Demons finalise list

[the fork 357]

Wonaeamirri elevated !! (STOKED)

CJ GONE !!, offered two year contract, asked to be delisted. Mildly disappointing when you consider the following:

From afl.com.au:

From rounds 14 to 17 this year, Johnson collected 108 disposals at an average of 27 touches, including a career-best 33 against the Brisbane Lions in round 14 – one of Melbourne's three wins in 2008.

Dean Bailey:

Our preference was to always keep Chris Johnson as a part of the Melbourne Football Club.

To do this we offered Chris a new two year contract, but unfortunately he wanted to play for another, rival AFL club, and subsequently asked to be delisted.

It is really important our members are kept well informed on matters such as these, and we are extremely disappointed with Chris’ decision.

Shane Valenti, Jake Spencer, Trent Zomer : retained on the club's rookie list.

Bring on the draft, as this is the one that will set us on our path. The last couple of years have hurt and I'm expecting a couple more, but perhaps finally we're on our way up.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/tabid/7415/D...px?newsid=69472

[Hannabal 4]

Was never in my best 22. Made butter look hard.

Tata

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Zomer is lucky.

Wona on and Valenti to remain a rookie.....as expected.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Zomer is lucky.

Wona on and Valenti to remain a rookie.....as expected.

Add "surprised CJ is gone" and you've got me covered as well.

[Dee tention 611]

Your a 'Fu..ing' joke Melbourne! Could'nt offer CJ more than 1 year? Pathetic! You let the good one's go and persist with retards. He is in my best 22.

CJ heading to the Blues! That would be great! They will both stick it right up us.

[Dee tention 611]

We have been renamed the "MELBOURNE JOKERS"

Good luck CJ! You are going to kill them.

[LeBron James 41]

So what's happening with Carroll??

[ChaserJ 4,026]

So what's happening with Carroll??

That's what I'd like to know <_<

[e25 5]

We have been renamed the "MELBOURNE JOKERS"

Good luck CJ! You are going to kill them.

Finished your exam have you?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

We have been renamed the "MELBOURNE JOKERS"

Good luck CJ! You are going to kill them.

You'll wet your pants if we actually develop a star in this club

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

So what's happening with Carroll??

The impression I got during the year was that CJ never fitted in Dean Bailey's plans. His career at Melbourne was pretty disappointing and I wish him well wherever he ends up.

His departure leaves us with an additional young player to draft and in this year's deep draft pool, that should give rise to optimism rather than any gnashing of teeth.

[Diablo 1]

The impression I got during the year was that CJ never fitted in Dean Bailey's plans. His career at Melbourne was pretty disappointing and I wish him well wherever he ends up.

His departure leaves us with an additional young player to draft and in this year's deep draft pool, that should give rise to optimism rather than any gnashing of teeth.

So we can use selection 83, or PSD pick 17 now? Not that I'm overly miffed that CJ is departing, but the depth of the draft hardly rationalises it, when we are talking about using an extra pick down the arse end. No draft is that deep.

I guess my point is that, if we do use either of those selections as a result of CJ's departure, we are extremely unlikely to get a player of CJ's ability. Not praise of Johnson, but rather the reality of those late picks.

The only genuine positive from this is that that's another senior-ish wage we won't be paying next year.

[jacey 333]

So we can use selection 83, or PSD pick 17 now? Not that I'm overly miffed that CJ is departing, but the depth of the draft hardly rationalises it, when we are talking about using an extra pick down the arse end. No draft is that deep.

I guess my point is that, if we do use either of those selections as a result of CJ's departure, we are extremely unlikely to get a player of CJ's ability. Not praise of Johnson, but rather the reality of those late picks.

So far its Neitz, Hollland, Yze, White, Bode, Weetra, now CJ. (don't think i'm missing anyone)

7 spots. Aussie lifted. Pick 1,17,19, 35, 51 + PSD1. If CJ wasn't off, it would be no pick 51 or Aussie doesn't get lifted.

[Diablo 1]

So far its Neitz, Hollland, Yze, White, Bode, Weetra, now CJ. (don't think i'm missing anyone)

7 spots. Aussie lifted. Pick 1,17,19, 35, 51 + PSD1. If CJ wasn't off, it would be no pick 51 or Aussie doesn't get lifted.

I thought it was 67 or 83.

I suppose that changes it a bit. Pick 51 is still of debatable value but I accept there is reasonable parity between 51 vs. CJ, and not having to pay his wage.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

His departure leaves us with an additional young player to draft and in this year's deep draft pool, that should give rise to optimism rather than any gnashing of teeth.

Where have you heard that?

I'm under the impression that the top 20 runs deeper than previous years, but after that it begins to dwindle somewhat

[Choko 493]

I really think the club has made a mistake. A guy that uses the ball well off the half back line and reads the play reasonably well. Daniher hated CJ, and DB also didn't like him. Neither coach used him properly and let him develop confidence and momentum. He will never be a star, so in a sense it's no great loss, but he is a better footballer than lesser players on our list, and I think would have provided value if allowed to settle into a position. I know he is the one that asked to be delisted, but I still think that's a result of the way he has been treated. It's a shame.

[jacey 333]

I thought it was 67 or 83.

Even so, the point stands, albeit to a lesser extent.

Pick 51 - CJ.

I'm not really going to lose sleep over it. I personally don't trust CJ the player. If he can get a better deal then a one year deal, good luck to him.

[Mousey 47]

Cheers Chris.

Good luck at Visy.

Not a huge loss, like stated we have made room for 5 of our Draft picks and 1 PSD Pick.

Happy for Wonna!

[e25 5]

The impression I got during the year was that CJ never fitted in Dean Bailey's plans. His career at Melbourne was pretty disappointing and I wish him well wherever he ends up.

I thought the same too. He never seemed to me like the Bailey's type of player. Just a feeling I got.

When Bailey played him for that stretch last year & he got a lot of footy, I couldn't help but feel that Bails the wiley old fox was trying to increase CJ's value in trade week.

Just like, when many thought Bate & Dunn were on the block after being dropped in the last round, I saw it as trying to give them a rocket for pre-season.

Looks like, whether intended or not, it worked for Bate (article from last week) - http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69459

at the same time, this IS just typical preseason propoganda

[Bails 0]

joke

the joints a joke

he will be a real good player

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

Where have you heard that?

I'm under the impression that the top 20 runs deeper than previous years, but after that it begins to dwindle somewhat

My information differs. The depth is supposed to be a lot better than it was last year and there will also be more "recycled" players in the mix as a result of changes in the draft. In the end however, it's better to go with the young blood than with someone that the football department doesn't have enough faith to give more than a year's contract.

[deanox 8,876]

I really think the club has made a mistake. A guy that uses the ball well off the half back line and reads the play reasonably well. Daniher hated CJ, and DB also didn't like him. Neither coach used him properly and let him develop confidence and momentum. He will never be a star, so in a sense it's no great loss, but he is a better footballer than lesser players on our list, and I think would have provided value if allowed to settle into a position. I know he is the one that asked to be delisted, but I still think that's a result of the way he has been treated. It's a shame.

so two coaches didnt like him? one coach who got us to a number of finals series and a grand final, and another that has publicly stated that he will build a side around youth (which included CJ if he stayed). doesn't that indicate to you that maybe there is something else that you aren't seeing? as in, he isnt going to make it?

maybe the change in scenery will do him good. good luck to him with getitng a better contract. if he sets his terms low we might just pick him up again. otherwise, he wasn't worth what he wanted.

[Tony Tea 2,792]

We've got Green and Wheatley to get the cheap kicks at half-back... I mean, do the sweeping.

CJ:

Short

Soft

Slow

Nice kick

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Short? Isn't he about 188cm?

Slow? Wouldn't say he super quick but he doesn't look slow to me

Soft? Probably

[Ewok 9]

He should have kept his spot FFS!