Draft Camp

[45HG 1,539]

Sorry Axis, should've quoted. I was referring to DemonDan

[Axis of Bob 11,285]

Sorry, I shouldn't have jumped that quickly. It did fit quite nicely though!

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Thought I'd dig up 2008 draft camp results so there is some comparrison between this year and last.

REPEAT SPRINTS – 6 x 30 metres

This test involves players running 6 x 30 metres sprints with a 20-second time cycle. For example, if the player runs 30 metres in 4.30 seconds, he then has 15.30 seconds to recover, before starting his next 30-metre sprint.

1 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 24.82 seconds

2 – Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 24.97

Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 24.97

4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 25.10

James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 25.10

6 – Ashley Smith – (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 25.14

7 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.44

Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.44

9 – Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.48

10 – Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 25.49

11 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 25.57

12 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.67

13 – Chris Yarran (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 25.74

HEIGHT – tallest players at the draft camp

1 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 201.7cm

2 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 200.9cm

3 – Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 200.4cm

4 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 200.0cm

5 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 199.7cm

6 – Bart McCulloch (Tassie Mariners, TAS – ruckman) – 198.9cm

7 – Tom Hill (Northern Knights, VIC – ruckman) – 198.5cm

8 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 196.5cm

9 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 196.0cm

10 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 195.8cm

WEIGHT – heaviest players at the draft camp

1 – Matthew Martin (West Adelaide, SA – tall defender) – 99.35kg

2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 94.30kg

3 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 93.90kg

4 – Jordan Lisle (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – tall forward) – 92.75kg

5 – Micheal Hurley (Northern Knights, VIC – tall defender) – 91.80kg

6 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 91.75kg

7 – Clancee Pearce (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 89.75kg

8 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 88.80kg

Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 88.80kg

10 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 88.50kg

AGILITY

This is a slalom-type course where players change directions. The specially-designed circuit, roughly 40 metres in total, is set out in a zig-zag pattern.

1 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 7.77 seconds – draft camp record

2 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 8.03

3 – James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.18

4 – Nick Suban (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.25

5 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.27

6 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.31

7 – Neville Jetta (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 8.32

Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 8.32

9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.34

10 – Liam Jones (Tassie Mariners, TAS – tall forward) – 8.35

THREE-KM TIME TRIAL

This is a straight out three-km time-trial held in racing conditions around the athletics track.

1 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 10min 17sec

2 – Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 10.32

3 – Sam McGarry (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 10.41

4 – Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 10.42

5 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – 10.42

6 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 10.43

7 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 10.44

8 – Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 10.53

9 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 10.57

10 – Matthew Broadbent (Eagles, SA – tall defender) – 10.57

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP

This is a stand and jump test, with the best results from the three or four jumps recorded. To record the jump, a vertex machine is used. A player must slap the highest possible slat on this machine for the best jump to be recorded. Each slat is roughly a centimetre apart.

1 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 78cm

2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 74cm

3 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 72cm

Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 72cm

5 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 70cm

Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 70cm

7 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 69cm

Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm

Bryce Carroll (Western Jets, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm

10 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 67cm

Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 67cm

Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 67cm

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

Winner – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 1.02 metres

This record equalled Brisbane Lion Jared Brennan

20-METRE SPRINT

A straight out 20-metre sprint test, with the best time recorded from three attempts.

1 – Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.80 seconds – Just missed out on the record held by Port Adelaide's Danyle Pearce (2.79 sec)

2 – Jack Watts – (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 2.82

3 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 2.83

4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 2.86

5 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.89

6 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 2.90

7 – Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 2.91

Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.91

9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 2.92

Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 2.92

Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.92

SHUTTLE RUN (AKA BEEP TEST)

The shuttle run is held on the basketball courts. Players must run 20 metres before hearing a beep. It starts off slowly and builds up rapidly, with players increasing their pace significantly. The beeps get quicker each time the players progress. It is a last man standing test. Each player gets one warning – if they miss one beep – they cannot afford to miss another one, as they will be disqualified from the shuttle run. An average draft camp run is level 13.3. A very good level is 14-plus and 15-plus is rare.

1 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – Level 14.6

2 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5

Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5

4 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 14.4

5 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 14.3

Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 14.3

7 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 14.2

Ian Richardson (Claremont, WA – medium forward) – 14.2

9 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 14.1

Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 14.1

The more I look at this the more I can't believe we got Blease where we we did he ranked top 10 in 4 classifications

Edited October 1, 2009 by Diablo Deemon

[Trisul 664]

So Butcher wouldn't have made the top 12+ in the 20m sprint last year. Hmm.

[Wolfmother 182]

Interesting to note that Tom Scully did 15.5 in the shuttle test during his AIS training this year

[jayceebee31 752]

Interesting to note that Tom Scully did 15.5 in the shuttle test during his AIS training this year

Actually he was stopped at 15.5 doing the beep test- he did not compltete it.

[Clanger King 9]

The more I look at this the more I can't believe we got Blease where we we did he ranked top 10 in 4 classifications

Does anyone know how this kid is going i see him as a poor mans Tom Scully i love the way he takes the game on. anyone go to school with him, talk to him or seen him running yet? will be a star.

[jayceebee31 752]

Does anyone know how this kid is going i see him as a poor mans Tom Scully i love the way he takes the game on. anyone go to school with him, talk to him or seen him running yet? will be a star.

Sam Blease, as you know-was taken pick 17, Born 19.02.91 Shown as 184 cms tall, 70 kls in weight.

Sam is a very good skillful player, however in short spurts- moreover as a winger/ half forward flank. However will develop as he grows and develops, especially stamina.

Scully, is a gut busting runner similar to a Judd type. Scully will break some of these other footballers. Will blend brilliantly with Maloney , Jones and Sylvia. I personally think Sylvia, after this preseason will be something special. And after seeing what Fevola has done- will be more interested to give his best as a footballer.

[Wolfmother 182]

Actually he was stopped at 15.5 doing the beep test- he did not compltete it.

I think that was just the way the article was written... he pulled up at 15.5 meaning he didn't continue rather than was stopped because there is no reason to stop a player and 15.5 is damn high

[Clanger King 9]

Sam Blease, as you know-was taken pick 17, Born 19.02.91 Shown as 184 cms tall, 70 kls in weight.

Sam is a very good skillful player, however in short spurts- moreover as a winger/ half forward flank. However will develop as he grows and develops, especially stamina.

Scully, is a gut busting runner similar to a Judd type. Scully will break some of these other footballers. Will blend brilliantly with Maloney , Jones and Sylvia. I personally think Sylvia, after this preseason will be something special. And after seeing what Fevola has done- will be more interested to give his best as a footballer.

I have seen how he plays just wondering how he is going with his rehab. I dont want him to lose and on his explosivness

[Ryan Dee 140]

NAB DRAFT CAMP BRIEFS: DAY 2

Interesting that the talk in the recruiting fraternity is that this years trade period will see around 20 players change teams compared to last years 6.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

The new kicking test gets it's first batch of results:

By Jason Phelan 12:45 PM Thu 01 October, 2009

THE NEWEST addition to the NAB AFL Draft Camp's battery of tests, the kicking assessment, has been unveiled in front of a crowd of curious onlookers in blustery conditions on day three of the camp in Canberra.

The new test is the brain child of former AIS-AFL Academy mentor Nathan Buckley, who undertook a study into junior talent development at the request of the AFL, and found coaches and recruiters believed it to be an area that was lacking at the League's showpiece talent evaluation event.

The new drill caused plenty of nerves at the camp with one draft hopeful admitting he had been up at 3am worrying about it, but it was generally well-received. Draft prospects Gary Rohan, Dustin Martin, Matthew Panos, Justin Bollenhagen and Anthony Delborello were among those to impress.

Rohan, a Geelong Falcon who is already a top five prospect, further enhanced his chances with his performance despite admitting to some nerves.

"It was a bit hard with the wind in front of all the AFL coaches and the recruiters that are here," Rohan said.

"It's pretty hard, but you've just got to concentrate. Just look where you're kicking it to and listen to the fella handballing it to you. You just need to block everything else out.

"Me and my brother back home tried this drill. We've got these trees back home and we'd just try and hit the tree."

Buckley was in the crowd as the drill took place and he was happy with what he saw despite the conditions.

"We don't want it to be blustery, it's not blustery all the time, but dealing with the conditions is part of being a good kick as well," Buckley said.

"It's in its infancy but it's a start. It's something that needed to happen.

"This test may not be here next year, there might be something better, and we hope that there is because we want to make sure that whatever is in place is going to separate the great kicks from the poorer kicks.

"It's the beginning of what we'd like to see continue in terms of measuring skills in the game like kicking and handballing."

A player performing the test gets six kicks. He faces away from the target range of six two-metre wide circles on the ground, runs in to receive a handball from the caller who at the same time calls out one of the targets at random.

These are short left or right (20m), middle left or right (30m) and long left or right (40m).

The player must turn around a cone and hit the teammate standing inside that target within the allotted time with points awarded from one to five for each kick with a five earned when the teammate marks the ball without moving.

The test is taped so AFL recruiters can further break down a player's kicking action, but Buckley believed the major upside of the test would be seen in years to come.

"The real benefit for me is for a 13 or 14-year-old who is thinking about an AFL career and wants to be recognised and wants to be the best he can be," he said.

"He knows now that in three or four years time he's going to be measured on his kicking and that's important.

"If I'm [that kid] I know that I'm going to have to work on my kicking because its going to be judged when the recruiters have a look and decide whether I've got an AFL career or not."

Edited October 1, 2009 by Diablo Deemon

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,883]

Are you saying that you think Butcher is slow?

Butcher is actually quick and very agile, especially for a big guy.

Just surprised thats all. I have only seen him play once and he did not get close enough to the ball to see if he could move.

[jayceebee31 752]

Rohan wins kicking test on 23 points - others to shine (22) - Next best on 22/30 were Martin, Gysberts, Harwood, Potts, Black, Panos and Winmar

next on 21 were-Astbury & Harms

Edited October 1, 2009 by jayceebee31

[volders 22]

Martin seems to be testing well, 2nd 20m sprint, 6th repeat, 2nd kicking test. top 2-6 is going to be very interesting imo.

[jayceebee31 752]

Just been told the standout at thecamp is Sam Reid- brother of Ben at Collingwood whom has been a defender for the last 12 months who played CHB for Vic country and Murray Bushrangers-192 -84-(27/12/910 whom excelled in the beep test 14.8 as well as other events.Martin also did well. Full results will be tabled tomorrow.

A guy Braydon Norris from Murray Bushrangers- did a beep test of 15.7.

Brayden Norris (Murray Bushrangers, VIC)

Height: 186cm, Weight: 69kg, DOB: 27/11/91

Recruited from: Alexandra F/C

Hard-running forward whose strong hands on the lead are a clear strength. Pace off the mark and sound endurance make him tough to match up on.

[DemonDan... 77]

Gotta love people who use hindsight as evidence.

Evidence for what?

I was basically quoting what BP said, 'in hindsight he should done his homework on Jetta' -he pretty much said that himself..

Did you even bother to read the article? <_<

[Rogue 585]

I think that was just the way the article was written... he pulled up at 15.5 meaning he didn't continue rather than was stopped because there is no reason to stop a player and 15.5 is damn high

Your assessment might be right but the quote indicates that someone pulled him up at 15.5, rather than he pulled up at 15.5:

"It is a pity we won't see him do his beep test but he did one up here when he was at the AIS and he had to be pulled up at 15.5," Sheehan said.

Yes we could have rookied him, but I think McKenzie was a very good rookie choice

Jetta's being touted as a top 15 pick, and perhaps as high as #7 according to the aforementioned article.

While McKenzie's got a good wrap from CC, if McKenzie had been overlooked last year I doubt he would warrant a first-round pick in 2009.

Nice one. Giving BP a large bake for not doing his homework, but getting Jetta's name wrong. Twice.

The guy doesn't get paid to know about draftees - I reckon this is a bit harsh.

He's one that got away and I'd love to hear BP's thoughts on what he did to follow up when told by about Lewis Jetta by Neville Jetta's mother. The answer might be nothing, but the answer might be that he followed up and just didn't think the kid looked any good.

Did you read the article? Without further ado, the thougths of BP:

''We drove away. I was busy working through all our picks, and Lewis was a kid from Bunbury I'd never seen play. Then the start of the year came along, he started dominating for Swan District seniors, and I said to John: 'He was sitting right in front of us! We could have rookie listed him at No. 70!'

''So we watched him play, and he's obviously lightning quick and got a lot of talent. At that point, it was probably one of those things where you're so busy sorting through the draft, that you're not really looking for the smoky."

[Chelly 808]

Is there 2 Butchers?

Definitely two of them in the meat section of my local supermarket.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

Kid in a lollie shop. What can I get with my 6d?

I'm glad I'm not a recruiter for the dees. I think it would be an easier job doining it for a top 4 team but damn our boy is on a hiding to nothing. If he gets the two best he's earnt his dough but if he doesn't he is a spud that shall be boo'd forever. Better him than me.

[45HG 1,539]

Rogue, isn't there are quote in the article that Scully was pulled up at 15.5 because his coaches wanted him to think about how far he could've gone.

[Nasher 33,607]

Did you read the article? Without further ado, the thougths of BP:

''We drove away. I was busy working through all our picks, and Lewis was a kid from Bunbury I'd never seen play. Then the start of the year came along, he started dominating for Swan District seniors, and I said to John: 'He was sitting right in front of us! We could have rookie listed him at No. 70!'

''So we watched him play, and he's obviously lightning quick and got a lot of talent. At that point, it was probably one of those things where you're so busy sorting through the draft, that you're not really looking for the smoky."

There was an article? I was just skimming over the thread.

Thanks for that.

[45HG 1,539]

Besides, if we took Jetta with our last pick in 2008, we wouldn't have had space on the list to participate in the PSD and would have missed out on Jurrah. I know who I'd rather have, with all due respect to Jetta.

We could've rookied him instead of Healey.

We could have rookied Leroy Jetta at pick 70!!! FFS ..and he wants to play at MFC!!!

Bad miss BP, should have taken the tip and done homework on Leroy! He even said he missed it. He kicked 12 gls in a game just a few weeks b4 BP co-incidently met him, 12 gls from a wing.

..and now he might go top 10!

Evidence for what?

I was basically quoting what BP said, 'in hindsight he should done his homework on Jetta' -he pretty much said that himself..

Did you even bother to read the article? <_<

I did read the article. You're having a whinge that we didn't pick up "Leroy" - I'm saying you most likely didn't know who "Leroy" was last year and are now crying foul.

FWIW, every club missed him last year. What does that tell you?

[Clanger King 9]

Agility (seconds)

1. Kane Lucas 7.95

2. Andrew Hooper 7.98

3. Sam Shaw 8.08

4. Ayden Kennedy 8.12

5. Travis Colyer 8.14

6. Jessie Crichton 8.15

7. Jake Melksham 8.16

8. Andrew Moore 8.17

9. Dylan Grimes, Mitchell Duncan 8.20

Repeat sprints (seconds)

1. Jack Fitzpatrick 23.91

2. Robbie Hicks 24.04

3. Jordan Williams 24.17

4. Travis Colyer 24.36

5. Gary Rohan 24.33

6. Jason Tutt 24.39

7. Dustin Martin 24.56

8. Lewis Jetta 24.61

9. Dylan Grimes 24.69

10. Bradley Sheppard 24.74

Standing vertical jump (cm)

1. James Craig 76

2. Sam Shaw 75

3. Tom Hill, Aaron Black, Andrew Hooper 70

4. Lewis Jetta 69

5. Ayden Kennedy, Kane Lucas 67

6. John Butcher, Sam Reid 66

20-metre sprint (seconds)

1. Ayden Kennedy 2.88

2. Dustin Martin 2.89

3. Andrew Hooper 2.90

4. Sam Reid 2.92

5. Sam Shaw, Kane Lucas, Gary Rohan 2.93

6. Lewis Jetta, Dylan Grimes 2.95

7. Robbie Hicks, Jack Fitzpatrick, Bradley Sheppard, Travis Colyer 2.96

Shuttle run/Beep test (level)

1. Brayden Norris 15.6

2. Ryan Bastinac, Marcus Davies 15.1

3. Mark Hutchings, Joshua Cowan, Jason Tutt 14.12

4. Sam Reid, Nat Fyfe 14.7

5. Dylan Roberton 14.6

6. Travis Colyer, Jake Melksham 14.5

Kicking test (six kicks scored 1-5 points)

1. Gary Rohan 23 points 77% efficency

2. Dustin Martin, Jordon Gysberts, Ryan Harwood, Simon Potts, Aaron Black, Matthew Panos, Nicky Winmar 22 73%

Edited October 2, 2009 by Clanger King

[Carn dees 108]

I hope we pick up hooper with a later pick.