what's required of an AFL forward.

Benell is worth persisting with, play him off the wing so he can use his dash, he plays to loose to be a solid defender.

Bates not fit yet. He's way underdone.

[waynewussell 6,896]

IN: Martin, Garland, Sylvia

OUT: Miller, Dunn, Bate

[jacey 333]

Loving the panic merchants.

There is no way Bate or Warnock will be dropped and nor should they.

In Sylvia, Martin

Out Dunn, Miller

Strauss has a very nervous first game but I will be very disappointed if he is dropped.

Warnock was outpointed but Scarlett would've been raped with the lack of pressure up field.

Bate had a shocker. He has got a serious problem cause this is one of the many years he has started slow.

IN: Sylvia, Maric, Martin.

Out: Dunn = list clogger, Miller = list clogger, Spencer = Invisible 203 man.

[4jacks 0]

In: Sylvia, Garland (or McNamara if Garland isn't ready), Martin

Out: Bate, Rivers, Spencer

Bate had a shocker, clearly wasn't ready for AFL based on his pre-season.

Rivers injured his ribs in the last I think... may or may not get up for Collingwood. He did run off the ground under his own steam so should be right, I hope.

Spencer just struggled. Martin is more athletic, has a better kick and offers more as a forward.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,401]

In - SYLVIA, Martin, McNamara, Maric, Jetta, Watts, Garland

Out - Dunn, Bruce, MacDonald, McDonald, Bate, Bennell, Spencer

The moron is back with his moronic posts. Can we get him banned forever? PLEASE!

[Roger Mellie 4,173]

Out: Would like to have Miller & Bate out but don't think we have replacements. Jones was atrocious - caught every time AGAIN, Dunn - fumbled every mark in the first half and roamed uselessly in the second.

Poor old Strauss - they were comparing him to Zac Dawson on the radio. I would keep him in to to avoid permanent scarring. Spencer not much chop

In Sylvia umm

How to beat MFC - numbers around the ball, crowd them - add a pinch of pressure and intercept/gather the 75 1 metre handballs to nowhere.

[bing181 9,421]

Apparently Juice tore it up at Casey ... 4 goals, and hard at it.

He and Sylvia in, maybe Garland. Not sure about the rest ...

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[Dexter23 2]

Out:

Dunn

Bruce (Draw the line! If you dont perform your out!Having said that Davey is close if not for our FD inability to coach)

Jones (poor decision making thats just not needed. Sorry Jones back to Casey for a few.)

In:

Stef. If fit we need him. Colliewobbles are bigger bodies than Dawks, and we need him to get to packs and contest!

Maric. He is part of our future and needs weekly game time. I'm happy to sacrifice experience for this guy. Will work nice with Green.

Slvia. Fit and raring to go! Sylvia adds to both our forward midfield, brings hardness, grunt and cannons!

Spencer is needed, regarless of if Martins in. Jolly and Fraser in with another "Fit" ruckman could kill us.

Miller is close to being drop on "performance based reasons" though we need a target.

Its going to be a hard game.