chookrat

There is alot of excitement here about the fine, but does anyone have footage of the incident?

I'd drop T-Mac, he is playing too well, we need to make sure he doesn't get ahead of himself, and it sends a message for he rest of the list that no-one is safe, not even one of the best key forwards in the competition.

Imo, that we haven't played great footy all year, with the exception of the Richmond game, is precisely the reason we should beat Carlton. They need alot to go right, while if we can keep going and make some small improvements then we should comfortably account for them.

In fairness, outside of the Richmond game which we were strong across all lines and phases of the be game I don't think we've really hit our straps. The last couple of weeks we've been smashed in clearance, and in other rounds we've played 2+ quarters of ordinary football with 1 quarter of dominance against middle of the road teams. I think we have a strong enough system, talent and fitness across all lines to jag wins even when we aren't playing great football, which barring significant injuries, should see us win more than we lose for the remaining rounds. This week if we tighten up around the centre bounces you'd think we beat Carlton, but get smashed in this area again and if we struggle in one or more of contested ball, forward 50 entry, or defensive pressure, and if Carlton bring their A game then we will lose.

It is for this reason I don't care about All Australian teams. It should be a team but instead it is about fitting individuals into 22 spots with little consideration of the role of each position. How good would it be if blokes like Charlie Spargo with 6 possessions, but play their role to perfection, made the rolling AA team in a given week because they were the best small forward position player, not because they kick 5 goals or are a star mid that rests forward.

There is a positive in this, we are in a really strong position at 8-0 to play a few more games without Viney and have a bit more depth through guys like James Jordon who are playing very well getting a game. We know what Viney brings in big games snd don't need 22 games from him, we need him fit enough to play and make it through finals. He's the sort of player than can have 6 weeks off, come straight back into a big game and be best on ground.

Jaded, I'm not sure this is the case. Does anyone know whether a player can be suspended for an offence that normally carries a fine if they have a poor prior record? I thought that the fines just get bigger.

If I'm a dunce then why was Fritsch's appeal successful and why will Melbourne accept May's sanction? Good fellow, I suggest you focus less on conspiracy theories and calling people names and more on getting better at predicting outcomes based on logic and reason.

I don't have a issue with this. It was a bump that ended up sliding up Buddy's arm and hit him high, when he had alternatives to smother the ball or tackle, which to me fits the definition of Careless. Fritsch didn't somehow get off, he had no opportunity to dispose of the ball in the 0.2 seconds between taking possession and impact with Powell which ment his brace and push off action was deemed reasonable and therefore accidental rather than careless. I'm fine with all of this.

Super impressive individual and I think will do a great job.

Same day travel is ludicrous for a professional sports organisation. I've travelled alot through my work and nowadays wouldn't even consider travelling on the same day as an important meeting or client engagement. Both the early start and sitting in an aeroplane without fresh air is taxing on the body.

So good, this is awesome news! Now let's get ANB signed beyond 2022 and were set.

Accidental means no case to answer homie, which is what the Tribunal ruled. Case closed.

Goody talks about picking out best team every week and Fritsch was our best player last week and is our best forward. I'm bewildered why we would allow him to sit out a week when he should be playing. We are one of the big boys now, only one of 6 unassisted clubs, are top of the ladder, haven't lost a game all season and we are coming up against a tough opponent in Sydney. It is totally unsurprising that the club is seeking to overturn the 1 week suspension.

Dice, I disagree with players being suspended for playing within the spirit of the game, and accidentally make high contact through an action that is reasonable under the circumstances. I'm all for 1 week suspensions for jumper punches that land high and other such actions but when a player gets suspended for playing the ball and the game in the manner it is meant to be played there needs to be a more nuanced approach that considers whether the players action was reasonable.

I reckon there is a case for the incident to both; 1. Be graded as accidental rather than careless, on the basis that Fritsch had no alternative to making contact with Powell and that the brace and push off was a reasonable action under the circumstances. 2. Downgraded from medium to low impact assuming that the damage was low but potential for harm resulted in medium. Because Powell's action to cannon into Fritsch contributed to the potential for harm and that Fritsch's contribution should be his action and not the sum of his and Powell's action. I genuinely think we have a good chance to have this downgraded on at least one if not both of the above.

Since injuring his foot in 2017, Jack has averaged 15 games per season from 2018-2020. He is an absolute jet and a big game player, if he played 10-15 games a season for the next few years and we manage him so he is available to play finals then he represents great value. Probably one of the biggest games I have seen from any player was Viney v West Coast in 2017, he had 38 disposals and fell a couple of possessions short of the all time contested possession record despite missing the 3rd quarter with a shoulder injury, and came back in the 4th to get us across the line.

Did he have a concussion test? As if that were the case it is a mandatory 20 minutes off ground and nothing was mentioned by commentators. I thoughts he went to the bench, had a spell and got back onto the ground.

He did not do a concussion test and provided there are no adverse findings in the medical report it would likely be low impact.

I think Fritsch has a good case for accidental as he played the ball, had zero alternative but to make contact and the high contact was no more careless than Tom Hawkins clumsy elbow against May. Common sense dictates that Fritsch was playing the ball and did not act unreasonably. I suspect the AFL will avoid the accidental v careless aspect in terms of suspension and grade it as careless, low impact, high contact which is a $1500 fine.

Go away party pooper??

There is no way Fritsch gets rubbed out for the high contact. He had the ball and pushed off the players shoulder/head to change direction. It is a completely different action to a bump when you don't have the ball.

We've come a long way since the days when after an 8 goal loss our percentage went up - Dees ?

Absolutely wrapped for Jesse having a big game today. I'll always remember when he re-signed with us despite the lure to WA and in dealing with his personal challenges. He will always be a Demon and I hope he stays healthy and has a fulfilling AFL career ?

So when do Casey play v North? With the AFL match in Hobart I wouldn't mind getting along to the VFL.