Melbourne (from)

2. Nathan Jones

3. Clint Bartram

5. Brock McLean

6. Matthew Bate

7. Brad Miller

8. James Frawley

10. Cale Morton

11. Paul Johnson

12. Colin Sylvia

14. Lynden Dunn

15. Ricky Petterd

16. Jack Grimes

18. Brad Green

20. Colin Garland

21. Daniel Bell

23. James McDonald

25. Kyle Cheney

26. John Meesen

29. Michael Newton

32. Cameron Bruce

33. Austin Wonaeamirri

34. Stefan Martin

35. Trent Zomer

36. Aaron Davey

37. Matthew Warnock

41. Rohan Bail

42. Jake Spencer

44. Shane Valenti

45. Matthew Whelan

Melbourne (from)

2. Nathan Jones

3. Clint Bartram

5. Brock McLean

6. Matthew Bate

7. Brad Miller

8. James Frawley

10. Cale Morton

11. Paul Johnson

12. Colin Sylvia

14. Lynden Dunn

15. Ricky Petterd

16. Jack Grimes

18. Brad Green

20. Colin Garland

21. Daniel Bell

23. James McDonald

25. Kyle Cheney

26. John Meesen

29. Michael Newton

32. Cameron Bruce

33. Austin Wonaeamirri

34. Stefan Martin

35. Trent Zomer

36. Aaron Davey

37. Matthew Warnock

41. Rohan Bail

42. Jake Spencer

44. Shane Valenti

45. Matthew Whelan

No Buckley and no Moloney of the players we might have expected to play.

Hey, Bail's in. The other thread on this topic suggested that no first year players were going to play, so it's good to see Bail in the squad.

What's the word on Moloney?

Good to see Zomer has been included.

After the Intra-Club match I think he's earnt his spot in the line up.

Good luck to him.

Gippy

Looking forward too seeing Spencer, Zomer and Bail have crack!

from the hawks web site- Please note the Club will not play an intra-club practice match. They will have to be underdone!

"The Hawks will take on Melbourne in Launceston on Saturday with a squad containing 13 premiership players.

Notable absentees include Luke Hodge, Lance Franklin, Jordan Lewis and Trent Croad who are all on the comeback trail from injury.

Of the newcomers, there will be plenty of interest in debutant Ryan Schoenmakers, the club's first-round draft pick from last year.

Fellow draftee Liam Shiels has also been named as have rookies Haydn Kiel, Luke Breust, Riley Milne, Garry Moss, Matthew Suckling and Cameron Stokes."

Hawthorn (from)

2. Jarryd Roughead

5. Sam Mitchell

6. Mark Williams

7. Michael Osborne

10. Chance Bateman

11. Clinton Young

12. Brad Sewell

13. Simon Taylor

14. Grant Birchall

16. Beau Dowler

18. Brent Guerra

19. Mitchell Thorp

21. Ben McGlynn

22. Travis Tuck

25. Ryan Schoenmakers

26. Liam Shiels

27. Stephen Gilham

28. Garry Moss

30. Campbell Brown

31. Stuart Dew

32. Josh Kennedy

33. Cyril Rioli

35. Jarryd Morton

37. Brendan Whitecross

42. Matthew Suckling

44. Cameron Stokes

45. Riley Milne

46. Haydn Kiel

47. Luke Breust

Looking forward too seeing Spencer, Zomer and Bail have crack!

Beware the 3 strike policy though!!

Anyone know why Moloney and Buckley were omitted?

Is Moloney being held back due to injuries?

They are essentially the only 2 available players left out of this squad (assuming you exclude first-year draftees and injured players).

If left out for reasons other than injury this seems like a major back-hander to these two.

I'm not worried about either of them, even Moloney. I'd say the slightest niggle and a player will be omitted, it's pre-season so there's no point in risking anything.

Looking forward to seeing Petterd and Grimes in action, hopefully this'll be a break out season for both of them.

If the club is playing to win, then we play the best squad:

B) Whelan Warnock Frawley

HB) Petterd Garland Bell

C) Davey McLean Morton

HF) Sylvia Miller Bate

F) AUssie Newton Green

Foll) Johnson Bruce Jones

Int) Dunn Grimes Bartram

McDonald Bail Valenti Spencer

Emerg - Meeson, Cheney, Zomer, Martin

jnr will start for his first official game as captain!

I'm not worried about either of them, even Moloney. I'd say the slightest niggle and a player will be omitted, it's pre-season so there's no point in risking anything.

While I agree, Beamer and Rivers have missed so much football over recent years that it is disturbing if Beamer is still getting niggles. When over his ankle injury Rivers needs to get back to playing football pronto.

Zomer included?

Looks like I might owe an apology to timd

If the club is playing to win, then we play the best squad:

B) Whelan Warnock Frawley

HB) Petterd Garland Bell

C) Davey McLean Morton

HF) Sylvia Miller Bate

F) AUssie Newton Green

Foll) Johnson Bruce Jones

Int) Dunn Grimes Bartram

McDonald Bail Valenti Spencer

Emerg - Meeson, Cheney, Zomer

This would be the side I would like to see (unlikely I know)

45. Matthew Whelan 34. Stefan Martin 25. Kyle Cheney

16. Jack Grimes 37. Matthew Warnock 18. Brad Green

10. Cale Morton 5. Brock McLean 14. Lynden Dunn

12. Colin Sylvia 7. Brad Miller 36. Aaron Davey

33. Austin Wonaeamirri 35. Trent Zomer 20. Colin Garland

11. Paul Johnson

32. Cameron Bruce

23. James McDonald

42. Jake Spencer 15. Ricky Petterd 2. Nathan Jones 41. Rohan Bail

8. James Frawley 6. Matthew Bate 26. John Meesen 29. Michael Newton

If the club is playing to win, then we play the best squad:

B) Whelan Warnock Frawley

HB) Petterd Garland Bell

C) Davey McLean Morton

HF) Sylvia Miller Bate

F) AUssie Newton Green

Foll) Johnson Bruce Jones

Int) Dunn Grimes Bartram

McDonald Bail Valenti Spencer

Emerg - Meeson, Cheney, Zomer

After his intra club game I am pretty sure Cheney will play and that probably means Bail will miss out. Bailey did say that some of the new draftees would play later on.

As I understand it, Moloney wasn't isn't quite at 100% speed after a delayed start to full preseason, and will be left out long enough to be at his peak strength when he does come in.

Rivers rolled his ankle, it's trivial and in no way related to any previous injury. Not a worry.

Hawthorn may be underdone and a little undermanned (not as much as the hype), but we are still playing the premiership team at what is undoubtedly a 'home' ground for them.

Don't need to look any further back than round 1 last year to know what can happen.

On the other hand, we are certainly in with a shot at this.

I'm very keen to see how the second and third year players go, given that they are the ones who will be mostly deciding the extent of our improvement this year. The new draftees, with the exception of Strauss and Bail, look like they are going to be dealt with gently in 2009 - we are after all building for another golden age, so we'll want them all to be properly conditioned for a ten-year run at the top!

Brent Moloney (the Tank) only played the 1st half of last week's practice match. At the beginning of the 3rd quarter I saw him speaking with Bails behind the stands. I don't know if this was a planned half of football or another injury concern. Regardless, Beamer is not playing this weekend and that worries me.

This is speculation, but Buckley might not be playing due to disciplinary reasons. His fb status today was something about being [censored] off, and rumor has it that him and Jones have been getting into abit of trouble over summer.

Moloney not playing, I hope is precaution. We want him out that for both the drive forward he gives, and his passion and leadership.

Valenti, Meesen and Zomer have been named the 3 emergencies from the initial 29 man squad according to the "Bail gets his chance" article on the Melbourne website.

Valenti, Meesen and Zomer have been named the 3 emergencies from the initial 29 man squad according to the "Bail gets his chance" article on the Melbourne website.

So obviously the theory that players get picked on form has gone out the window.

If we are serious about winning this game, Valenti has to play. And with Robbo's long term injury and Newton showing nothing, it would have been nice to see Zomer in action.

Why play Valenti and Zomer, no disrespect to there form but they can't play round 1 anyway unless someone goes onto the long term injury list. We have to play 2 ruckman and Spencer over Meesen is good but same we cant play Spencer but from what we hear Meesen has been in bad form.

Get game time into guys that will play early in season proper, the other guys can get form through Casey.

I can't really think of many other players that would make the regular season squad. In other words, we're playing our best squad in the first round of the pre-season cup. Says a lot. But still, can't wait to see our young guns this year.

Valenti, Meesen and Zomer have been named the 3 emergencies from the initial 29 man squad according to the "Bail gets his chance" article on the Melbourne website.

Damn Newton, keeping Zomer out of the match.

maybe there is logic behind not playing the 1st year players in rd 1 NAB. If we loose not many clubs will get a look at them in the coming weeks and we might be able to suprise a couple of clubs early season proper. If we win, they can put pressure on the selection table.

maybe there is logic behind not playing the 1st year players in rd 1 NAB. If we loose not many clubs will get a look at them in the coming weeks and we might be able to suprise a couple of clubs early season proper. If we win, they can put pressure on the selection table.

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that doesn't make sense to me