Rivers and Robbo

[e25 5]

Robbo still needs to go.

It was a better performance but his attitude is still unacceptable in my book

[Jaded No More 58,832]

Robbo can play up a bit, and it does get annoying, but he stands up when the game is on the line and has won us plenty off his own boot in the past.

We don't have anyone right now capable of replacing his four goal contribution, therefore he stays.

Gotta take the good with the bad.

By the way Graz, Robbo's second efforts have been much better since he was dropped. One example yesterday was where he dived on a loose ball in the forward pocket, literally sliding across the ground to get under the opponent's feet. It was a great defensive effort, and one that he needs to keep repeating every week.

[Binmans PA 26,397]

There were at least two times yesterday where he went to ground, so he didn't have to chase. He did however put on a couple of good chases. But there was also a moment, where Jetta was in space to his right and should and could have easily given the handball off to him, who would have had an easy shot from 30-35 out directly in front, but instead Robbo tried a snap from 40 and it ended up going 20 metres and closer to the right forward pocket boundary line. That was one of the most damning moments of his game for me, yesterday.

[BringbackViney 0]

Best game from Rivers I've seen in a long time, and I'm ashamed to say I'd given up on Robbo. Very pleased he proved me wrong.

Yes me too (Re Robbo) must have been the yellow boots

[BringbackViney 0]

What is this attitude your talking about, robbo loves the club and plays for the club!

Im not arguing about this again as i dont want to bring negativity out of a great possitive day, i love robbo and am very greatfull for things his done for the club!

I agree I think Robbo loves the club and he has done a lot for the cvlub

[brey9186 102]

Jared Rivers - see what sam fisher has done in the 1st qtr vs the cats... this is what you should be doing!!!

[beelzebub 22,272]

Im not sure whether or not many were simply wearing rose coloured glasses or simply refuse to subject some favoured sons to the same scrutiny as others.

Over all Rivers game was a vast improvement, but Ill go as far as saying his game was very nearly very costly. His decision making is the key, not just his kicking. It is non sensical to have done many of his plays going forward.. kicking to ridiculous contests and he must have been watching the Cam Bruce school of handpassing at times as it was woeful.

No one, certainly not I questions his gutsiness..but it means very little in the grand scheme of things if you keep giving it to the opposition..

Having said that he ( JR ) had only to look at what Grimes was doing to understand good footy.

[Yze_Magic 3]

Rivers nearly lost the game for us with 3 straight woeful turnovers by foot in the last quarter.

I still thought he was great though, you csnt teach courage like that, or timing.

[rpfc 27,617]

Jared Rivers - see what sam fisher has done in the 1st qtr vs the cats... this is what you should be doing!!!

That's ironic, considering the Saints supporters I know have been dissappointed with Fisher's kicking this year...

And three exclamation marks?

Really?

[Keepin up with the Joneses 48]

Rivers was great. As was our entire back half. Frawley, Warnock. Great games. I can't say the same for Robbo though. A few more selfish efforts from him.

The majority of the side was fantastic though. Some skills errors, but they're to be expected. The young kids in particular were just brilliantly exciting to watch. When Jurrah runs at a pack he's more exciting than anything I've seen for a long time. Jetta's tackling and defensive pressure was fantastic all day as well. Bennell played an extremely encouraging game as well. Not all of his disposals were 100% effective, but he seemed to cover a lot more ground than usual and it almost seemed as though he felt he belonged today. Then Jackie Grimes. Wow, what a game he played. Another draft of more young talent and in three or four years we'll definitely be contenders.

Jurrah Floating to take the pack mark reminded me of Michael Jordan jumping from a long way out at a slam dunk. he just keeps floating vertically, almost defying gravity.

Does anyone else see a bit of Joel Selwood of 2007 in Jack Grimes of 2009?

[Kiss of Death 708]

Hated Robbo's boots, but understood and appreciated why he wore them. I don't really like the showponies who have to wear different boots etc. to stand out (reimers etc)

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

Rivers was good not geat. You can't turn the ball over as much as he did as well as that effort to spoil Lynch who luckily missed the shot on goal and say he was great. It was his best performance this year but that's not saying much. He would still have to perform better and more consistantly for me to jump on his bandwagon. Robbo played well and he was on no mug either but like Rivers he will have to become more consistant before I would consider letting him go around for 1 more year. The team was good with their tackling and playing on at every opportunity I can't fault them. Grimes was superb. He would be the favorite for the rising star award if he wasn't playing for Melbourne. Brock was back to the Brock of old. Where has he been all this time?

[rpfc 27,617]

Brock was back to the Brock of old. Where has he been all this time?

In fairness to him, and by extension, your username, he had a good 5 weeks leading into a diabolical match last weekend.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Gotta take the good with the bad.

By the way Graz, Robbo's second efforts have been much better since he was dropped. One example yesterday was where he dived on a loose ball in the forward pocket, literally sliding across the ground to get under the opponent's feet. It was a great defensive effort, and one that he needs to keep repeating every week.

Playing your foavourites again Jaded?

For the past few years, Robbo's good has been very rare against the bad.

Robbo's 2nd efforts were again poor. He just cannot keep his feet in a contest and rarely has a second effort. We played an opposition that gave Robbo far more latitude than he has been given in years.

And of those four goals, two were easy receives.

In fairness to him, and by extension, your username, he had a good 5 weeks leading into a diabolical match last weekend.

In all fairness, McLean before this week has been dreadful. He was not on his own in that. But as our supposed No 1 midfielder, he had been very ordinary.

[rpfc 27,617]

In all fairness, McLean before this week has been dreadful. He was not on his own in that. But as our supposed No 1 midfielder, he had been very ordinary.

What an indictment?!

Dreadful?

Going that far?

I would have him behind only Bruce, Davey, and Moloney in the Bluey.

He's been slow, but has competed very well after a very poor first three rounds.

Just as an aside, I heard CC on 3AW mention that Brock didn't do any speed work in the PS and that we should expect him to get better in that department next season.

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

In fairness to him, and by extension, your username, he had a good 5 weeks leading into a diabolical match last weekend.

His game against St.Kilda and Bulldogs were good but his games in between even though he got a bit of the ball were average. He has had a very disappointing year, he not the only one mind you. My expectations of McLean are very high. I want him to be captain the game against West Coast was the first time this year that he showed that he was captain material.

[rusty_kingswood 0]

Playing your foavourites again Jaded?

For the past few years, Robbo's good has been very rare against the bad.

Robbo's 2nd efforts were again poor. He just cannot keep his feet in a contest and rarely has a second effort. We played an opposition that gave Robbo far more latitude than he has been given in years.

And of those four goals, two were easy receives.

In all fairness, McLean before this week has been dreadful. He was not on his own in that. But as our supposed No 1 midfielder, he had been very ordinary.

Taking another un warrented swipe at Robbo again Rhino?

Robbo not being able to keep his feet has nothing to do with hs 2nd efforts. His 2nd efforts were much improved yesterday, but still not good enough.

Robbo was back to SOME form again last night, and yes, WC gave him a bit more room, but credit were credit is due.

He wont be back to old form by the time he parts with the MFC, but still plays a role.

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

I would have him behind only Bruce, Davey, and Moloney in the Bluey.

Just as an aside, I heard CC on 3AW mention that Brock didn't do any speed work in the PS and that we should expect him to get better in that department next season.

I think Sylvia has been better this year as has Grimes, Warnock and Frawley.

I would hope so.

[Jaded No More 58,832]

Taking another un warrented swipe at Robbo again Rhino?

And he says I play favourites...

At least I acknowledge Robbo's downfalls, all you do Rhino is find every negative under the sun and go on attacking those you don't like.

Will you at least acknowledge Robbo's brave dive on the ball, just as I've said that he needs to get better with his second efforts and stop the acting up?

Good to see you give some support to Brock this week though... back on the bandwagon are we?

[Carn dees 108]

Playing your foavourites again Jaded?

For the past few years, Robbo's good has been very rare against the bad.

Robbo's 2nd efforts were again poor. He just cannot keep his feet in a contest and rarely has a second effort. We played an opposition that gave Robbo far more latitude than he has been given in years.

In the last 2 years robbo has been our main source of goals, and with the shitty delivery he gets any forward would look ordinary.

As for he cant keep his feet, it because half the time his on the ground from flying for the ball and putting his body on the line and taking big marks.

Give this guy a bloody break, he truly loves the club and tries his heart out, i no it can be frustrating because his chasing isnt a strong point and he does play for free kicks sometimes.

Robbo played a great game on the weekend and for you to find negatives out of his game just proves your being biased, if i went all picky and pointed out all the negatives there would still be a long list regardless of the great win we had.

[H_T 2,941]

I only saw Robertson lay on the ground while the opposition ran away with the ball once yesterday. Sadly, that's an improvement.

Yes, that might have been the occasion when his opponent Hurn ran the length of the ground with the ball. To directly set up a goal. My summary: Rivers played well. Robbo played his best game for some time.

I can understand some of the emotion of some players after kicking a goal. But geez..........Robbo goes overboard.

[Swampfox 190]

In the last 2 years robbo has been our main source of goals, and with the shitty delivery he gets any forward would look ordinary.

As for he cant keep his feet, it because half the time his on the ground from flying for the ball and putting his body on the line and taking big marks.

When taking the mark of the day exceeds doing the team things what did you expect

i no it can be frustrating because his chasing isnt a strong point and he does play for free kicks sometimes.

Yeah we know, in fact we have known that for years

Robbo played a great game on the weekend and for you to find negatives out of his game just proves your being biased, if i went all picky and pointed out all the negatives there would still be a long list regardless of the great win we had

He did indeed and after seeing his career so far i am entitled to point out his short comings along with the magic moments

Always thought improving a weakness makes you better

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[Carn dees 108]

Taking a mark is his job, taking mark of the day is just what his specialty is, how is this exceeding team things him flying for marks doing what he can to get chance at goal. Id rather him fly up then not even contest.

Also lots of people have always been slow, how many key forwards specialise in chasing.

Robbo also maybe slower than ussual due to that injury not having any preseason. Although robbo never really has been known for fast chase downs or maybe even speed in general its got him through 230 odd games.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Robbo not being able to keep his feet has nothing to do with hs 2nd efforts. His 2nd efforts were much improved yesterday, but still not good enough.

His inability to keep his feet kills his ability to make consistent and worthy 2nd and 3rd efforts.

"But still not good enough" Taking another unwarranted swipe at Robbo again Rusty?

At least I acknowledge Robbo's downfalls, all you do Rhino is find every negative under the sun and go on attacking those you don't like.

No you dont. You're the first person to come up with an inplausible defence of a player who has done little to substantiate any such accolade.

Will you at least acknowledge Robbo's brave dive on the ball, just as I've said that he needs to get better with his second efforts and stop the acting up?

Its was vewy bwave.

It was one 2nd effort when he fails to make soo many others. But that's good enough for you sugar.

Good to see you give some support to Brock this week though... back on the bandwagon are we?

Can we assume that since Brock played well this week that he is not injured at the moment and if he does play poorly in the future then he is obviously injured?

Your recognition of my compliment to Brock just makes a fool of your petty comment "every negative under the sun and go on attacking those you don't like. " But what's new with you? I guess you can blot the previous 4 weeks of Brock from your memory as if it never happened. There that's better.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Taking a mark is his job, taking mark of the day is just what his specialty is, how is this exceeding team things him flying for marks doing what he can to get chance at goal. Id rather him fly up then not even contest.

Also lots of people have always been slow, how many key forwards specialise in chasing.

Robbo also maybe slower than ussual due to that injury not having any preseason. Although robbo never really has been known for fast chase downs or maybe even speed in general its got him through 230 odd games.

You are right. Robbo should continue to do the low percentage things in preference to the higher percentage contests that help the team. He should also continue to work on that goal kick from flat on his back. Those tricks win games.

Chasing??? Robbo Chasing???..... You are right again. Why should he chase? He never has and other dont do it.

And most of all he has to think of himself.