Juice Newton- Criticisms, Comments and Kudos

[classy dees 42]

Please Note:

As with the Sylvia thread, I have merged the other various Newton threads into this one.

Yes it makes this a massive topic to browse through, but it beats having to rename Demonland "The Michael Newton Circus".

Cheers

jaded, it makes it impossible to follow. there are 100 different conversations going on and nothing of substance (and if there is there is not a hope of finding it).

i have no idea what the solution is, but 9 threads into 1 doesn't work. i know that if i see a thread with even 100+ posts i dont read it because by the end it is drivel.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

At least Michael Newton tries, He is simply not blessed with ability.

Who are you watching?!!! Juice has ability to burn. You know he took mark of the year in, like, his first few games. He can kick freaky ones like he did late last year... I won't go on. You can be sure it's his application that's the issue, not his ability.

I feel sorry for Bailey who has no option but to play this guy. I implore all Melbourne supporters to watch Matthew Bate closely for just one game and take note how much of a pretend footballer he is, This guy does not chase, Consistently finds that spot on the ground called NO MANS LAND and on numerous occasions takes short steps to avoid contact. NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!!

WHAT?!! Bate is one of the biggest triers in the side. Up there with Bell for gut-busting running in the wrong direction.

Another Newton thread?

Dear lord.

To keep your last howler company.

And that is perhaps the most realistic post on Newton thus far.

Yup. Probably goes for about half our 22, maybe 3/4s of it on a good day.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

Please Note:

As with the Sylvia thread, I have merged the other various Newton threads into this one.

Yes it makes this a massive topic to browse through, but it beats having to rename Demonland "The Michael Newton Circus".

Cheers

I wish you had not done that. I was making a comparison between the efforts of Clint Bartram & Michael Newton last sunday. Now the thread is lost.

Yhankyou so much-you have obviously never been an editor.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

As I said, yes it makes it hard to follow but we cannot have so many threads going on about the same subject.

It gets confusing and frankly very annoying. Posters should know better than to start new threads without so much as scrolling down the page to check if a topic is already being discussed.

Anyone who was having a conversation with someone, will be able to find it again and carry on. Otherwise, I assure you that no real substance has been lost in the merging of threads (only 2 were merged btw)

Edit: Watch and learn http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting :D

[pantaloons 2,019]

How many threads could we possibly need acknowledging that we have a player on our list who puts in zero effort and shows utter contempt for his teammates and Melbourne supporters upon taking the field? Once he's banished to the Casey seconds to play out the rest of his charitable contract we can move on and stop wasting valuable cyber space with musings on the man.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

As I said, yes it makes it hard to follow but we cannot have so many threads going on about the same subject.

It gets confusing and frankly very annoying. Posters should know better than to start new threads without so much as scrolling down the page to check if a topic is already being discussed.

Anyone who was having a conversation with someone, will be able to find it again and carry on. Otherwise, I assure you that no real substance has been lost in the merging of threads (only 2 were merged btw)

Edit: Watch and learn http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting :D

It wasn't the same Topic at all, and i don't care how many Topics are on the list-if they are there people wish to discuss them. Once a thread is over 150-200 nobody goes near it.

By Joining threads you dilute the content. As an editor i am glad to show you more examples at any time.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

It wasn't the same Topic at all, and i don't care how many Topics are on the list-if they are there people wish to discuss them. Once a thread is over 150-200 nobody goes near it.

By Joining threads you dilute the content. As an editor i am glad to show you more examples at any time.

Well I'm not an editor, I'm a moderator, so I apologise if I ruined this Shakespearean masterpiece

Obviously we don't need to keep adding to this thread forever, but there are like 5 Michael Newton threads on the first page alone, which is so very unnecessary. I did not combine the little psychological analysis thread into this one, because it really doesn't suit, but a recent thread talking about Newton pulling his finger out did not deserve its own thread.

By the way, the content in this thread is about as dilute as it is ever going to get

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

Well I'm not an editor, I'm a moderator, so I apologise if I ruined this Shakespearean masterpiece

Obviously we don't need to keep adding to this thread forever, but there are like 5 Michael Newton threads on the first page alone, which is so very unnecessary. I did not combine the little psychological analysis thread into this one, because it really doesn't suit, but a recent thread talking about Newton pulling his finger out did not deserve its own thread.

By the way, the content in this thread is about as dilute as it is ever going to get

Wasting my time..whatever. The Moderators philosophy "Do it my way or else" Not Happy Jan....

[FitZ 0]

I thought an editor would grasp which words need capitalization and which don't

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

I thought an editor would grasp which words need capitalization and which don't

I do..I use it as Volume on a PC. So one can read it the right way.

[drdrake 3,163]

I left Sunday night disappointed with Newton but I now think he deserves 3-4 games more to prove himself. The reasoning behind this is ball movement into our forward line is second rate. No forward in the competion would of kick 3-4 goals for MFC on Sunday, our forward line had 6-8 crow defenders in there every time the ball went in and we had 2-3 forwards. On top of the extra defenders our midfield couldn't hit a target and we had slow ball movement into out 50m area.

OK he missed 2 goals that he should of kicked agreed but don't hang him on that. He only has only come into the side when we need a key forward tp step up and most of the time he has got the 2nd best tall defender. Let him play 3-4 games where Robbo and Miller are with him he is the third tall option, the only issue I have is the next 3-4 games are against 3 of the best teams in the comp and West Coast away, our midfield needs to get the supply to our forward line with quick decent kicks, If this happens and Newton still can't get goals then make the call.

Ball movement is the key our transfer from defense into the attacking 50 is slow and we are over using the footy. This allows teams to get numbers back and our midfielders to get easy touches in the back half. We get stuck then last resort we bomb it long to a position where we are out numbered.

We continue to attack our forwards but our midfielders are slow and besides Davey we have no one that can break the lines. We need to inject speed and skill into our midfield this area determines how well guys like Newton, Bate, Miller, Robbo and even Watts when he comes in play. If we cant get "good footy" to our forward line our forwards will be average.

[Cards13 9,117]

He would struggle to bruise a bunch of grapes with a bump.

RR you need to watch the replay, twice in two weeks he has gone out of his way knock players on there arse to give team mates time when we had the ball, he might not be a ducks bung hole as a footballer but he is throwing himself into more contests than he used to, not saying it is enough but he is better than he was.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

RR you need to watch the replay, twice in two weeks he has gone out of his way knock players on there arse to give team mates time when we had the ball, he might not be a ducks bung hole as a footballer but he is throwing himself into more contests than he used to, not saying it is enough but he is better than he was.

I am not doubting your word but that just means he must have been truly wretched before this latest renaisance!!

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

I don't wish the bloke any personal harm, but if I ever see him run out in the Melbourne guernsey again I will projectile vomit. The sooner he's off the list, the sooner we can all stop being frustrated by his complete lack of effort.

Please advise where you will be sitting at games that he is playing in so I can sit a couple of rows away. Ta.

[Rogue 585]

jaded, it makes it impossible to follow. there are 100 different conversations going on

Fwiw, I agree.

Some new threads should be locked or merged with an existing topic, but not all conversations - and that's what threads are - that relate to a particular topic are taking the same 'angle', so to speak.

[deanox 9,922]

maybe we could make a juice newton board, sort of like we have a drafting board at the end of the year?

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,834]

How did your bundle of class go against Geelong when the pressure was on? Awfully cold day at the Cattery but he still melted and was never seen .

I'd still take 4 TJ kicks a game over 95% of our rubbish at the moment.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I'd still take 4 TJ kicks a game over 95% of our rubbish at the moment.

It might take him 3 quarters to get them and they will all be easy uncontested ones. His opponent will have got 20 possessions in the meantime.

I am sure he is impressed Voss as much as he impresses you.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

RR you need to watch the replay, twice in two weeks he has gone out of his way knock players on there arse to give team mates time when we had the ball, he might not be a ducks bung hole as a footballer but he is throwing himself into more contests than he used to, not saying it is enough but he is better than he was.

I have watched Newton play AFL/VFL footy for a number of years. I am not sure why you would be excited about Newton doing twice in 2 weeks whatever other unheralded hard working footballers do a dozen times a game.

Nothing to get excited about.

[titan_uranus 25,020]

Miller's kicked 3 from 8 attempts, is he to be considered a capable AFL forward? Bear in mind he's had nearly 100 extra AFL games to practice his "craft".

Miller imposes himself on the contest. He runs fifty times harder than Newton. He puts his body on the line.

Newton is weak, does not impose himself on contests, gives up some chases, and doesn't run out 4 quarters.

Lets stop concentrating on how bad he is when the ball is in his hands, and talk about how terrible he is when the ball is not in his hands.

Agreed.

9 shots at goal in 2 matches is enough to be considered a capable AFL forward.

Like I said, that's half the battle.

Obviously the execution is letting him down - no one is disputing that.

It might be in your book, but it's not in mine. Especially considering how little else he does. For someone like Newton to be in the team, if he isn't to do anything of note when he doesn't have the ball, I'd be expecting many more shots on goal, and many more goals. As it stands, he needs to either up the goal/shots on goal tally considerably, or start to play proper defensive football when we don't have posession.

You get your chance after sitting out a few games, and you grab it and play your guts out......you don't stand around looking disinterested........he does not deserve a few more games he hasn't earned the right

That's exactly right. He's had plenty of time to stew over his problems at VFL level. And he's had plenty of chances, upon returning to Melbourne, to take command of a game and show that he's got what it takes. It still hasn't happened.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I'll stick my neck out and say that Newton will have kicked at least 3 goals from 12 shots by the time the 500th post is made in this thread!

[H_T 3,047]

I'll stick my neck out and say that Newton will have kicked at least 3 goals from 12 shots by the time the 500th post is made in this thread!

Indeed. Holy Guacomole! It's not like you Rhino, to stick your neck out like that!...

We'll take it on board anyway.

[delighted 0]

Indeed. Holy Guacomole! It's not like you Rhino, to stick your neck out like that!...

We'll take it on board anyway.

If Juice gets a game this week i will vomit!

Pathetic, breaks my heart watching his sooky, mopey, bad attitude on the ground. Bring in someone who wants it bring in the JURRAH

[Cards13 9,117]

Miller imposes himself on the contest. He runs fifty times harder than Newton. He puts his body on the line.

Newton is weak, does not impose himself on contests, gives up some chases, and doesn't run out 4 quarters.

As I said to someone else on here you need to actually watch him when we do no have the ball in our fwd line. That is one thing he has improved on, his chasing whilst we don't have the ball.

[Cards13 9,117]

If Juice gets a game this week i will vomit!

Pathetic, breaks my heart watching his sooky, mopey, bad attitude on the ground. Bring in someone who wants it bring in the JURRAH

So how does Jurrah want it more???? I have watch Jurrah play two games and he is far from demonstrative and I have not noticed any MFC tattoo's ffs.