Predictions

[Deeoldfart 7,999]

........................................................... Once again, with feeling -- it is far too early into Bailey's tenure for anyone to judge his ability.

Wholeheartedly agree E25. Bails is currently half way through his contract, and has, by and large, a group of very average seniors and inexperienced kids with potential, playing for him at the moment. The Dees are coming from a lot further back than Hawthorn, and while all of us here are impatient for success, we also need to take a deep breath and be realistic in our expectations.

[Deefender 231]

I remember when Balme was coach and we won the first

few games then fell in a heap.

This type of malaise lasted for years, like a chronic fatigue syndrome

that was especially apparent on interstate trips.

I'm not interested in finals as such, but only one final

and that's winning the grand final.

These days I am optimistic about the future of the club with

Jimmy and with Bailey and the other members of the off field team.

On field, the future looks bright.

[beelzebub 23,250]

The first two years under Baileys charge are essentially strategic. Next year is a true measure of where we all /he is

[dee-luded 2,959]

I'm thinking we're going to win about 6 games next year, Finishing, either with the wooden spoon, or 2nd bottom, to perhaps Fremantle.

This would possibly see us, in draft terms recieve pick 4 or 6.

It seems, due to no priority picks being allocated for 2010, that all teams will stretch their efforts to retain as much "Face" as possible.

Gc-17 will recieve picks 1,2,3,-,5,-,7,-,9,-----,15, & 1st pick of each round.

[beelzebub 23,250]

The thing is we need to stop considering our salvation will come from perennially getting early picks. fair enough for this year but then thats two years good cropping and after this it needs to go down the development and refineent path. If after this year we dont seriously have some talent then we really ought to give it all away. From here on ( after 09 ) is top up and possibly trade...not rebuild

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

I'm thinking we're going to win about 6 games next year, Finishing, either with the wooden spoon, or 2nd bottom, to perhaps Fremantle.

This would possibly see us, in draft terms recieve pick 4 or 6.

It seems, due to no priority picks being allocated for 2010, that all teams will stretch their efforts to retain as much "Face" as possible.

Gc-17 will recieve picks 1,2,3,-,5,-,7,-,9,-----,15, & 1st pick of each round.

I am pretty sure that PP still exist next year. I have seen no official documentation to the contary. Are you sure this is the case and if so can you point out where the AFL has said this?

If god forbid we fail to win 5 games again in 2010 I think we will get pick 1 & 4.

[beelzebub 23,250]

there are no PP's next year.. they are all suspended. Not sure for following years..but likely to be same when West Sydney enters.

Moral.. Dont count on any rewards for bottoming out after this year

[dee-luded 2,959]

I am pretty sure that PP still exist next year. I have seen no official documentation to the contary. Are you sure this is the case and if so can you point out where the AFL has said this?

If god forbid we fail to win 5 games again in 2010 I think we will get pick 1 & 4.

Draft Concession Package Summary

2009 National Draft

> Ability to sign upto 12x 17 year olds born between January 1st-April 30th 1992 in 2009

2009 Rookie Draft

> All first 5 selections - pick 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5

2010 National Draft

> 9x 1st round picks - 1, 2, 3,-5,-7,-9,-11,-13,-and 15 (all priority picks suspended) and the first pick of every other round (i.e. pick 26 and 43)

> Ability to sign a up to 16 uncontracted players from all 16 other AFL clubs in 2010 (AFL clubs losing players will be compensated with future draft pick per AFL formula determining player value)

http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/04/gc17.html

[Roost It 1,434]

The first two years under Baileys charge are essentially strategic. Next year is a true measure of where we all /he is

What's your "true measure"?

[beelzebub 23,250]

What's your "true measure"?

Success..what else, but you can tilt at windmills or pick your moments. If the Penultimate achievent is a premiership and the gradient is steep then the wise man plots a course across the grade easing his way. This is how I see the first two years. Once more accommodating ground is found then a more direct tilt can be amassed.

I would expect more competitve team selections, more forthright expectations of youth , less reliance ( if any ) on back end players and the fast tracking of talent.

This will show up as "true measure " with a steady climb upwards.

[rpfc 28,079]

Success..what else, but you can tilt at windmills or pick your moments. If the Penultimate achievent is a premiership and the gradient is steep then the wise man plots a course across the grade easing his way. This is how I see the first two years. Once more accommodating ground is found then a more direct tilt can be amassed.

I would expect more competitve team selections, more forthright expectations of youth , less reliance ( if any ) on back end players and the fast tracking of talent.

This will show up as "true measure " with a steady climb upwards.

What is the ultimate achievement? Two flags?

Next year we should be better, of course, it goes without saying.

But our best players will still be toddlers.

The next part isn't directed at BB, as such.

2010 could be 12 wins or 7 wins, and let's not be daft - it matters when those wins come. If they come early he will get an extension quickly. If they come on the middle of the season, Bailey will fight off some pressure and get a couple more years.

And if they come at the end of the season, Sean Wellman will be coaching those wins.

One year to go from the spoon to respectibility with a young group is a lot of pressure. Give him 2011 aswell.

Give him an extension before 2010.

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

Once again, with feeling -- it is far too early into Bailey's tenure for anyone to judge his ability.

Are you kidding me he has been shocking. We can't win a game and we seem to be going nowhere. If we are playing the same type of football at the same time next year he won't see out the year.

[e25 5]

Are you kidding me he has been shocking. We can't win a game and we seem to be going nowhere. If we are playing the same type of football at the same time next year he won't see out the year.

I agree. Well, I agree that if our record is the same he won't see out the year.

But that is why we will judge it at this time next year instead of now.

But the style is not the issue -- it is execution.

The rest of your post is thoughtless.

Stop being a sheep and pandering to the whims of the media.

[rpfc 28,079]

Are you kidding me he has been shocking. We can't win a game and we seem to be going nowhere. If we are playing the same type of football at the same time next year he won't see out the year.

He's been shocking?

I guess he must have forgotten to tell Moloney, McLean and Jones how to kick into the forward line properly...

We are going nowhere?

Where were you last year? That was a train-wreck in which we lost 7 games by 10 goals or more. You're delusional if you think we are as bad as last year. We are still the worst team, but that is because we are coming from so far back.

Forget the last two weeks, people. Young, crap teams are going to play awfully occasionally.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Are you kidding me he has been shocking. We can't win a game and we seem to be going nowhere. If we are playing the same type of football at the same time next year he won't see out the year.

What is it you don't like about getting 2 of Trengove, Scully or Morabito?