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It seems overly complex, there is also a bike track so risk of the players getting hit by bikes and horsies, or horsies riding bikes. I don't trust horsies.
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I wouldn't be too stressed. I reckon we've been loading and will be cherry ripe for Anzac Eve after the bye.
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I've got alot of time for Leigh Montana and his analysis of teams and how they will match up. If only the networks could find other ex players who are articulate and can provide insights instead of the boof heads they bring in.
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They might get held up shouting at clouds on their way to the meeting
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Good summary Young Blood. For what its worth the rule change re provisions for spoils under rough conduct are working as intended. The Fogarty 1 week suspension and Kossie facing 1 week, or a fine if we can argue low impact shows the change is working as intended. Had this change being made last year then Van Rooyen probably would have faced 2 weeks and Maynard 3 - 5 weeks with the difference being the Impact grading of High v Severe. Finally there is no point comparing the Fogarty incident to Pickett. The whole point of the grading system to grade incidents against the criteria on their own merit and that clubs can then elect to challenge the gradings. While taking into account the 'potential' for injury provides some grey area I think it provides for a more appropriate outcome by factoring in the action when grading an incident.
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The problem with the Maynard incident was that the spoil was carelessly executed and he made no effort to minimise impact to Brayshaw after he had committed the spoil. In comparison Kossie deliberately pulls back from the bump to minimise impact to Soligo. The rule change this year re spoils, following the Maynard and Van Rooyen incidents last year, means that they are covered under rough conduct and players have a duty of care to other players when executing a spoil. I'm a supporter of gradings taking into account potential to cause injury as it weighs not only the outcome but also the action. In this case I think we can successfully argue low impact on both actual and potential injury on account of Kossie's decision to pull back from the bump.
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I read this as not only meaning the actual impact was light but also that Kossie played fairly and did show duty of care, e.g he could have lined me up but consciously decided to pull back from full contact.
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It was graded High Contact, Careless, Medium Impact which = 1 week. Low impact = a fine.
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I reckon we have a good chance of having it downgraded as it looks like Pickett pulls back a bit before impact resulting in pretty light contact. It is clear that the actual impact was low and also argue potential for injury is low due to Pickett pulling back from the bump. That Pickett made the decision to pull back from forceful contact is exactly what the AFL is looking to achieve and thus a low impact grading is available and appropriate.
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I reckon it will be looked at and we might need to argue the case but that it will ultimately be graded as low impact. The action started as a smother and finished with a brace with the shoulder contact being pretty light. We might also argue the other player ran into Kossie and therefore the contact was reasonable.
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Jane, that would not have been an enjoyable 6 months. While all injuries are different it is often the case with back injuries that muscular imbalances and dysfunctional movement patterns become the main issue after the initial acute injury. The physios will make sure that Maysie is keeping his trunk mobile and exercising with a level that is tolerable so that he is ready to play. While I'm sure he will be in pain the players and club medicos understand that pain is just feedback and nothing to worry about. This is a problem I see with general medicine that doctors tell civilians to avoid pain and prescribe pain medication rather than work through it in a sensible manner.
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I'd be surprised if May misses more than three weeks and hopefully he is back for the Brisbane match. He can always wear a guard to help protect the ribs. As for the cracked vertebrae while it sounds serious it might not pact him in any way. I'm not to stressed as we have plenty of depth and will ensure we keep evolving.
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It makes sense that we are above Brisbane, them being an interstate team and us being Victorian and all.
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I don't get the argument that you cannot win the flag if you lose the first 3 matches on the basis that it hasn't happened before. There are 23 games in the season and between 16 and 17 wins gets a top 4 finish and probable home finals. Whats to say a team cannot lose the first 3 games and win 17 of the remaining 20 to finish top 2?
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Like others here have said the environment Watts was drafted into was not professional and the expectations the club put on him were unfair on a young player. This said there are others who succeeded in the same environment and Jack was given every opportunity to do well under Roos and Goodwin. The impression I get from his media appearances is he really lacks confidence in himself as a person which makes it really difficult to thrive in adversity.
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Rather than shortening the matches the AFL could pause play within quarters to show more betting ads to kids. I'm comfortable with an April start and 18 matches when Tassie join. Appreciate this won't happen due to tv rights and revenue but any changes that make the season longer take away from the game.
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I wonder whether Kate Roffey's comment re being more like Collingwood is to do with their memberships increasing due to off field discretions while ours seem to have dropped. I'm not too concerned as the numbers will bounce back if our on field form warrants it.
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Could it be a matter of managing him to be able to play games where during the week its pretty much some skills work and light work on the track. I recall that Nick Reiwaldt barely trained with the main group during season in the second half of his career due to his knee and we probably only need Ben to play half a dozen games with Petty and Fullarton becoming available.
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Love hearing about Melksham's progress. He epitomizes courage and sacrifice. When on holidays in the Sunshine Coast after our finals exit last year my wife was on the beach with our two youngest and they started playing with Jake's kids and my wife got chatting with Jake's partner and they were super nice. On or off the field he is so important to our team and would love for him to hold up the cup in September.
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I think in a round about way Robbo is actually arguing the case for Gus's contract to be paid outside of the cap.
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We could head this off by relocating our Training and Admin facilities to Moggs Creek. In seriousness I cannot see how Geelong would come up with the 2 x early first round picks to satisfy any trade and thats if Clarry wanted to leave Melbourne and go there. I think this sort of rubbish reporting will only intensify depending on how our season progresses.
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The muppets in the Media such as Dermie tend to forget that we've had substantial periods in the past 3 seasons where our forward line has functioned well. Even last year in towards the back end of the season our forward line was working very well with Jake Melksham, JVR, a hobbling Fritta along with Kossie and Trac as our key target at stages. Continuity has been our biggest issue which is the same problem other clubs who pay $$$ for marque key forwards, e.g. Richmond with Lynch, who are always injured and cant string games together.
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It could be as simple as Goody pulling a couple of the forwards to the side and say "Boys, we need you to kick more goals.". I winder if the club has tried this or if they are instead to focussed on creating stoppages on our forward 50.
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Our final round v Sydney last year had similarities to the Geelong 2021 match. I think an objective position of our past 2 years is that we were good enough to win enough games to finish top 4 but had too many banged up players and limped into finals (2022) and injuries to key personnel (2023) which meant we were probably a 1 to 2 goal worse side than if we had Petty or Melksham and a fit Fritta going into finals. Sydney beat us on Thursday night because they are a very good disciplined side and we didn't handle the slippery ball well around stoppage and were able to take our strength away from us and then us it to their advantage. I also wouldn't be surprised if changes to our game style where we move the ball more aggressively take a bit of time to bed in and while we still win the majority of our games that our best form is through the second half of the season.
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Personally I like that we've almost closed up shop re comms and instead simply focusing on our footy. I can guarantee that none of our supporters will remember spelling players names incorrectly, putting up the wrong pictures, not providing updates on practice matches and generally not doing social media if we win ag least 4 of our first 6 matches. Actions speak louder than words.
